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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
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Tue 29 Aug, 2017 01:23 pm
Quote:
Trump Addresses Crowd During Visit With Hurricane Victims: ‘What A Turnout’
TPM

What A Dick.
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MontereyJack
 
  5  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 01:32 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn asks:
Quote:
@Olivier5,
So you think Harvey was due to climate change?

weather is a chaotic system, and climate scientists caution against ascribing individual weather events to climate change. However in general if you pump more energy (in the form of heat in this case) into a system, you're going to get more violent outcomes. If sea level is rising, and it is because of more heat in the system, and your sea level has risen a foot, say, at a coastal city which kind of by definition is near sea level, a n equivalent amount of floodwater on top of that exiisting foot of rise, will go much farther inland. And the science does predict stronger storms. Ironic that Trump a week and a half ago, canceled Obama's regulations which would make rebuilding subject to standards which require it to be built higher because of the danger due to sea level rise. The added cost would have been pretty small, but Trump is just setting up Houston and other coastal cities for much grfeater disasters down the line.
blatham
 
  6  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 01:34 pm
Winner of today's coveted "Yeah, well like we didn't know that already, you piece of ****" award
“We are here to stay, forever.” Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu vows to keep settlements.
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 01:50 pm
We had similar problems in the 1930s but it ended quite well.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Battle-of-Cable-Street-red-plaque.png/220px-Battle-of-Cable-Street-red-plaque.png

No plaques for the fascists.
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MontereyJack
 
  7  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 01:53 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finnb says:
Quote:
We haven't seen the stronger storms predicted by hacks
Strange you should say that with a weeklong storm dumping unprecedented amounts of rain on Houston at the moment.
Uh. Harvey?

AS I said, scientists won't ascribe individual events to climate change. But they do say there are likely to be stronger ones. As Trump says we haven't seen anything like this before. It's certainly suggestive.

And it's COMBUSTION engines.. A COMBUSTIBLE engine would be one that would burn up. Kind of defeats the purpose of an engine.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 01:57 pm
@MontereyJack,
Look up Hurricane Camille
blatham
 
  5  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 01:59 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Anyone who assigns Climate Change to the causation of Harvey doesn't know what the hell they are talking about.
Strawman. The actual question/debate is to what degree global warming contributes to such extreme weather events, thus how we ought to plan for future events such as this one and how we might act to help mitigate such future disasters.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:02 pm
@blatham,
Not at all. Hurricanes (and very strong ones) have been around since before life crawled out of the ocean. There is zero evidence that those that we experience today have been affected by Climate Change.

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MontereyJack
 
  5  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:02 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
What is it about the concept of stronger on average that escapes you?
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:05 pm
@MontereyJack,
The idea that it is true.

Check out last year's Matthew
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:05 pm
Blatham gets it. Finn hasn't a clue.
blatham
 
  3  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:05 pm
From the New Yorker, another good piece on the damage caused by the idiot contingent in "antifa"/anarchist groups.
Quote:
The Antifa demonstrators, unlike the white-supremacist factions that gathered in Virginia, do not represent a tradition of murderous violence in this country; they are not heirs to the most embittered segments of the wrong side of a conflict that ripped the country at its seams during the Civil War, or to groups that orchestrated the lynching of four thousand black people in the decades after that side’s defeat. Nevertheless, there is no escaping the fact that the elements that lashed out in Berkeley were both morally wrong and politically vacuous.
NYer
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MontereyJack
 
  4  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:07 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
You do realize, don't you, Finn, that we have been heating the planet for a century. A storm last year hardly invalidates the climate change argument. Indeed it would reinforce it.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:07 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

Blatham gets it. Finn hasn't a clue.


Oh really? Provide us with evidence that hurricanes have, on average, been stronger than those in the pre-industrial age.

You can't.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:08 pm
@MontereyJack,
You've no idea of what you are talking about, but I guess it sounds good.
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:09 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I do, actually but I see no evidence that you do.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:11 pm
@MontereyJack,
My living for the last 40 years has been potentially impacted by Hurricanes and I have seen no evidence whatsoever that they are getting worse.

If you have such evidence, provide it. It's a simple task.
MontereyJack
 
  4  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:16 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Harvey.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:17 pm
@MontereyJack,
Ignorance
 

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