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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Olivier5
 
  6  
Sun 20 Aug, 2017 12:11 am
@McGentrix,
You misquoted me, changing my words ("anti-racist") by yours ("anti free speech").

So you believe what the US extreme right says, that their free speech is threatened? That's strucks me as naïve. Their free speech is not threatened by the State(s) in any way. What they are REALLY after is the banalization of hate speech. They want to become the new normal, the new mainstream, building upon Trump's election. Hence the attacks on the "mainstream media": their intent is to replace it as the new mainstream. Hence their angry reaction to Bannon's "exile from mainstreet".

Judging from Boston, so far they're failing.
McGentrix
 
  -4  
Sun 20 Aug, 2017 12:31 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

You misquoted me, changing my words ("anti-racist") by yours ("anti free speech").

So you believe what the US extreme right says, that their free speech is threatened? That's strucks me as naïve. Their free speech is not threatened by the State(s) in any way. What they are REALLY after is the banalization of hate speech. They want to become the new normal, the new mainstream, building upon Trump's election. Hence the attacks on the "mainstream media": their intent is to replace it as the new mainstream. Hence their angry reaction to Bannon's "exile from mainstreet".

Judging from Boston, so far they're failing.


So any kind of rally or protest from the right will now be labeled a racist rally full of neo-nazi racists?

Let me know if this will be the new normal.
izzythepush
 
  5  
Sun 20 Aug, 2017 12:39 am
@Olivier5,
That's about par for the course. They know they can't win an honest debate so they lie and misrepresent, and a lot of them even believe the lies they tell themselves.
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Debra Law
 
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Sun 20 Aug, 2017 02:06 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Debra Law wrote:

True progressives want representatives who care about people more than corporate money.

THIS is how we recognize each other.
❤️


I gave you a thumbs up!

But it seems you have followers that thumb down all of your posts no matter what. It will be nice when the thumbs are gone. Smile
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Debra Law
 
  6  
Sun 20 Aug, 2017 02:38 am
Here is a link to the resignation letter given to Trump from the members of the Committee on the Arts and the Humanities:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/898555111252926464/photo/1

The last paragraph encourages the President to resign too.

And Women for Justice pointed out that the first letter of each paragraph spells out "RESIST".

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old europe
 
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Sun 20 Aug, 2017 02:39 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
So any kind of rally or protest from the right will now be labeled a racist rally full of neo-nazi racists?


Invite violent alt-right Trumpists (Kyle Chapman), right-wing conspiracy hate-mongers (Joe Biggs), and islamophobic white male supremacists (Gavin McInnes) as speakers to your rally, get labelled "a neo-Nazi rally."

Life is soooo unfair.

And, for the record: these people were/would have been allowed to speak. Their rights were not violated. Your only complaint here is that other people use their freedom of speech to appropriately label those who openly propagate hatred and violence.

Boo-hoo.
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Olivier5
 
  6  
Sun 20 Aug, 2017 02:45 am
@McGentrix,
These goons are not "protesters". Or what do they protest against?

No, they just want to give a greater voice to their outdated, hateful slogans. To banalize them.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  6  
Sun 20 Aug, 2017 05:54 am
@old europe,
Perhaps McG thinks that the occupants of the World Trade Center have to accept half the responsibility for 9/11, too, on the basis that they got in the way?
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MontereyJack
 
  7  
Sun 20 Aug, 2017 06:57 am
@McGentrix,
Yeah, Olivier, I noticed too that McG changed your post and then tried to pass off his changed version as what you had said, when it wasn't at all what you had said. THAT IS DEEPLY UNETHICAL, McG.
hightor
 
  7  
Sun 20 Aug, 2017 07:03 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:

The paranoia about Trump crushing democracy in America is born in part of the desire of people to demonize their political foes.

No it isn't. It's because of the people he selected to have around him and the things they are doing. Such as Scott Pruitt's behind-the-scenes and largely secret efforts to destroy the agency he was appointed to run.
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It is important to demonize political foes so as to cast those with opposing viewpoints as not simply wrong, but evil, it it is essential to do so in order to elevate your personal status from partisan to paladin, courageous defender of truth, justice and the American Way.

No, it isn't important to "demonize" your political foes. Yes, there are people who succumb to this on all sides but it's done out of laziness and ignorance.
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If Trump ever decided to emulate his supposed idol, Vladimir Putin, then it would take real courage to oppose him at all, let alone as vehemently as happens today.

Bullshit. Trump would fail. He has neither the power, the backing, or the political acumen to do anything of the kind.
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The number of his vocal critics would dramatically shrink from thousands to a relative handful as the Cosplay Resistance Fighters[???] all scurried like cockroaches into the silent shadows to avoid drawing any attention whatsoever from the iron-fisted strongman.

How about dispensing with the purple prose? Actually the number of his vocal critics would expand and his failure would make him even a bigger laughing stock in the USA and in the rest of the world than he is already. Get off the "Resistance" kick. Don't turn everything into a drama.
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In the meantime though the valiant defenders of democracy will vociferously denounce Trump as a budding tyrant and congratulate one another for their fortitude and daring.

You're spending way too much time on the internet. Your description is unrecognizable once you step out into the real world.
Quote:
Even when someone makes a sound but obvious assertion that Trump is not about to impose a dictatorship on America, the wary and struggle weary Resistance Fighters will always answer with something like

No. I already gave you your answer. Get off the internet. You won't find these "Resistance Fighters" once you get offline.
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Charges of members maintaining, for years, a false persona in this relative flyspeck of a forum so that at some fateful moment they can sabotage the good work of the noble paladins here and manipulate public opinion is a perfect example of the fantasy played as something real.

Blah blah blah — I believe you're laboring under a misapprehension concerning these "charges" and are again over-dramatizing for effect. But I wouldn't have guessed that your current role playing the White Knight on this flyspeck of a forum would have such a long run. Time to wipe off the greasepaint and climb back into the sunlight.
Setanta
 
  2  
Sun 20 Aug, 2017 07:09 am
Finny sure does love his melodrama, there's no doubt about that.
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hightor
 
  7  
Sun 20 Aug, 2017 07:11 am
The Failing Trump Presidency

Quote:
With each day, President Trump offers fresh proof that he is failing the office that Americans entrusted to him. The rolling disaster of his presidency accelerated downhill last week with a news conference on Tuesday at which he seemed determined to sow racial strife in a nation desperate for a unifying vision.

Since the 1930s it has not typically been a challenge for an American leader to denounce Nazism. But there is nothing typical about this president; urged by some of his advisers and family members to summon the majesty and moral authority of the presidency to heal the wounds of last weekend’s neo-Nazi violence in Charlottesville, to put the good of the country before personal pique, he chose instead to deliver a defense of white supremacists that raised as never before profound doubts about his moral compass, his grasp of the obligations of his office and his fitness to occupy it.

(...)

NYT
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emmett grogan
 
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Sun 20 Aug, 2017 08:31 am
Alt-Righty expressing his right of free speech:

https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5994c2532700003100d4f62e.jpeg?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale
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reasoning logic
 
  1  
Sun 20 Aug, 2017 09:40 am
@cameronleon,
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We must monitor the craziness of liberals, who from drug addict actors, corrupt politicians, social resent dudes who travel all around the US to stop the right of free speech from others, are causing division in America.


Are you a Liberal?
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farmerman
 
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Sun 20 Aug, 2017 09:41 am
@cameronleon,
Its obvious that you are blind to the dangerous incompetence that this "president" possesses .

What baically has Trump done so far besies tear up the Constitution and divide the nation even farther.



hightor
 
  4  
Sun 20 Aug, 2017 10:48 am
@cameronleon,

Quote:
Remember, because you can't deny this fact, remember that Obama promised several times to decrease unemployment...

And the employment rates increased steadily following the great recession.
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... and year after year he only looked for giving more benefits to homosexuals than moving the economy to create more jobs.

So non-discrimination based on sexual preference and the right to marry are "benefits"? What specifically about "liberty and justice for all" do you fail to comprehend?

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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sun 20 Aug, 2017 12:04 pm
@emmett grogan,
What does one photo prove emmett? We could spend the next 2 days trading posts containing photos of left-wingers and right-wingers screaming at people.
Real Music
 
  4  
Sun 20 Aug, 2017 12:40 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
So any kind of rally or protest from the right will now be labeled a racist rally full of neo-nazi racists?
If the crowd is chanting racist chants, yes.
If the crowd is displaying racist symbols, yes.
If the crowd is defending a racist cause, yes.
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