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emmett grogan
 
  3  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 09:01 am
@maporsche,
I certainly hope you didn't put much thought into what seems like typical posting from a Russian troll!
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Lash
 
  -1  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 09:05 am
@izzythepush,
Democrats have no answers for criticism from their left, so they pretend I'm a Republican.

They've lost big, they're as corrupt as the disgusting pigs that run their neoconservative Corporate DINO party--and if I was a Republican right now, I'd be thrilled as hell instead of mad as hell.
Lash
 
  0  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 09:06 am
Wait.

(Gets out pen to take notes)

She's Russian now.
georgeob1
 
  -2  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 09:07 am
@old europe,
And all this time I assumed you were from Europe! Now I conclude you are a Texan. True?

It's true I'm a "coastal" Republican: worse still, from California (and none of us are among the elites out here).

I'm as tolerant of the folks in Texas as I am of those in Connecticut. Perhaps you should consider moving.
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izzythepush
 
  5  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 09:08 am
@Lash,
I'm not a Democrat, I'm not even an American. Life long Labour voting Socialist. I know bullshit though.

The only people who believe your 'volte face' are those who want to. Most people aren't fooled.
Lash
 
  -2  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 09:32 am
@izzythepush,
I've always been under the impression that you are British and operate somewhere in socialist strata. The bulk of people who claim I'm Republican are American Corporate Democrats, although I did hit your post to respond.

I have tried to follow the logic of my secret Republicanism. If my secret goal was to pull Democrats away from Clinton to get Trump elected, wouldn't I have thrown the most insufferable crow party with nanny-nanny-boo-boos, declaring victory incessantly across the forum?

Would I be the first member here to predict his impeachment?

Anyway, I used to think some people here might actually believe the crazy conspiracy theory that I'm a devious Republican operative with Russian tendencies.

LOL. It's just more Clintonesque deflection of facts they can't face. There's a DSM4 diagnosis for that, but my services aren't free. Smile

izzythepush
 
  5  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 09:35 am
@Lash,
http://theponyandtrap.co.uk/assets/images/p+t-footer-image.png
Baldimo
 
  -3  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 10:03 am
@old europe,
How much BS can you say about the gun laws in your state! You are lying through your teeth and you know it. Minor can purchase a gun? No background checks? Why do you anti-gun lefties feel the need to lie about gun laws all the time?
blatham
 
  8  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 10:08 am
A flagrant example of what is happening in nearly every state controlled by Republicans.
Quote:
Republicans limiting early voting in Marion County, letting it bloom in suburbs

State and local Republicans have expanded early voting in GOP-dominated areas and restricted it in Democratic areas, an IndyStar investigation has found, prompting a significant change in Central Indiana voting patterns.

From 2008 to 2016, GOP officials expanded early voting stations in Republican dominated Hamilton County, IndyStar's analysis found, and decreased them in the state's biggest Democratic hotbed, Marion County.

That made voting more convenient in GOP areas for people with transportation issues or busy schedules. And the results were immediate.

Most telling, Hamilton County saw a 63 percent increase in absentee voting from 2008 to 2016, while Marion County saw a 26 percent decline. Absentee ballots are used at early voting stations.
IndyStar
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emmett grogan
 
  4  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 10:31 am
@izzythepush,
Stereotypical Socialists!
maporsche
 
  6  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 10:33 am
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

How much BS can you say about the gun laws in your state! You are lying through your teeth and you know it. Minor can purchase a gun? No background checks? Why do you anti-gun lefties feel the need to lie about gun laws all the time?


There are a TON of states that don't require a background check when buying a gun from a private party and you know it. You don't even need to check the person buying a gun's ID, much less have the resources to confirm whether or not it's a fake ID and the buyer is underage.

If those are the only two pieces items in that list you have any issue with then your argument is in a bad spot.



And if you think people are faking IDs in order to VOTE, then you have no logical grounds to think that people wouldn't fake an ID to buy a gun (not that it's even required for PP sales).
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emmett grogan
 
  4  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 10:39 am
@Baldimo,
Quote:
How much BS can you say about the gun laws in your state! You are lying through your teeth and you know it.


You're ignorant about gun laws and owe someone a huge apology:



Minimum Age to Purchase & Possess in Arizona
Last updated September 30, 2016.

Arizona prohibits any person from selling or giving a firearm or ammunition or a toy pistol from which dangerous and explosive substances may be discharged to a person under age 18 without written consent of the minor’s parent or legal guardian.1

Arizona law prohibits an unemancipated person under age 18 from knowingly carrying or possessing a firearm on his person, within his immediate control, or in or on a means of transportation, in any place that is open to the public or on any street or highway or on any private property (except private property owned or leased by the minor or the minor’s parent, grandparent or guardian). This prohibition does not apply if the minor is accompanied by a parent, grandparent, or guardian, or a certified hunter safety instructor or certified firearms safety instructor acting with the consent of the unemancipated person’s parent or guardian.2

This prohibition also does not apply to a person who is 14 to 17 years of age and who is:

Engaged in lawful hunting or shooting events or marksmanship practice at an established range or other area where the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited;
Engaged in lawful transportation of an unloaded firearm for the purpose of lawful hunting;
Engaged in lawful transportation of an unloaded firearm between the hours of 5:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. for the purpose of shooting events or marksmanship at an established range or other area where the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited; or
Engaged in an activity requiring the use of a firearm that is related to the production of crops, livestock, poultry, livestock products, poultry products, or ratites or in the production or storage of agricultural commodities.3

Arizona places no additional restrictions on the purchase or possession of handguns, although federal age restrictions still apply.

See our Minimum Age to Purchase & Possess Policy Summary for a comprehensive discussion of this issue.

http://smartgunlaws.org/category/state-minimum-age-purchase-possess-guns/

Only had to read to the second state to find the first. And in most states I can buy a firearm at 18 but can't by a drink until I'm 21.

If you read farther you'll find more states that explicitly allow 16 or over to buy firearms.

Hint:



Minimum Age to Purchase & Possess in Colorado
Last updated September 30, 2016.

In Colorado, any person under age 18 may not knowingly possess a handgun, except:

When in attendance at a hunter’s or firearms safety course;
During lawful firearm or target shooting;
During certain organized competitions or performances;
When hunting or trapping with a valid state license;
When traveling to or from such activities as previously noted;
When on property under the control of the person’s parent, legal guardian or grandparent with the permission of such person’s parent, legal guardian or grandparent; or
When at the person’s residence, with the permission of the person’s parent or legal guardian, for the purpose of lawful self-defense.1

Colorado does not provide a minimum age to possess rifles or shotguns. Colorado also provides no minimum age for the purchase of a handgun or a long gun, although federal age restrictions still apply.

For additional age-related restrictions, see the Colorado Child Access Prevention section.

See our Minimum Age to Purchase & Possess Firearms policy summary for a comprehensive discussion of this issue.

Your turn!! You get to find the next one!!! And if I go to a gun show or buy privately I don't even beed a background check!!! As if a background check for a minor would be tough!!!!!!
glitterbag
 
  4  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 10:51 am
@georgeob1,
I'm amused by your bemusement. I'm also entertained by how often you repeat 'projection' or 'doth protest too much'.

Now, I have some things to attend to and will be busy. If you insist on attempting to insult me, you might have to wait for a response.....if I'm even inclined to respond........Anyhow, heading back to the Outer Banks, and I'm afraid I won't have any time for you (but not because you aren't utterly fascinating) It's beach time folks, our dog 'Ruby the Vizsla' is going to teach our son's new pup 'CoCo' how to surf. Grandchildren, grand dogs, family and the Ocean.....it's my idea of heaven.

Baldimo
 
  -3  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 10:54 am
@emmett grogan,
I don't see anything in here that states minors can purchase a gun, it says they have to have an adult with them unless they emancipated, which is the exception and not the rule. Try again. You have to be 18 or older to purchase a rifle and 21 or older to purchase a handgun.

Do you really want to conflate possession vs buying a gun? Minors can not purchase firearms.

Now if you want to debate private sales vs public sales we can do that, but private sales make up a minority of sales in the firearms world. Please don't try and push the false "40% of sales take place without a background check" BS either, that has been torn a part already.
georgeob1
 
  0  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 10:56 am
@glitterbag,
Enjoy it !
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emmett grogan
 
  5  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 10:58 am
@Baldimo,

""Colorado does not provide a minimum age to possess rifles or shotguns. Colorado also provides no minimum age for the purchase of a handgun or a long gun, although federal age restrictions still apply.

Though I did get AZ wrong.



izzythepush
 
  3  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 11:26 am
@emmett grogan,
I knit my own yoghurt.
Baldimo
 
  0  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 11:28 am
@emmett grogan,
Quote:
Colorado also provides no minimum age for the purchase of a handgun or a long gun, although federal age restrictions still apply.

So this means that someone who is 16 can go and buy a gun as OE suggested?
emmett grogan
 
  5  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 11:31 am
@izzythepush,
We are all the authors of our own hurt, yog or otherwise.
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emmett grogan
 
  2  
Thu 10 Aug, 2017 11:33 am
@Baldimo,
In Colorado. I'm not surveying the rest of the nation for you.
 

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