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layman
 
  -3  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 09:53 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
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I built a truly great company worth many billions of dollars. That is a big part of the reason I was elected. As President, I can make far better deals with foreign countries than Congress.

Yeah, Trump would make them filthy Ruskies pay billions to get the sanctions lifted, and he would only take a 25% commisson for doing it. Congress should just leave him be.
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blatham
 
  5  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 10:00 pm
Brian Beutler argues, very reasonably, that Congress should NOT write/pass tax legislation without first demanding that Trump release his tax returns. Here's a key piece of that argument:
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Trump never deserved the benefit of the doubt over his ludicrous audit excuse, but he unintentionally removed all doubt when he told The New York Times last month that he would consider his finances off limits to the Justice Department investigators working with Robert Mueller, the special counsel leading the Russia investigation.

That redline is flatly incompatible with the idea that, were he not under audit, he’d disclose his tax returns to the general public, allowing Mueller to access them at will.

So—surprise!—Trump lied.
NR
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 10:08 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:
After that grandstanding, I expect Acosta to once again be kicked out of all WH briefings.
Next will be the whole damn crew he works for, CNN, the Candyass News Network.

I haven't seen the event you guys are talking about (nor am I really interested in seeing it), but I have the gist of it from your posts about it.

If the CNN goon was as disruptive as described, I hope they do get kicked out of the briefing room.
glitterbag
 
  4  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 10:10 pm
@blatham,
Do you think it's possible that the Trump supporters believe the Russians aren't interfering in the Crimea and Ukraine? I honestly don't fathom the lack of concern by some of my fellow citizens. Some of them are feeling warm and fuzzy about the ridiculous performance by that lightweight Miller attempting to appear horrified that the Press would ask hard questions. Millers snappy retort at one point that the "Give me your...etc" was added later as if that mattered. Well printing "In God we trust" on the god damned money and the addition of "under God" into our pledge of allegiance was as recent as 1954. (I don't know when it became important to praise God on the money) This is pointless, intellectually dishonest and panders to the weak-minded.

We can do better than be fortified when the son of a Cuban immigant (1962) who fled Cuba's oppressive authoritarian rule, was fortunate enough to be raised here only to become a cheerleader for authoritarian practices and unlimited power for the president. It's embarrassing.

glitterbag
 
  3  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 10:15 pm
@layman,
membership fees raised from $100,000 to $200,000 per year. Trump is cleaning up, and he keeps his overhead down by hiring Eastern Europeans with temporary Visa to work at his Margofriggingalow Cha Ching joint for below minimum wage.
layman
 
  -2  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 10:22 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

membership fees raised from $100,000 to $200,000 per year. Trump is cleaning up, and he keeps his overhead down by hiring Eastern Europeans with temporary Visa to work at his Margofriggingalow Cha Ching joint for below minimum wage.


Pollocks support him, he supports them. It's a fair deal. He aint keepin no son of a super-wealthy West Palm family from getting a dish-washing job, or nuthin.
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Real Music
 
  6  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 10:31 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/tillerson-rejects-80-million-to-fight-russian-and-isis-propaganda-and-his-reasons-are-alarming/

Tillerson rejects $80 million to fight Russian and ISIS propaganda — and his reasons are alarming
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Secretary of State Rex Tillerson made the highly unusual decision to turn down money for his department — $80 million to fight terrorist propaganda and Russian disinformation — because he’s afraid of angering Vladimir Putin.

The money is earmarked for the State Department, but Tillerson hasn’t submitted a request for the funds, reported Politico.

The funds are intended for the Global Engagement Center, which is responsible for coordinating government efforts to counter online terrorist activity and, since December, state-sponsored disinformation campaigns.

President Barack Obama expanded the unit’s mission at the end of his term after intelligence agencies concluded Russia had flooded social media with fake news and phony Twitter accounts to influence the 2016 elections, and lawmakers from both parties want a stronger U.S. response.

President Donald Trump wants to cut State Department funding, so Tillerson is trying to spend less of it — not more.

“They use the reorganization as an excuse to not act on anything,” one former State official told Politico. “That’s why people doubt the motivations of the reorganization. They think it’s all about starving the beast.”

But a former senior State Department official told Politico that Tillerson aide R.C. Hammond suggested the secretary of state doesn’t want to fully fund the unit for fear of angering Putin.

Tillerson, the former CEO of ExxonMobil, was awarded the Russian Order of Friendship from Putin after signing deals with the state-owned Russian oil company Rosneft.


Hammond, who serves as Tillerson’s spokesman and on the department’s policy planning staff, has said the unit hadn’t explained how $60 million, which will expire next month, of the earmarked funds would be spent, but the former State Department official denied that was the case.

“Hammond said the secretary is in the process of working through disagreements with Russia, and this is not consistent with what we’re trying to do,” the former senior State official told Politico.

The Kremlin-backed news site Sputnik compares the Global Engagement Center to the Ministry of Truth from George Orwell’s 1984, and Hammond told Politico the secretary of state did not want to upset Russia while trying to find common ground on Syria and other matters.

“Regarding Russia, we have not sought to reduce efforts to spotlight and combat Moscow’s ‘active measures’ or information activities,” Hammond told the website.

layman
 
  -1  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 10:34 pm
@oralloy,
A little humor, eh?:

blatham
 
  5  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 10:39 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
Do you think it's possible that the Trump supporters believe the Russians aren't interfering in the Crimea and Ukraine? I honestly don't fathom the lack of concern by some of my fellow citizens.
Let's start with Vox
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The evidence that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election has only grown since Donald Trump took office. Yet a whopping 72 percent of Trump voters believe the whole story is “fake news.” A mere 14 percent believe there’s anything to the Russia story.

That's a subject which has gained far more media coverage than what you're wondering about. So, without doubt, far fewer Trump supporters will have any opinion (and certainly far less actual knowledge) about it. Because it would fall in the "Is Russia good or bad?" category and because right wing media has been so intent on defending Trump re Russia, the likely response from most supporters would be, "fake news!".

It's not that Trump supporters aren't "concerned". They have just been very effectively trained to be concerned about the wrong things.
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Real Music
 
  2  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 10:46 pm
Lawrence: Why Is Donald Trump So Afraid Of Vladimir Putin? | The Last Word | MSNBC

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blatham
 
  3  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 10:49 pm
@Real Music,
Tillerson isn't stupid in the manner of Trump. He stays quite secretive and fabian because that has always been his mode of operation at Exxon. This doesn't mean he's more ethical or honest, just more adept at moving with stealth.

One part of this big story of Russia/Trump administration which hopefully we'll one day come to see revealed is how the economics of big oil money is directing events we see now. Remember that it wasn't until 2007 that Alan Greenspan admitted in his memoir,
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'I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil'.
glitterbag
 
  3  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 10:55 pm
@blatham,
Maybe that's it, clarity is painful.
Real Music
 
  2  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 10:57 pm
@blatham,
Tillerson appears to best friends forever with Vladimir Putin.
blatham
 
  2  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 11:01 pm
@glitterbag,
As the Greeks understood, self-knowledge is very often bad news.
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blatham
 
  2  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 11:03 pm
@Real Music,
Quote:
Tillerson appears to best friends forever with Vladimir Putin.
Well, yes. To be more accurate, the Exxon CEO was best friends with Putin's regime.
glitterbag
 
  2  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 11:32 pm
@blatham,
Trump thinks his Military advisors are useless.......he thinks he can get better advice from rank and file. Sure, why not. I guess he can consult with active duty folks the next time he visits the troops in Iraq or Afghanistan. They will love to hear about his Inauguration Day record breaking crowds, the Boy Scouts President thanking him for the best speech ever in history but he should probably not mention that the Girl Scout have been granted a restraining order that requires Trump to stay 300 yards away from any Girl Scout gathering. (Apologies to Borowitz, I couldn't resist) ☘️
Real Music
 
  4  
Wed 2 Aug, 2017 11:53 pm
Trump Says He Doesn’t Want Poor People Working In His Cabinet - The Ring Of Fire

Published on Jun 22, 2017
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 3 Aug, 2017 01:10 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

Trump thinks his Military advisors are useless


Apart from the generals in his cabinet doing civilian jobs. There's a theme, you have to be as unsuited for your job as he is for president.
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Thu 3 Aug, 2017 01:14 am
@ossobucotemp,
ossobucotemp wrote:

Mango Mussolini


Although Mussolini didn't spend most of his time licking Stalin's arse.
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Thu 3 Aug, 2017 02:29 am
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Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has said new sanctions imposed by the US are tantamount to declaring a "full-scale trade war" against Moscow.
He said the measures, signed by Donald Trump, demonstrated the complete impotence of the US president, who he said had been humiliated by Congress.
The law aims to punish Russia for its alleged meddling in the 2016 US elections and its actions in Ukraine.
Mr Trump accused Congress of overreach on the legislation.
In signing the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act on Wednesday, he attached a statement calling the measure "deeply flawed".
The legislation limits the amount of money Americans can invest in Russian energy projects, and makes it more difficult for US companies to do business with Russia.
Mr Medvedev also warned that new steps would follow aimed at removing President Trump - whom he described as a "non-systemic player" - from power.
Moscow - which denies interfering in the US presidential election - had already retaliated last week when Congress passed the bill by ordering the US to cut to 455 the number of staff at the US embassy and consulates in Russia - a reduction of 755 people altogether - and also by denying access to a US country house and a warehouse in Moscow.
It also imposes sanctions on Iran and North Korea.
Iran said the new sanctions violated the nuclear deal and it would respond in an "appropriate and proportional" manner, reports the semi-official Isna news agency.
North Korea has so far made no public comments on the US move.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40809715
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