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maporsche
 
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Sat 29 Jul, 2017 09:06 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

What about you?


What about you?
Lash
 
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Sat 29 Jul, 2017 09:27 am
@maporsche,
I'm not sure.

When I first heard about "the ban," my initial feeling was it was just a negative swipe by Trump against trans people--possibly a maneuver to distract from...any number of crazy items going on in the White House--Maybe to appeal to his base after a couple of severe losses recently.

Then, I thought (and tried to find stats) about the cost and other impacts of people signing on for this purpose.

I do see total viagra costs compared to reassignment and have thought about people who sign on for the GI Bill. But, that's not as cut and dried as people try to make it look. https://www.google.com/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/40741785

So, asking what other people think.

My opinion closely mirrored yours. I thought knowing you were going to be out of commission due to the major surgery might be prohibitive for people in active duty, but still in the information gathering process.

Seems to be a very unpopular question. LOL
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farmerman
 
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Sat 29 Jul, 2017 09:48 am
@oralloy,
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certainly a comfort, but they are hardly 100% reliable in stopping enemy missiles.
were it anyon besides N Korea Id agree with you. However, the most appliances they could deploy would be fairly easily targeted or "redeployed"
Lash
 
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Sat 29 Jul, 2017 09:49 am
I think what makes this really seem bigoted is no mention of where the person is in their transition.

What problem could anyone point to with service personnel who'd completed transitioning?

maporsche
 
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Sat 29 Jul, 2017 09:51 am
@Lash,
Many trans individuals have no intention of transitioning either.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sat 29 Jul, 2017 10:41 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Well we'll just have to agree to disagree. Casting aspersions on any aspect of the service of a man who endured any time in the Hanoi Hilton is to me "vicious."

I attack McCain's service worse than Trump ever did.

I'll happily agree to the accusation that I am vicious in doing so.

But in my defense I'll assert that my viciousness is entirely justified. McCain is appalling and deserves to be viciously attacked.


The you and I will also have to agree to disagree. This is not a matter of which either of us will be able to persuade the other that they are wrong.
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izzythepush
 
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Sat 29 Jul, 2017 10:44 am
The real reason Trump decided to pick on trans people was to deflect public attention away from the investigation into his collusion with Russia to undermine the American presidential election.

Expect more mudslinging as Robert Mueller gets closer to the truth.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sat 29 Jul, 2017 11:02 am
@layman,
Reince is a good man and like Spicer should be allowed to salvage their pride through resigning, rather than being fired.

I think though that while Priebus chose an offer to resign or be fired, Spicer's was more of a reaction Scaramucci's appointment and what it said about his likely future.

It is interesting that Trump didn't engage in a prolonged series of torture sessions with Priebus as he is now engaged in with Sessions.

Priebus is definitely an Establishment guy, but one that was either smart enough or amoral enough (depending on your point of view) to quickly size up the likely winner of the GOP horse race and get behind him. I can argue as well that this was simply him doing his job as Party chairman.

He may have been hamstrung by Trump but it doesn't appear he was well suited to the Chief of Staff job.He won't be missed.

I don't really consider Spicer an Establishment guy, just someone who didn't do his job as well as he might have.

If removing Establishment figures from the inner-circle is what's going on here then the job isn't done. Ivanka and her husband have Establishment ties and sentiments and, apparently, strong influence.

It also doesn't necessarily mean that he intends to take on the Establishment even more and move ahead with draining the swamp. I hope it does, but am taking a wait and see attitude.

I think Kelly is a great pick, not only because of his experience and talents but because Trump seems to have a level of respect for generals that he doesn't evidence with others. Maybe he thinks they'll reflexively do what ever he orders. Who knows?

The sooner the Purge is completed the better. It's a routine event for every new Administration and in of itself isn't a big deal. If it become a regular 6 month event though, it won't be good, but that remains to be seen.
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jcboy
 
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Sat 29 Jul, 2017 11:23 am
It just goes to show. Trump supporters are racist. If they don't think so, they're lying to themselves.

And the other shoe drops like a hammer in 5, 4, 3, 2...

The Police Department Cheering On Trump’s Call for Excessive Force Is Already Under Federal Oversight for Discrimination

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President Donald Trump gave a speech at a Long Island community college on Friday during which he encouraged the use of violence. Turns out the audience was comprised of officers in a police department that has been scrutinized for racial profiling, and whose former chief was recently sentenced to prison for beating a man.

The Suffolk County Police Department (SCPD) has been under federal oversight by the US Department of Justice since 2013, following a two-year investigation into allegations of discrimination against Latinos and immigrants. Nearly 20 percent of the county’s 1.5 million residents are Latino.

During his speech, Trump encouraged officers not to be “too nice” to suspects or take measures to protect them from harm. The speech was supposed to address federal efforts to combat MS-13, the violent street gang with ties to Central America.

After the speech, the SCPD posted on Twitter that it does “not tolerate roughing up of prisoners.”


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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sat 29 Jul, 2017 11:27 am
@layman,
I fail to see how anything about the marital status of the Mooch is more than tabloid fare.

If BJs in the Oval Office were not a big deal why is this being given any coverage at all? There doesn't even seem to be any salacious details about extramarital sexual escapades.

It's only "news" because the reports can throw in that she despises Trump. The insinuation is that the Mooch is such an ambitious POS that he's willing to ruin his marriage to go serve the monster.

She hates Trump? BFD! If that's all their split is about, the marriage wasn't made in heaven to begin with and it probably was on its last leg anyway.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sat 29 Jul, 2017 11:46 am
@blatham,
It is pretty pathetic, but if the House passes something and it's killed by the Senate, clearly the Senate is responsible for that one defeat.
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