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roger
 
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Wed 19 Jul, 2017 11:49 pm
@layman,

layman wrote:

Trump didn't "warn" anybody. And he wasn't talking about "federal investigators." He was talking about the limited role of Mueller.


He isn't a federal investigator? Who's paying him?
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roger
 
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Thu 20 Jul, 2017 12:19 am
@layman,
So he's not a federal investigator.

That's all you had to say. Sheesh
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 20 Jul, 2017 01:02 am
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US President Donald Trump's eldest son, son-in-law and ex-campaign manager are to testify before the Senate on alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
Donald Trump Jr, Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort will be questioned about their links to Russian officials.
One key subject will be their meeting with a Russian lawyer last year.
Meanwhile, the president said he would not have named Jeff Sessions as attorney general if had he known he would recuse himself from the inquiry.
The president has also spoken about an until recently undisclosed conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin at a G20 dinner, saying it was mostly "pleasantries".


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40664779
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 20 Jul, 2017 01:17 am
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Thirty-two million Americans would lose health coverage under a Republican plan to repeal Obamacare, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has forecast.
The non-partisan office's analysis found the cost of a medical insurance policy would increase 25% next year and double by 2026.
The repeal bill would also cut the federal deficit by $473bn (£363bn), predicted the CBO.
The Republican-controlled Senate has twice failed to pass a healthcare bill.
Its members plan to vote next week on a plan to repeal President Barack Obama's 2010 health law with a two-year delay.
But the CBO estimates the number of uninsured would rise by 17 million next year alone if the Affordable Care Act, known as Obamacare, were to be overturned.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40662772<br /> <br />
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layman
 
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Thu 20 Jul, 2017 01:56 am
@izzythepush,
Here's what the CBO, as inaccurate as it is,, actually says, not what the candyass BBC says it says:

Quote:
CBO and JCT estimate that, in 2018, 14 million more people would be uninsured under H.R. 1628 than under current law. The increase in the number of uninsured people relative to the number projected under current law would reach 19 million in 2020 and 23 million in 2026.

Although premiums have been rising under current law, most subsidized enrollees purchasing health insurance coverage in the nongroup market are largely insulated from increases in premiums because their out-of-pocket payments for premiums are based on a percentage of their income; the government pays the difference between that percentage and the premiums for a reference plan.

Nevertheless, some areas of the country have limited participation by insurers in the nongroup market under current law.

... changes made by the legislation are all difficult to predict, so the estimates discussed in this document are uncertain.


https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52752

The poor don't give a **** about how much health care, or insurance for it, costs. It could cost the government $1 million a second for them to visit a doctor and it wouldn't matter to them. They aint payin. It's the young, healthy employed people who pay for their indigent, no-workin asses, not them.

Problem is those young people aint chumps. If they're getting charged 10-20 times what actuarial tables say they should be, they just don't buy the crap. There goes the "subsidy," eh?
revelette1
 
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Thu 20 Jul, 2017 07:46 am
Young healthy people will not always be young and healthy, moreover, they could have an accident affecting their health and/or get a medical condition which would require regular sustained medical care and treatment. Medical bill and treatment quickly add up in hurry. It is like no one really wants to pay for full coverage for car insurance until there is an accident then you are glad you have insurance to pay for any medical cost and/or car replacement not to mention the other side if you at fault. And unlike car insurance under the current health care law, your premiums don't go up because you get sick or have a pre-existing condition. Conservative republicans want to change that.

Personally I wish we could fix what is wrong with our current health insurance and work on getting "Medicaid for all" or universal health care.

Instead the WH is wanting to put forth Curz's plan:

Quote:
Path Forward?

Republicans are scrambling to come up with a way forward on their seven-year-old promise to repeal the Affordable Care Act. McConnell has so far failed to unify his caucus and bring a bill to a vote after moderates and conservatives defected over conflicting objections to the plans. On Wednesday, the White House touted a plan from Texas Senator Ted Cruz that would allow limited, cheaper insurance plans.

Cruz’s plan is part of prior measure, the Better Care Reconciliation Act, that didn’t attract enough votes to start debate after two other conservative senators defected from the effort on Monday night. On Wednesday, President Donald Trump called lawmakers to the White House to try and find a way forward with that bill or another.

The repeal-only proposal would have grave effects on the market for individual insurance where many in Obamacare currently get their plans. CBO estimated that the repeal would result in about half of the population living in areas where no insurer would offer plans in the nongroup market by 2020, a number that increases to about three-fourths of Americans by 2026.

Effect on Premiums

It would also raise the costs for people to buy insurance, by about 25 percent in 2018 and more afterwards. The bill eliminates a requirement that all Americans carry insurance, which would mean that those who ended up buying health coverage would be sicker, causing insurers to charge more to make up for their costs. After 2020, “enrollment would continue to drop and premiums would continue to increase in each subsequent year,” the CBO said.

The proposal would reduce the federal deficit by $473 billion over 10 years, according to the CBO, compared to $321 billion under the Better Care Reconciliation Act. The savings in both plans come from rolling back Obamacare’s expansion of the Medicaid program for the poor and ending or limiting subsidies to help people purchase insurance.


Bloomberg
Lash
 
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Thu 20 Jul, 2017 08:00 am
What's wrong is easy. Our elected officials know that a national gig is worth millions in bribe money, and they vociferously do the bidding of pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies.

Period.

As long as we allow it, it will continue.

Should have voted for the one who vowed to tear that down.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 20 Jul, 2017 08:01 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
The poor don't give a **** about how much health care, or insurance for it, costs. It could cost the government $1 million a second for them to visit a doctor and it wouldn't matter to them. They aint payin. It's the young, healthy employed people who pay for their indigent, no-workin asses, not them.

Problem is those young people aint chumps. If they're getting charged 10-20 times what actuarial tables say they should be, they just don't buy the crap. There goes the "subsidy," eh?
This again proves that many have the faintest idea how health insurance works (elsewhere): solidarity as opposed to a system of contributions.
But those Christian attitudes have no room in some capitalistic and right-wing thoughts.
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revelette1
 
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Thu 20 Jul, 2017 08:50 am
Senate Judiciary Committee approves FBI director nomination (AP)
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revelette1
 
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Thu 20 Jul, 2017 09:05 am
The following is way too long and difficult to know what to cut and paste, so I'll leave a link. I found the whole piece very interesting as to just what was going on at the time and responses.

Inside the Secret Plan to Stop Vladimir Putin's US election Plot (TIME)
Baldimo
 
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Thu 20 Jul, 2017 09:26 am
@snood,
Quote:
Every time he has been asked in different venues by different people over the months since the election, Bernie Sanders has said that although he knows the leadership of the DNC favored Hillary, he believes that Hillary won the nomination fair and square. That "what happened to Bernie" trope is BS kept alive mainly by the right.

Of course he is going to say that, he now has a 3rd house and this one is on a lake and even has it's own beach. He keeps the party line going and he gets to keep the house. Bernie is just as crooked as the people he claims to be against, he was bought and paid for just like the rest of them.
Olivier5
 
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Thu 20 Jul, 2017 09:36 am
@revelette1,
WOW... The US is screwed.
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Olivier5
 
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Thu 20 Jul, 2017 09:43 am
@revelette1,
http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAouzAu.img
camlok
 
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Thu 20 Jul, 2017 09:49 am
@Baldimo,
And you gullible idiots believe the government of the people bullshit screwy ole Abe fed you.
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