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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
giujohn
 
  -2  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 07:18 am
@blatham,
Tell it to the families of the over 3,000 people who were killed on 911
blatham
 
  4  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 07:19 am
From Bush speech-writer, Michael Gerson
Quote:
The GOP is at its peak, but conservatism has hit rock bottom

...The movement is authoritarian in theory, apocalyptic in mood, prone to conspiracy theories and personal abuse, and dismissive of ethical standards. The president-elect seems to offer equal chances of constitutional crisis and utter, debilitating incompetence.
LINK
blatham
 
  4  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 07:27 am
Quote:
Electoral College sees record-breaking defections

The seven so-called “faithless” votes cast by members of the Electoral College on Monday may go down as a noisy footnote to an otherwise chaotic 2016 election. But they also represent a historic breach between electors and the candidates they were expected to vote for.

The number of faithless votes has now become the most-ever cast in a single presidential election. The record was set in 1808, when six Democratic-Republican electors opposed James Madison. It’s also the first time since 1832 in which more than a single elector cast a faithless vote.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/electoral-college-electors-232836
Frugal1
 
  -2  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 07:32 am
The democrat nominee received even less EC votes than expected, she lost, and lost, and lost, and lost again. That nasty woman is a huge loser.
tony5732
 
  0  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 07:34 am
@giujohn,
To be fair, I don't think that one was on the Democrat presidents watch..... Nor do I think it was anyones fault. I think that was actually one of Obamas few strong points during his presidency.

That also happened a while ago, and we definitely have bigger problems right now. Like police death rates, and murder rates, and rioting pandemics, and racial tension, national deficit, Obamacare, dishonest secretary of state, threats to freedom of speech, threats to gun rights, etc.
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tony5732
 
  -1  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 07:35 am
@Frugal1,
I think you mean "yuge" loser. Smile
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tony5732
 
  0  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 07:37 am
@blatham,
Yeah, but it was more Hillary electors than Trump electors that didn't vote as expected
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tony5732
 
  -1  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 08:34 am
@blatham,
This is kind of basing an opinion off of an opinion.... I mean, who really cares what this guy has to say, conservative or liberal. It's just some off the wall comment with no substance whatsoever. A guy said something, that's cool.
Frugal1
 
  -1  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 09:02 am
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15622056_709709335845865_1913773402880258549_n.jpg?oh=1fee1a1ff62458e56b5ec31b8adfea29&oe=58F306F4
revelette1
 
  4  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 09:16 am
Something to watch in the coming months, I wonder what he is going to do with the remaining (hopefully there will still be fewer since Obama had been hampered from closing it entirely) detainees in Gitmo?

Right now there are 59 remaining prisoners with 17 scheduled for released.

Quote:
By late in the day, officials said, the administration had agreed to tell Congress that it intended to transfer 17 or 18 of the 59 remaining detainees at the prison; they would go to Italy, Oman, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. If all goes as planned, that will leave 41 or 42 prisoners in Guantánamo for Donald J. Trump’s administration. Mr. Trump has vowed to keep the prison operating and “load it up with some bad dudes.”

Obama administration officials agreed to speak about the transfers on the condition of anonymity to discuss diplomatic talks and congressional notifications that are not public.
Frugal1
 
  -2  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 09:17 am
@revelette1,
With any luck, 0bama & HRC will reside in Gitmo.
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tony5732
 
  0  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 09:20 am
@revelette1,
With a little bit of luck they will stay there and rot.
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georgeob1
 
  -1  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 09:44 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
The odds of being the victim of a shark attack are 1 in 11.5 million worldwide. Although there are 65 annual shark attacks each year, only a handful are fatal. Compared to this, a person is 3 times more likely to drown and 30 times more likely to be hit by lightning.
.......
The chances of being killed in a terrorist attack are about 1 in 20 million. A person is as likely to be killed by his or her own furniture, and more likely to die in a car accident, drown in a bathtub, or in a building fire than from a terrorist attack.
The chances a person will be killed by an asteroid are 1 in 200,000, which is much higher than the odds of being killed by hail, which is 1 in 734,400,000.
Each year, 1 out of 100,000 people die in a skydiving accident, which is 17 times lower than the risk of dying in a car accident.
.......
The lifetime probability of dying in a car accident is 1 in 100, which is 200 times higher than the probability of dying in a plane crash.
While 1 out of 5 people fear the possibility of being murdered, the odds that a person will be murdered in any given year are about 1 in 18,690. According to the FBI, violent crime is now at a near-historic low.
According to the CDC, the infant mortality rate is about 6 for every 1,000 live births, which is more than 10 times higher than the mortality rate of the county with the highest vehicle mortality rate—San Bernardino, California—in the country..............



Anyone worried about being killed by terrorists is someone who has been made irrationally fearful.


The odds of being kiled in a terrorist attack appear to be rising daily, and that is a central issue here. The correlation between recent terror attacks in Europe and recent immigration of Moslem immigrsants & refugees in Europe is unmistakeably high.

The odds of being killed in a nuclear reactor accident are far more favorable than those you cited for terrorism. Despite that there is serious resistence in the U.S and Europe to the construction of more of them.

The core issue here, which the piece you pasted here ignores completely, is the relationship between risk and the outrage of those subject to it. Risks that are the result of our own choices are far better tolerated than those imposed on us by others . Risks that are readily understandable based on regular experience are far better tolerated than those arising from things we don't understand or cant see or visualize easily. These are simply elements among the facts of human nature. I recognize the "right thinking progressives" often ignore these facts ( Ezekiel Emmanuel is still indignant that those "swtupid" healthy young people didn't buy the health insurance policies designed for them by himself and Prof. (ahem!) Jonathan Gruber.)

It will be interesting to observe the domestic political reaction in Germany to the latest attack at Christmas market in Berlin. The fact is these terrorist acts and deliberate murders are being dione by radicalized Moslems carrying out the struggle (jihad) mandated in the Koran against unbelievers. Their chosen targets include western secular civilization, Christians, Jews, and other identifiable religious minorities in the Middle East. These actions and the beliefs that drive them are clear violations of the principles outlined in the UN Declaration of Human rights. Despite that the Western World is nearly paralyzed by the dilemma this poses with respect to their own now much inflated and elaborated "values".

There are many examples in History of such dilemmas. The results are mixed but the odds indicated there aren't very good either.
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giujohn
 
  0  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 09:44 am
@revelette1,
It's ******* amazing that any one in their right mind would want to release these terrorists back into the fight...That is one twisted ******* mindset that only a bleeding heart liberal apologist would come up with... And that's why Liberals are a danger to our national security; always was, always will be.
tony5732
 
  0  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 09:56 am
@giujohn,
I don't think anyone in there RIGHT mind DID want to release the terrorists back into the fight....
Blickers
 
  4  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 09:59 am
@giujohn,
Quote giujohn:
Quote:
It's ******* amazing that any one in their right mind would want to release these terrorists back into the fight...That is one twisted ******* mindset that only a bleeding heart liberal apologist would come up with... And that's why Liberals are a danger to our national security; always was, always will be.
What's amazing is that anyone still thinks that anyone being detained for nearly a decade has no right to any due process, that they can just get thrown behind bars on the word of some informant who may or may not be telling the truth and left to rot there with no reading of charges and no trial. Just scream "Terrorist!" and people like you start embracing medieval torture methods.

You might have gotten this Trump guy in the White House for a term, but you are a part of history that is fading away. The future belongs to those who know that individual rights is the cornerstone of human society and progress.
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Blickers
 
  6  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 10:04 am
@tony5732,
Quote Tony5732:
Quote:
I don't think anyone in there RIGHT mind DID want to release the terrorists back into the fight....

You don't have to throw them back into the fight necessarily. An arraignment, a reading of charges and a trial would do nicely if you think there's evidence the guy belongs behind bars.

Oh-you don't have any evidence, but you still want to keep the guy behind bars for nearly a decade without a reading of charges, representation, and a trial? And you think you are part of the solution?
Frugal1
 
  -2  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 10:06 am
@Blickers,
Many of 0bama's muslim brothers that he released made their way back to the battlefield.
tony5732
 
  0  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 10:10 am
@Frugal1,
Give me a source please. I am interested.
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Blickers
 
  3  
Tue 20 Dec, 2016 10:10 am
@Frugal1,
Quote Frugal1:
Quote:
Many of 0bama's muslim brothers that he released made their way back to the battlefield.

How many? And if we do away with the reading of charges and a trial in a fair amount of time, what is the point of the United States of America? If somebody said to you when you were growing up, "In America you can taken into custody, thrown behind bars for nearly a decade and never have the charges against you read to you and no trial scheduled in all that time", you would say, "Never, not in the USA".

Oh, I forgot, you're a Russian. In that case, throwing somebody away without due process makes perfect sense and I'm wasting my time. Carry on.
 

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