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Olivier5
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 01:17 am
@layman,
Evidently, that shooting Bernite thought otherwise, and there will be others like him. If I were still living in the states, I would buy a gun at this point. There is no trust left in the US, no binding force. And if you can't trust your neighbour anymore, you'd better get ready to defend yourself from him or her.
layman
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 01:17 am
Has anyone watched any of the live videos of this shooting? The guy just fired on unarmed, defenseless people time and time and time again, at his leisure. Over 50 shots were fired, according to reports. It's just lucky that he was a relatively poor shot.

How and when did it end? As always, it didn't end until other guns arrived on the scene. This would have been much sooner if any of the people on the field or in the crowd watching had been armed. They weren't, and that makes cheese-eaters extremely happy.
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MontereyJack
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 01:51 am
@layman,
Layman sez"
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What they want is for Trump to do what he promised to when they voted for him
We DID NOT vote for him, that's why he lost the actual vote by nearly three million. Only the electoral college voted for him, and it is intentionally stacked against the actual vote. And the polls DO tell us what the will of the peop;le is, and it is in NO respect what Donald Trump is doing.
MontereyJack
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 01:58 am
@layman,
It may surprise you to know that counties don't vote. Peop;e vote, and PEOPLE rejected Trump. Besides those "county" statistics are bogus--try tallying them yourself,. Someone cooked the country statisitcs.
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layman
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 02:50 am
That's right, Ricardo:

Quote:
ICE chief says illegal immigrants should live in fear of deportation

Illegal immigrants should be living in fear of being deported, the chief of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said Tuesday, pushing back against a growing sentiment among Democrats on Capitol Hill and activists across the country who have complained about agents enforcing the laws on the books.

His comments marked a major shift for an agency that President Obama forbade from enforcing the law when it came to more than 9 million of the country’s estimated 11 million illegal immigrants. Unshackled from Mr. Obama’s strictures, agents have dramatically increased the number of arrests.

“If you’re in this country illegally and you committed a crime by being in this country, you should be uncomfortable, you should look over your shoulder. You need to be worried,” Mr. Homan testified to the House Appropriations Committee. “No population is off the table."

Mr. Homan, meanwhile, said he needs a major infusion of detention beds to hold the larger population of illegal immigrants, now that his agents have been unshackled from the restrictions under Mr. Obama.

Advocacy groups are enraged and demand leniency for “traumatized” immigrants.

He said the illegal immigrants deserve the blame for separating families. When a U.S. citizen commits a crime and goes to jail, he said, the police who catch him aren’t blamed for keeping him from his family.

Mr. Homan said the increased risk of enforcement is part of the reason illegal immigration across the southwestern border is at its lowest level in decades.


Talk to yo Mama about your Trauma, Teodoro.

Trump aint givin them no "beds," though. Each one is allocated a 2.5' x 7' rectangle in the desert sand to sleep on in remote desert locations. He is actually quite generous in putting up a canopy that keeps the rain off of them, where necessary. But it aint necessary in the desert, where it never rains.

And if a rattlesnake strikes several of them and the guards happen to notice it, they will usually mosey on over and humanely kill the snake, ya know?
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hightor
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 03:47 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
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The voters are owed the president they elected and if he is truly and seriously unfit for office (and not because he's a crude and nasty s.o.b. who says mean things about people and won't advance the progressive political agenda) they are owed the proper working of the system to remove him from power.

Finn, Mr. Trump won't be removed from office without clear evidence of wrongdoing and wide scale popular resentment of his presidency. He was elected, not by all of us, but to represent all of us. Despite narrowly winning a close election he has been a singular failure when it comes to reaching out to his opposition — which seems to be a key to his ineffectiveness so far. The opposing party is not required to rubber stamp the calculated (and seemingly spiteful) undoing of every piece of legislation passed by the previous administration. I think Mr. Trump has been particularly hamfisted with regard to this, egged on by the most reactionary of his supporters.

Suspicious behavior regarding contacts with Russian by his campaign staff while the country was being flooded with leaked material probably hacked by Russian operatives led to the current investigations. The investigations will determine the extent of Mr. Trump's culpability — which may be nothing. He is known to have had pretty extensive contacts with figures referred to as the "Russian Mafia" but those contacts themselves are not illegal. But that is part of the reason for the suspicion. His tax records should serve him well if he has nothing to hide. Let the investigation proceed.

On another front there are ethical concerns raised in the suit by Maryland and the D.C. — here again, he's been particularly tin-eared when it comes possible conflicts of interest. Whether his actions are illegal or not will be settled in the courts.

Mr. Trump's most rabid supporters said they wanted someone who would shake up the establishment, no more "business as usual". Well, this is what that looks like. This is why we normally don't elect politically-inexperienced pop culture icons to high office. Really — what did you expect?

I'm not saying I expected a Clinton presidency to be running any more smoothly — the 2016 election was a disaster waiting to happen with either outcome. The only way out I can see is the emergence of a new centrist party and the implementation of ranked choice voting. Not very realistic, I know. May be there is no solution. Maybe, thinking we could have it all and that the post-war economic boom would continue without consequences forever, we simply outsmarted ourselves. It's not as if the other western democracies are doing that much better.
Brandon9000
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 04:07 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Look at Trump's poll numbers, silly. He ain't goin up, he's only going down. He lost the election, he couldn't win on his own, he had to get boosted in by the phony Electoral College. People despise him and they despise his agenda.It's perfectly appropriate to work actively and aggressively against someone who so flagrantly misreads the will of the American people..

Bill Clinton's poll numbers at this point in his presidency were lower than Trump's are right now, and Clinton didn't have the mainstream media working day and night to destroy him.
edgarblythe
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 04:36 am
@Brandon9000,
Finally something from you I agree with.
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farmerman
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 04:47 am
@giujohn,
I dont necessarily disagree with your take on thi. I noticed that after the incident at Alexandria occurred, the mediainitiated an inuendo-thon. Looking for blame , as if the actions of one major nut describes a movement.
When we define what is "MSM" we must recognize thatit has several components ,including huge representation by broadcast journalism and newspapers that represent BOTH SIDES of the coin.

farmerman
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 04:57 am
@oralloy,
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Great ideas often seem impossible to achieve when first examined
Youre a mystery . On some items you come across well informed and intelligent. Then you start posting like some 13 year old who has no idea about whats in the US Constitution re "rights of assembly, speech, petition, etc etc". If you want me to defend the 2nd amendment, you better start recognizing all the others.

Otherwise you clearly demonstrate what many say of you-- that you're a "one trick pony"

Most of your colleagues recognize facts and recognize what makes our country great, when you begin to travel a road that ends in fascism,or worse, I think most of them will separate themselves from you,(except gungasnake, who's mostly just messin with your head)
gungasnake
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 05:16 am
@hightor,
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Despite narrowly winning a close election....


Did your mommy never tell you that fairytales aren't real??
farmerman
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 05:36 am
@gungasnake,
winning the presidency by LOSING the popular vote and only winning the ELECTORAL vote, aint a mandate, its more of a LOOPHOLE.
hightor
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 05:40 am
@gungasnake,
Show me the math then. Show me that Mr. Trump won by a wide margin in the popular vote, even leaving out the California results. I think the Trump "landslide" is the fairy tale.
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gungasnake
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 05:40 am
@farmerman,
The election was a masssive blowout DESPITE massive fraud and cheating on the part of the dems. You should see a doctor about the denial...
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gungasnake
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 05:42 am
Demopoops sowing the wind....

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giujohn
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 06:52 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

Look at Trump's poll numbers, silly. He ain't goin up, he's only going down. He lost the election, he couldn't win on his own, he had to get boosted in by the phony Electoral College. People despise him and they despise his agenda.It's perfectly appropriate to work actively and aggressively against someone who so flagrantly misreads the will of the American people..


You sound just like the gunman in yesterday's shooting. Bear this in mind; law enforcement is now taking a closer look at hate speech on line(which is not protected by 1st Amendment)

Olivier5
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 07:13 am
@giujohn,
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law enforcement is now taking a closer look at hate speech on line(which is not protected by 1st Amendment)

OMG! You can't spread your hatred of cheese connoisseurs on A2K anymore??? Will you survive?
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giujohn
 
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Thu 15 Jun, 2017 07:27 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

I dont necessarily disagree with your take on thi. I noticed that after the incident at Alexandria occurred, the mediainitiated an inuendo-thon. Looking for blame , as if the actions of one major nut describes a movement.
When we define what is "MSM" we must recognize thatit has several components ,including huge representation by broadcast journalism and newspapers that represent BOTH SIDES of the coin.




I believe where in the past responsible news outlets would not consider a story unless they had at least two independent sources especially when they are anonymous. I believe that standard has been abandoned at the alter of the 24 hour news cycle.
It's infotainment that panders to the lowest common denominator. Journalism is dead. In it's place, rank partisan blowhards with a megaphone.
 

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