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Friedman, Trump's choice for ambasador to Israel is, surprise, a Putin fan.

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Learn a lesson from Russia
Vladimir Putin gets it. So does Netanyahu. Forget the rest of the world's leaders.
Russia is going to defeat ISIS. Not with a “coalition” of cowards, freeloaders and hypocrites led from behind by the American president, but all by itself. It will bomb ISIS strongholds, train and arm Syrian soldiers and destroy ISIS resistance until the Islamic State surrenders (unlikely) or ceases to exist (let’s hope).

And, when Russia defeats ISIS, it will have accomplished something that the
United States hasn’t done since 1945 nor Israel since 1973: win a war.

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@blatham,

Bloody dark days ahead with no hope in sight.

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Here's another Friedman quote (ps Peter Beinart has been reviewing Friedman's past writing/commentary)

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The US State Department – with a hundred-year history of anti-Semitism

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@revelette1,

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Bloody dark days ahead with no hope in sight.

I'm feeling a tad gloomy but not quite that much.

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@reasoning logic,

reasoning logic wrote:

Debra What is your view about interstate crosscheck?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOc8kOU704E&t=115s[/youtube]

Interstate crosscheck is one means among many, e.g., gerrymandering, elimination of available polling places, inoperable or malfunctioning voting apparatus, etc., to suppress voter rights.

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@blatham,

cool!

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@ossobucotemp,

And I'm sad to say (sad for both of us) that Mankoff and I look quite alike.

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@Debra Law,

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Interstate crosscheck is one means among many, e.g., gerrymandering, elimination of available polling places, inoperable or malfunctioning voting apparatus, etc., to suppress voter rights.

Thanks for your well thought out reply

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@tony5732,

tony5732 wrote:

Now that's not really fair at all Blatham... I made a little report for you, listed my sources, explained the correlation between Obama talking and people rioting, showed you my facts, and you can't "waste your time" giving me one example of Obama saying anything about anybody getting robbed, beat down, or perhaps being in a bp gas station while it was lit on fire? Come on man, this isn't a fastball. It's an nice easy slow pitch right over the plate. As informed as you are you should be able to knock that one out of the park. Use one of YOUR sources.

You haven't done anything other than parrot right wing propaganda centered on Orwellian claims of victimhood. And now you claim you're not treated fairly? The pedestal you place yourself on is much too high given your many unsupported and fallacious offerings thus far.

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@revelette1,

Only if that nasty woman manages to steal the election at the very last minute.

She lost - Trump won.

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@Debra Law,

?? I didn't parrot anything. I stated facts, I posted where I got those facts from, and then explained why I formed my opinion off of those facts. What have I posted that was not true??

What is unsupported?

Can YOU tell me one thing Obama said to riot victims, or about riot victims? I guess Blatham decided to ignore which was probably the right move for him.

Maybe you could offer a better answer to our debate question.

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@reasoning logic,

reasoning logic wrote:

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Interstate crosscheck is one means among many, e.g., gerrymandering, elimination of available polling places, inoperable or malfunctioning voting apparatus, etc., to suppress voter rights.

Thanks for your well thought out reply

It was short and to the point. What is most appalling is the efficacy of the dirty practices, far too numerous to list and discuss, and the difficulty in thwarting them. Red states would not be quite so red or perhaps not red at all if the will of the people was actually reflected in the results of elections and referendums.

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@blatham,

Me too, except for the gender business. Oh, and my hair is longer.

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@tony5732,

tony5732 wrote:

Maybe you could offer a better answer to our debate question.

Your uninformed opinions are not statements of fact. Your Orwellian claims of victimhood are fallacious. In other words, there is no debate. In order for a debate to exist, you must present an argument that is both valid and sound.

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@Debra Law,

1. I don't know who claimed victim hood.

2. You still did not tell me which of my claims, sources, or facts were false.

3. You still have not answered the question.

The only thing you guys seem to want to here is an OPINION about how Trump sucks. Please show ONE time, just one, that Obama said anything about riot victims.

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@tony5732,

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/29/us/politics/events-in-baltimore-reflect-a-slow-rolling-crisis-across-us-obama-says.html

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@cicerone imposter,

Well, that's AN answer. It was little more than an opportunity to say stuff like

" We have seen too many instances of what appears to be police officers interacting with individuals, primarily African-American, often poor, in ways that raise troubling questions,” Mr. Obama said. “This has been a slow-rolling crisis. This has been going on for a long time. This is not new, and we shouldn’t pretend that it’s new.”

Pointing the blame of the riots right back on the police, instead of the individuals rioting. He still made no mention about the victims in the riot. He still wasn't saying what happened to them.

To be fair saying there was no excuse for the riots is SOMETHING.

Thank you cicero.

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@tony5732,

tony5732 wrote:

Can YOU tell me one thing Obama said to riot victims, or about riot victims?

You should display understanding of the security and protections of the people under the freedom of speech and freedom of assembly clauses set forth in the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

You should display understanding with respect to the difference between riots, incidents of civil unrest, disorderly conduct, protected rights to speech and assembly, and the like.

You should display understanding that not all protestors are rioters. Incidents of disorderly conduct are not the same as riots. Protesting is not the same as riots. Exercising freedoms secured by our Constitution is not rioting.

The unlawful act of one or a few does not make the acts of all "unlawful".

But you do not display any knowledge or understanding of fundamental concepts.

You have ignored Blatham's previous admonition to you that incidents of civil unrest, etc., are not the equivalent of riots (which are unlawful), and that many "incidents" are simply forms of protected speech and assembly. Thus, your citation to a wiki list of incidents of civil unrest did nothing to support your claim that liberals are violent and rioting continuously.

Your reference to "riot victims" is meant to inflame and not to inform.

And if you're interested in finding statements made by President Obama condemning the despicable killings of the Dallas police officers, a simple search on an internet search engine would lead you immediately to such a statement.

I'm not going to conduct your searches for you. Do your own work. But don't pretend Obama never made statements condemning violence. Such pretense only discloses the disingenuous nature of your partisan dribbling in false victimhood.

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@Debra Law,

Ok. I am not bashing freedom of speech, and I am not bashimg the right to assemble. What I am having a hard time understanding is how this

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

OR this

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly

Allows this

http://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/watch-crowd-burns-down-bp-gas-station-with-employees-trapped-inside

And where Obama says anything about these people, or anybody like these people who have been robbed, beat, or unnecessarily harmed during the riots.

I don't think dallas had anything to do with a riot. That was a shooting. I didn't say anything about Obama's stance on shootings.

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@tony5732,

I did say the memorial was an inappropriate place for a Black Lives Matter speech.

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