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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Frugal1
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 04:31 pm
@glitterbag,
8 years of 0bama's mediocre mind woke up a sleeping giant, the people did not want HRC because she meant an extension of BHO's mediocrity, or worse. The American people went to the ballot box and repudiated ALL things 0bama, liberalism is a failure in America.
nimh
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 04:36 pm
@Frugal1,
Quote:
The American people went to the ballot box and repudiated ALL things 0bama


1. Obama's pretty popular. 55% job approval rating currently. It's Hillary who didn't seal the deal.

2. Even when talking Hillary's election loss, "the American people" is an odd choice of words. Considering that a plurality of "the American people" voted for her: 65.8 million votes to Trump's 63.0 million. The reason Trump won wasn't so much "the American people" as rather the voters of Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania...
Frugal1
 
  0  
Sat 17 Dec, 2016 04:55 pm
Scientific proof that the election of Trump has restored blood flow to America's penis.

Push it - Push it Real Good.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz6bNIQXAAAa_cJ.jpg:large
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 05:39 pm
@nimh,
Some people who have lived in the US all their lives don't even understand US politics.
georgeob1
 
  1  
Sat 17 Dec, 2016 05:45 pm
@nimh,
I 'm not curious enough to investigate, but I suspect there's more disapproval of Obama out there than is indicated in these polls. Indeed he factors behind it may well be related to those behind the rather pervasive wide disparity observable between the preelection Presidential polls and the voting results in nearly every state.

If I'm not mistaken Trump carried about 40 of our 50 states.

The very wide Republican majority in the House of Representatives where all of 435 seats were contested and in the Senate where about 33 seats were contested reveals a very decisive (and large by historical standards) popular majority for the Republicans. I suspect many voters were a bit spooked by Trump's brash manner and tactics, and that may explain why he trailed his party. However the results of both the preelection polls and the election itself indicate that trump's support was growing during the last few months before the election, and is very likely much stronger now.

I agree that Hillary proved to be a very weak candidate. Indeed I'm truly surprised she survived her several fiascos during her term at the State department. A very politicized and partisam President and Justice Department (not to mention DNC) saved her for a defeat she amply earned.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 05:48 pm
@georgeob1,
From the media information I've been reading, Obama has enjoyed an approval rating in the fifties for most of his term as president. There's a reason why he won a second term.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-approval-rating-reaches-four-year-high-cbs-news-poll/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2013/11/19/this-is-one-big-reason-why-obama-won-a-second-term/?utm_term=.fe6da6b2859a
roger
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 05:53 pm
I'm inclined to believe it's just a matter of Obama benefiting by comparison with Trump.
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georgeob1
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 06:03 pm
@blatham,
Most of the references to the PC phrase I've heard come from my liberal friends who so frequently remind me of my personal shortcomings in that area. (I'm more careful when I write, but my speech is reported to be filled with incorrectitudes that are overcome only by my charm.) I'll readily agree I'm not very aware (or interested) in the journalistic origins of the term, but I do understand its contemporary usage by both progressive believers and conservative skeptics.

I think I understand the origins of the term in the usages to which you refer in the academic world, and indeed I have heard a good bit of it from some academics I know. My own (fairly brief) experience with the "scholarly" academic world taught me that its social compact had much in common with a high school sororitry. Ample pretense of originality and individualality on small issues but a very pronounced herd mentality on larger ones. Very conformist in my view. Naval Aviators were far more diverse, creative and original.

I believe what I wrote about the various group identities and values at the heart of a sizeable fraction of "politically correct" thought and speech is indeed accurate, as is the critique I provided of it. Do you agree?
tony5732
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 06:04 pm
@blatham,
He's kinda right. I mean, I AM here to contest liberal ideas. I would love to hear some, so I could contest them. Maybe I will agree!Trump bashing over and over is redundant though. I don't understand why people can't at least wait for the guy to have bad results before bashing him and his decisions.

I mean, the stock market went up the minute the guy won. Jobs have been saved. He didn't even take office yet.


tony5732
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 06:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Yeah. Bush too. Great president. Totally deserved a second term.
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tony5732
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 06:07 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The media, celebrities, the Clinton campaign......
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 06:10 pm
@tony5732,
One of Trump's ideas is to reduce the income tax rate from 35% to 15%. That will increase the national debt, and a greater portion of our taxes will be used to pay higher interest, and long term difficulty to our economy.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-tax-plan-would-boost-economy-in-short-run-but-not-long-term-analysis-finds-1476726625
tony5732
 
  0  
Sat 17 Dec, 2016 06:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Well, see if he does it, and if he somehow damages national debt worse than Obama did. Use all three of your scales for that one.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 06:23 pm
@tony5732,
Did you know that Trump's tax plan will benefit the top 1% with 47% of the benefit?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/janetnovack/2016/10/11/trump-tax-plan-gives-47-of-cuts-to-richest-1-new-analysis-finds/#4ac122fc59fc
Poor people believe Trump has their interest at heart. LOL
They voted for him.
giujohn
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 08:04 pm
@blatham,
Response moderated: Personal attack. See more info.
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tony5732
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 08:22 pm
@cicerone imposter,
people believe that they have been failed. On many levels, they have. Clinton would have been a continuation of Obama, and more importantly, we would have a liberal Supreme Court.
giujohn
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 08:29 pm
@scareddem,
scareddem wrote:

What I don’t understand is why no one has mentioned that Trump could have Alzheimers. His father died from complications of ALZ. There are tests, PET scan and genetic testing, to determine if he has it but no one has mentioned it. Having dealt with dementia patients for years, I see many of his behaviors as similar and alarming. His medical records release were a joke. Wake up America.


Have you seen the patient in person yet? And correct me if I'm wrong, the only way to confirm Alzheimers is post mortem.

I'm familiar with dementia patients and he exhibits no such signs. You're imagining it or maybe psychologically projecting...Have you been checked for dementia? Keep posting and I'll diagnose you.
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Blickers
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 08:41 pm
@tony5732,
Quote Tony 5732:
Quote:
people believe that they have been failed. On many levels, they have. Clinton would have been a continuation of Obama,

Under Bill Clinton, the country GAINED 16 Million Full Time jobs during his two terms. Under his successor, Bush 43, the country gained only 2.7 Million.

When Barack Obama took office, the country had LOST 6 Million Full Time jobs the year before. Now the country has GAINED 2 Million Full Time jobs in the last 12 months and 5 Million Full Time jobs the past two years.

Bill Clinton and Barack Obama have delivered in the Full Time job department. The Republicans have failed-but you'll never get them to admit it.
giujohn
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 09:08 pm
@Blickers,
And the sub prime lending that caused the resession during bush 43 was Bill's fault...So he givth and he taketh away...No fault of bush.
Obama was responsible for bringing back low paid jobs and no economic growth.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 09:22 pm
@Blickers,
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/06/business/economy/jobs-report-unemployment-wages.html?_r=0

Job reports for 2016.
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