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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
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Fri 16 Dec, 2016 10:19 pm
@tony5732,
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Absolutely. The authoritarian information control regime was obviously not with trump about a month ago....

I don't think you understand how information control, in the political sense we're talking about, actually works. And I don't think you grasp what authoritarianism looks like.

As to "ignore", no, you won't put me on ignore. Nor will georgeob nor McG nor likely anyone on the right (perhaps one or two, but I doubt it). There's a reason for that which, except in the case of some, isn't about manners or intellectual integrity. It's about contesting liberal ideas.
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blatham
 
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Fri 16 Dec, 2016 10:24 pm
Winner of today's coveted "you don't know what you've got until some insane bully tells you he's going to take it away" award
Quote:
"President Obama announced that the Obamacare marketplace saw 670,000 people sign up for coverage Thursday, its biggest open enrollment day ever."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/obamacare-biggest-sign-up-day
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blatham
 
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Fri 16 Dec, 2016 10:30 pm
And we have another winner! This award goes to the Most Incrediblist Cherry Pick of the Day. Congrats!
Quote:
* Trump this week thanked the Financial Times for naming him “Person of the Year,” which he described as “a great honor.” I don’t think he actually read the editorial, however, because the Financial Times also said Trump risks doing “incalculable” damage to American democracy.
from Steve Benen with the link to FT (behind a pay wall, so if anyone is a subscriber they can toss it in for us)
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blatham
 
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Fri 16 Dec, 2016 10:48 pm
For what it's worth, Gallup has Trump's favorability rating at 42 and unfavorable at 55
http://www.gallup.com/poll/199997/trump-maintains-post-election-bounce-no-new-gains.aspx

Closest I can find on others
Obama Jan 2009 - 67 - 69
Reagan Dec 1988 - 63
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blatham
 
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Fri 16 Dec, 2016 11:06 pm
Damn good question from Steve Benen
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As a presidential candidate, Donald Trump’s standard stump speech included a very specific claim about crime in the United States.
Oct. 28, 2016: “You won’t hear this from the media: We have the highest murder rate in this country in 45 years. You don’t hear that from these people. They don’t want to talk about it. The highest murder rate in the United States in 45 years.”

Oct. 29, 2016: “The murder rate in the United States, it’s the worst, the highest it’s been in 45 years. Nobody talks about that — nobody talks about that.”

Oct. 30, 2016: “Murder is – in 45 years, right now, the rates are the highest they’ve been … and they don’t want to talk about it.”
The reason “they” – he never said who “they” are – didn’t want to talk about the murder rate reaching a 45-year high is that the claim is ridiculously untrue. In fact, as the Washington Post explained before the election, Trump actually has the entire story backwards: “Both the rate of homicides and violent crimes are back down to the levels they were 45 years ago.”

In other words, in reality, the murder rate is roughly at a 50-year low, even though Trump claimed every day for months that it’s at a 45-year high.

...And that got me thinking: why is Trump so fond of this specific falsehood? As a pre-election tactic, the deceptive rhetoric at least made strategic sense, but now that he’s already won the election, why bother?

I can think of a few possible explanations:

1. Maybe Trump intends to impose some exceedingly harsh criminal-justice “reforms,” so he needs the public to remain scared of murder rates that don’t exist in order to help justify his regressive and reactionary policy agenda.

2. Perhaps Trump is quietly trying to undermine public confidence in data and statistics. Sure, law-enforcement agencies keep providing us with facts about crime rates, but Trump probably prefers a political environment in which the public trusts his word alone, not the reality-based community.

3. Maybe Trump intends to switch after he takes office and start using the real data once he’s president. “Remember how I said the murder rate is at a 45-year low?” Trump may ask. “Well, now look how low it is! I must be doing a great job!”

4. Perhaps Trump actually believes his own nonsense, and lacks the ability to understand why he’s mistaken.

Which of these explains his bizarre mendacity? Your guess is as good as mine.
internal links

I'd offer another possibility roughly related to 1.

An appeal to racism. Coincident to Trump's fear-mongering untruths was the loud and consistent campaign run via right wing media to promote the Black Lives Matter story in a very particular way - the dangerous black man. Just, for an example, look above at Tony's posts on BLM. That's standard. Trump and Bannon understood, as others have previously, that a large segment of the GOP base responds to such scary rhetoric about blacks. It's a long and consistent history made explicit by Lee Atwater in the 90s. It is an "us" versus "them" framing and Trump uses that one consistently.
blatham
 
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Fri 16 Dec, 2016 11:12 pm
Quote:
digby ‏@digby56 6h6 hours ago
The NYT's David Sanger reported on Chuck Todd's MSNBC that the FBI didn't tell the WH about the DNC hack for months. WTF?

I'm not sure on this one yet. Will have to wait to see the reporting. But if true...WTF? as Digby said.
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blatham
 
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Fri 16 Dec, 2016 11:17 pm
Apparently Sean Spicer was asked today about Russian hacking and he responded that it was the fault of the DNC tech department and/or Clinton's server.

He knows that's a blatant lie but for these people that no longer matters. All that matters is what you can get people to believe such that you are aided politically.
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blatham
 
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Fri 16 Dec, 2016 11:23 pm
And, finally, dude goes into sex shop to rob it and the two ladies inside drive him off with a fusillade of dildos. Really. My kind of girls. As one of them said in an interview later, "Those things come in handy"
http://abc7.com/1658847/
giujohn
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 04:38 am
@tony5732,
- Response moderated: Personal attack. See more info.
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blatham
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 08:21 am
NYTimes editorial this morning
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In appointing David Friedman as the next ambassador to Israel, Donald Trump voiced a desire to “strive for peace in the Middle East.” Unfortunately, his chosen representative would be far more likely to provoke conflict in Israel and the occupied territories, heighten regional tensions and undermine American leadership.
yup
Everything I've read about this guy suggests that looks to be true. So what the hell is going on? Why would Trump's crowd prefer such an extreme confrontational choice to send to Israel?

1. they want to further destabilize the region
2. they are so extreme in anti-Muslim sentiment they actually desire a larger conflict with that religious group
3. they aren't thinking that far ahead about much of anything and just following the advices of ultra-extremists in or influencing their transition team decisions
4. they are picking extremists here and elsewhere - extremists they know will cause loud protests - simply as a demonstration of power (the alpha bully thing)
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blatham
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 08:54 am
I'll add one more possibility to that list
5. rewarding loyalty to someone in his personal circle
link
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blatham
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 09:16 am
This is sure to work out well
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President-elect Donald Trump has named Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.) as his director of the Office of Management and Budget, signaling his intent to slash spending and address the deficit as president.

Mulvaney, 49, was elected to Congress in 2010 in the wave that brought in a cohort of younger, staunchly conservative members into the House. Mulvaney quickly staked out ground as one of Congress’s most outspoken fiscal hawks — playing a key role in the 2011 showdown between President Obama and House Republicans that ended in the passage of strict budget caps.

...A founding member of the House Freedom Caucus, a group of about three dozen conservative hard-liners that has used its leverage to push Republican leaders to the right, Mulvaney was among the group of lawmakers widely credited with pushing House Speaker John A. Boehner out of power in 2015.

...One analysis by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimated Trump’s tax plan would cost more than $5.3 trillion over the next decade. Even after factoring in faster economic growth, Trump’s proposals are expected to add at least $2.6 trillion to the debt over the next decade, according to the nonpartisan Tax Foundation.

The Freedom Caucus includes 40 plus of the most extreme right wing elements in the GOP, one female and one non white.

If you were wondering who in the modern party hates government (if it isn't them) the most, it's these guys. If you wondered who hates social programs the most, these guys again. If you were curious what group was least inclined to be concerned with the plight of women, ethnic minorities, gay people, or the poor, it is these guys. And finally, if you were to ask which crowd in the modern Congress was most tightly aligned with the Heritage Foundation with all its John Birch ideological inheritance. you've just located them.
ossobucotemp
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 09:34 am
@blatham,
That trick is especially useful in a fast moving thread like this one.
blatham
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 09:46 am
@ossobucotemp,
Ain't it ever. Obviously I had no idea that capability was built in.

Now, if we can get Robert to do up the coding so that we can click on a name and have an egg plant salad explode all over that person's frontal region, we'd be really making progress.
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ehBeth
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 09:47 am
@blatham,
Wasn't that the best. They interviewed one of them on As It Happens last night.
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ehBeth
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 09:50 am
@blatham,
Fear works.

We only have to look at some posters at A2K (not the ones I've noticed in this thread) who are still afraid of seemingly everything that isn't white and Christian as a result of the post 9-11 fear mongering that stoked the invasions in the middle east and kept the war industry chugging along.
blatham
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 09:51 am
Not sure if I posted this earlier. Pardon if so. From the New Yorker:
Quote:
BETSY DEVOS AND THE PLAN TO BREAK PUBLIC SCHOOLS
building a path to Jesus and making the big bucks too
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giujohn
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 09:55 am
@blatham,
Hey blather... I have a suggestion for you... in an effort to save time and maybe to keep you from getting carpal tunnel, you should probably just post that you're going to hate any appointment, idea, decision, or recommendation that Donald Trump makes in the next 8 years and leave it at that. Because frankly, at this point you sound like nothing more then a member of the wine and cheese crowd, with an emphasis on wine, upset for not getting your way.
blatham
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2016 09:57 am
I suppose that the Family Values crowd is now overjoyed to have American being run by a ruling family.
giujohn
 
  1  
Sat 17 Dec, 2016 09:58 am
@blatham,
Better than a crime family.
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