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camlok
 
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Fri 2 Jun, 2017 09:04 am
@snood,
Quote:
He's a stooge.


Again with the hypocrisy.
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Olivier5
 
  3  
Fri 2 Jun, 2017 09:30 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

If Tillerson hasn't resigned by the end of this week, I'll regard him as an industry stooge.

Errr... the guy was CEO of ExxonMobil from 2006 to 2016. You bet he is an industry stooge.
farmerman
 
  3  
Fri 2 Jun, 2017 09:46 am
@Olivier5,
yeh but hes almost been a "loyal opposition" to some of Trumps wackier uninformed proposals (like this one)
revelette1
 
  6  
Fri 2 Jun, 2017 09:49 am
@snood,
Anyone joining or speaking for the administration takes a chance on their credibility. People who were might have even been respected soon lose it.

Quote:
A growing cadre of former military officers who served with Trump National Security adviser H.R. McMaster are quietly calling for him to retire from service, worried the embattled Trump administration is tarnishing the U.S. military’s reputation by deploying their own personal three-star general as a political shield.

In recent weeks, McMaster has acted almost as a White House spokesperson, thrust into the spotlight to promise that Trump didn’t reveal anything inappropriate when he shared another spy agency’s intelligence with two Russian officials in the Oval Office. McMaster was also the face—or the voice—of the administration on Trump’s first foreign trip, giving off-camera interviews to explain what the president hoped to accomplish from Saudi Arabia to NATO.

Trump himself gave no interviews, as news broke back in the states that his son-in-law and key organizer of the trip, Jared Kushner, had reportedly sought to establish back-channel communications with Russia, using Russian communications equipment. McMaster claimed he was “not concerned” by “back-channel communications,” though fellow military professionals say what Kushner proposed went far beyond the discreet diplomacy.

“It makes me uncomfortable that a serving military officer is in that role,” said a retired senior military officer who calls McMaster a friend. “The credibility he has is precisely why they are using him as a spokesman. I think that’s unfortunate.”

“H.R. is being used here,” added a former military adviser who worked with McMaster overseas. “If he didn’t have three stars on his shoulder, he’d be useless to them. It’s the worst of all outcomes for him. He’s got this miserable interagency process and then gets trotted out to defend the most inane and corrupting things,” said the adviser who spoke anonymously, like others in this story, to avoid reprisals from the Trump administration.

Current and former army military officers have expressed to The Daily Beast unease with how the Trump White House has sent McMaster repeatedly into the political breach to defend the commander in chief’s actions to the American public.

That’s fueling calls for the maverick Army officer to retire from military service if he wants to stay in the White House, lest his increasingly political role damage the U.S. military’s reputation as being above party and politics.

“He has to retire,” said an officer who served with McMaster overseas. “Being the national security adviser that this president requires—given the random things Trump’s going to say that he has to defend—he can’t do that in uniform.


More at DB
snood
 
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Fri 2 Jun, 2017 09:53 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

yeh but hes almost been a "loyal opposition" to some of Trumps wackier uninformed proposals (like this one)

Tillerson has always seemed to be in way over his head, to me. He was brought on board because he was a crony capitalist oilman, not because he was expected to be a statesman, or understand foreign affairs. So it's definitely not a big shock that he will defer to any stated opinion Herr Gropenfuhrer mas.
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hightor
 
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Fri 2 Jun, 2017 10:33 am
@gungasnake,
Since you aren't concerned with the credibility of your sources you ought to put some LaRouche statements up as well.
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hightor
 
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Fri 2 Jun, 2017 10:40 am
@McGentrix,
Ever look into the effects of particulate pollution on the arctic snow fields? What about the acidification of the oceans due to carbon build up in the atmosphere? Are you familiar with mercury pollution, ground level ozone, and acid rain ?
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Blickers
 
  4  
Fri 2 Jun, 2017 10:44 am
@blatham,
Quote blatham:
Quote:
If Tillerson hasn't resigned by the end of this week, I'll regard him as an industry stooge.

Why shouldn't Tillerson be an oil industry stooge? He's already been a Putin stooge for years, like all the other Trump insiders, (Flynn, Manafort, Bannon & Sessions).

Here's Putin pinning a high Russian honor almost never given to non-Russians. That's how much Putin loves Tillerson:

gungasnake
 
  -4  
Fri 2 Jun, 2017 10:50 am
fruits and nuts in Hollyweird Californicatia melt down:

http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/06/02/hollywood-suffers-meltdown-from-trumps-paris-climate-snub/

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maporsche
 
  4  
Fri 2 Jun, 2017 11:15 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

The Climate-Alliance Germany ("Klima-Allianz Deutschland") is a network of 110 civil society organizations, including environment groups, development groups, trade unions, and consumer associations.
Founded in 2007 by for instance the Evangelical Church of Westphalia.
On the annual Global Climate Day of Action, the Alliance organises nationwide demonstrations, they organise and co-ordinate demonstrations against coal-fired power stations ...


What replaced the Nuclear Power stations that Chancellor Merkel shut down in her successful effort to destroy the Green party? Coal produced power was a major part of it.


Absolutely nothing wrong with clean coal. Capture the CO2 emissions and all is good.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Fri 2 Jun, 2017 11:19 am
@Olivier5,
If the CEO of Exxon is an industry stooge, then who has the reins of the industry?

Wait, don't tell me: The Koch Brothers!
McGentrix
 
  -2  
Fri 2 Jun, 2017 11:38 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Trumps method to unerpin the coal industry is , in my thinking, the main rason for bagging out of Paris.
Hes wrong about the basis of the accords and hes wrong on the effect. Coal is shrinking because of MARKET forces, not anything like "overreaching regulations".

The solar renewable industry is now booming and I see that weve given that industry completely away .

Hes subsidizing buggy whips.

He always seems to do things counter to our interests


First of all, the Paris Climate Accords started on Nov. 4, 2016. It's not as though this has been some long standing rule that has been effecting the world. This was an Obama feather that was plucked from his cap. Another thing done at the end of his term that he couldn't get through Congress. So, it should have never been in place to begin with.

From all the chatter about how this will be the end of the US and how the US can no longer be a world leader in clean energy and, hold on a sec, I want to look up exactly what Cuomo sent in mail yesterday... "This reckless decision has devastating repercussions not only for the United States, but for our planet." What a load of horse **** that is.

That's chicken little talk. Nothing Trump has done around this stops anything happening in the country. He didn't say that the US was no longer allowed to advance green energy or to continue innovations that lead to a better environment. The only thing he did was to not allow foreign powers to dictate how the US will spend it's money and how the US will produce energy.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 2 Jun, 2017 11:52 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
The only thing he did was to not allow foreign powers to dictate how the US will spend it's money and how the US will produce energy.
Similar it is and has been with other international treaties agreements, conventions, like Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, Mine Ban Treaty, Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, Convention on the Rights of the Child, Convention on the Law of the Sea ...
All those were never ratified (some signed, though).
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Fri 2 Jun, 2017 11:55 am
@Walter Hinteler,
A "treaty" called Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women can't possibly be serious.
McGentrix
 
  -2  
Fri 2 Jun, 2017 11:57 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Not sure what your point is here Drax. I don't believe Obama signed any of those during the twilight of his term. Did those force the US to pay billions of dollars to third world nations and shackle the US economy?
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McGentrix
 
  -3  
Fri 2 Jun, 2017 11:59 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

A "treaty" called Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women can't possibly be serious.


They're liberals dude.

http://www.un.org/womenwatch/daw/cedaw/
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 2 Jun, 2017 12:11 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
A "treaty" called Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women can't possibly be serious.
I wrote it with the correct term, "Conventition".
Signed by the U.S. in 1980, entered into force in 1981. Number of states parties: 187 (Fellow non-ratifiers: Palau, Iran, Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan, Tonga)
 

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