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The Art of cartoonists

 
 
msolga
 
Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 07:55 am
Are cartoonists artists?
I think the really talented ones are.
I'm a great fan of Oz cartoonists. There are so many of them!
Anyway, I like the idea of a thread to celebrate the work of great cartoonists, & the Art Forum appears to be the most suitable place, at A2K. Feel free to post yours here!

Here's one of my all time favourites. It makes me smile every time I see it:

http://www.judyhoracek.com/images%20-%20screenprints/WWA%20print400px.gif

It's produced by Oz cartoonist, Judy Horacek
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 07:58 am
Not only are they artists, some of the really good ones are philosophers, political commentators, and/or comedians. I think that cartooning is a very important "right out there" art!
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panzade
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 07:59 am
I love Pat Oliphant for political cartoons...and the New Yorker publishes fine cartoons.
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:00 am
Any links, examples of their work to post here, panzade?
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:01 am
Here's the Judy Horacek web site:

http://www.horacek.com.au/home.htm
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:03 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
Not only are they artists, some of the really good ones are philosophers, political commentators, and/or comedians. I think that cartooning is a very important "right out there" art!


Me, too, Phoenix! Are you going to share some of your favourites with us?
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Portal Star
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:07 am
I think Crumb is a really good draftsman.

It seems like arguing whether or not something is "art" is a moot point, being that there is no logical way to navigate that argument.
Is cartooning a good and valuable thing to society? I think so. Is it honorable? Depends on the cartoonist.
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J-B
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:10 am
Nobody can deny that catoonists are artists.
They are the artists of our time Smile

I support catoonists though i am not a catoon fan Smile
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:13 am
Just about every Australian knows Michael Leunig ... or Leunig for short. He's into just about everything - religious commentary, poetry, philosophical musings, religion ....

Here's one of his recent political efforts:

http://members.optushome.com.au/hark/lostleunig2.jpg
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Vivien
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:31 am
great cartoons. Yes they are one branch of art


I love the work of Raymond Briggs - The Snowman, The Bear, one about nuclear war - When the Wind Blows - very dark and grim.

Like the Pulitzer prize-winning MAUS, WHEN THE WIND BLOWS was a truly massive story told with very small pictures. It follows the lives of Jim and Hilda, now retired, who face first the imminent threat of a nuclear war, and then the devastating fall out of a nuclear strike. The cosiness of the couple's daily life is brutally undercut by the bleak double-page spreads portraying the mechanisms of war being deployed against them in a distant land.

Throughout the story we see no other characters, and the sense of claustrophobic doom is compounded as the couple waste away before the reader's eyes from the fallout. Jim and Hilda are first confused and confounded by the woefully inadequate and inaccurate government advice they receive, and are then irradiated by a technology and a conflict they don't even comprehend. The result is both touching and terrifying.

Briggs said of this work, "I hoped WHEN THE WIND BLOWS might strike a blow for the much-despised medium of strip cartoons. It showed that it could deal with a profoundly serious subject in a straightforward way and make a valid point."


He did a wonderful book in cartoon form of his his parents life, funny and incredibly sad in turn. (Ethel and Ernest)




Also Giles - i specially loved Grandma the battleaxe!
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:36 am
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~paulma/images/leunigpic1.gif
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:42 am
Vivien

Sounds really good! Wish we could actually see them, but ... Very Happy
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panzade
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:43 am
I love Roz Chast...she might be from Oz



Bad Mom Cards Collect The Whole Set! (Bad mother trading cards. One says mother gave child orange soda one morning when she ran out of orange juice. Another mother promised to take her child to the mall after school, and then didn't, etc.)





http://www.cartoonbank.com/assets/1/32753_m.gif
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panzade
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:48 am
Oliphant is one of Oz's greatest cartoonists although he's been in the states for so long. My father was friendly with him.


http://images.ucomics.com/comics/po/2004/po040922.gif
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:48 am
panzade

They look really bright & lively drawings. I'm my I'm trying my best to read the words ... Smile
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panzade
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:49 am
Sorry mssolga, New Yorker magazine is coy about stealing their cartoons.
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bigdice67
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:51 am
Like phoenix just said, cartoonists are sometimes philosophical, and one that comes to mind is George Watterson, the artist of "Calvin and Hobbes". Watterson made "C&H" very philosophical IMO.
http://www.tomscoffeehouse.com/images/ch950109.jpg
Ok, maybe not all of it...
http://www.mech.utah.edu/~ljohnson/graphics/calvin1.jpg
But some stuff made me really think out loud...
http://www.ece.cmu.edu/~pvv/ch.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:52 am
Wow, a really dramatic Oliphant, panzade! Your dad sounds really interesting ... Does he know lots of arty types? I remember his painting that you posted a while back.
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panzade
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:52 am
good choice Travis...Calvin & Hobbs are legendary
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panzade
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 08:52 am
About Pat Oliphant

No one is safe from the acid brush of Pat Oliphant, acknowledged by many as the nation's most influential political cartoonist.

A master of what he calls "confrontational art," Oliphant spares neither the liberal nor conservative, sinner nor saint.

As the most widely syndicated political cartoonist in the world and a winner of the Pulitzer, he produces work that is as visually stunning as it is metaphorically powerful.
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