Why Black Lives Still Matter

Spoken like someone who has absolutely no idea when it comes to using a firearm... I know you probably grew up with the Lone Ranger, Bonanza, and Gunsmoke. But in real life you can't shoot the gun out of somebody's hand or shoot him in the arm or leg to disable them. Doing so is irresponsible and will only result in bullet placement ending up in unintended targets or a dead cop. All police, military, and combat Shooters are taught to shoot for the largest Target and that is Center Mass.

In 2012 there were 12.1 million arrests by U.S. police... there were 410 justifiable shootings by police in the same year.

So it would appear to any reasonable and prudent individual that that descalation must be occurring at a more than acceptable rate.

The problem is for the last 2 years the media has been focusing on the upcoming election and their agenda is to elect Hillary Clinton. They know as well as others that Hillary's support in the black community may not be as strong as it was for Obama when he was elected because blacks know that Bill and Hillary were responsible for the crime Bill and for mandatory sentencing and the increase of the black prison population. They are doing everything possible to inflame the black community by overexposing when a black person is shot by police in an effort to gain more black voters. That's why Soros has funded the black lives matter movement.

As the media gins up the black community after every police shooting of a black person it Fosters and reinforces the attitude in the black community to resist the police at every opportunity... Which of course causes the loss of more black lives at the hands of police. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy.


But if you want to see less people killed by police during arrest there's a very simple Axiom...


COMPLY AND YOU WILL NOT DIE

I'll have to track down my high school gun safety instructor (police officer) and let him know he didn't know anything.

I'm not old enough to be of the Lone Ranger etc demographic.

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Any explanations why those ME bombers were shot in the shoulder/leg? why white suspects are shot in the shoulder/leg?

Were those officers doing it all wrong?

There you have it folks, a cautionary tale from an authoritarian who will blow your brains out if you are too slow following your lord and masters request. How big of a jerk do you have to be to actually say "COMPLY AND YOU WILL NOT DIE". You'd be a massive jerk, just like gooey.

So I guess your alternative is to suggest that when a black person Encounters of police officer in the performance of his duties he should commit the crime of resisting arrest and then hope that he's not shot when that resistance elevates to the point of the officers perception of danger.

Of course as a liberal you would Advocate that line of thinking because it allows you to continue the false narrative that the police are racist killers who arbitrarily hunt down black people.

The end result of course is to nationalize and federalize all police in the United States where are law enforcement agencies will lose all integrity for the sake of politics. Just like what is happening to the FBI and the immigration service presently.

And your name calling is just another example of how the liberal left tries to end the discourse with an emotional hysterical pejorative epithet when their argument is unreasonable and specious.

As usual, you are shoving words in my mouth that I would never use, your keen sense of deduction has failed you as well. Apparently your staggering sense of righteousness allows you to fashion out of thin air negative values you just hope others hold. And I called you a jerk, but I do admire your Rushonion ability to describe it as "discourse with an emotional hysterical pejorative epithet" especially when your comments are high hysterical unreasonableness and of course specious. By the way, you should never flatter yourself that you can engage in discourse, what you display for all to see is not discourse it's your way of asserting your authority. Good luck with that Mr. Big Deal

I'm not shoving words in your mouth I said comply and you will not die but you seem to think only a jerk would say that BTW that was actually said by a black talk show host.

So if you're not calling for people who are encountered by the police to comply with their lawful orders then you are advocating for resisting arrest which is a crime.

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

You must have played too much football without a helmet if you think I am advocating 'resisting arrest'. I find it chilling to see the videos of people "complying" with a police order only to be killed anyway. What I think might be better is for people to pray if they are stopped for a broken taillight they don't run into another peace officer such as yourself who believes he can execute people on the spot.

Doesn't make you wonder what kind of psychological testing is performed prior to their recruitment?

Or maybe there are no tests performed ever at all.

It’s Time to Get Over Your White Feelings and Start Taking Action for Black Lives
By Ann Friedman

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/08/showing-up-for-racial-justice-white-feelings-black-lives.html

There’s a protest sign I’ve seen at several marches and sit-ins this summer that reads, “Black lives matter more than white feelings.” If, like me, you’re a white person who believes deeply that black lives matter, it’s easy to read that sign as commentary on other white people — the ones who support Donald Trump because they “feel voiceless.” The Republican National Convention a few weeks ago was essentially thousands of white people in a stadium expressing their anger and fear. As Newt Gingrich said afterward on CNN, “Liberals have a whole set of statistics, which theoretically may be right, but that’s not where human beings are.”

But the white feelings called into question by that protest sign aren’t just the anger and alienation of Trump supporters. They are also the fear and guilt and perceived helplessness of white people who want to end the epidemic of state-sanctioned violence against black Americans. People like me and you and every white person we know who posts messages of grief each time a new name becomes a hashtag. It’s easy for us to stand back and criticize Trump supporters for putting anger and fear above facts. It can be much harder for white people who support racial justice to realize just how hung up on our own feelings we are.

This week, the Movement for Black Lives published an ambitious and specific policy agenda that acknowledges, “neither mainstream political party has our interests at heart.” It’s time for left-leaning white people to admit it: More action is required. Most of us are letting fear and shame and guilt get in the way of working for change on behalf of black lives. And it doesn’t have to be that way.

Luckily, we have help in the getting-over-our-feelings department. The national organization Showing Up for Racial Justice, which has affiliate chapters in almost every state, supports ongoing Black Lives Matter work in ways that explicitly address, direct, and utilize white activists. SURJ is like training wheels for white people who are new to racial-justice activism. The organization offers a structure where white people can pester other white people with their questions and concerns about how to show up. At every turn, SURJ also reminds its members to take their cues from black organizers — which is, as Collier Meyerson writes at Fusion, something that white allies have often had a hard time doing.

I saw this work in real time. Recently, I made plans with a friend to attend the L.A. Police Commission meeting, where there had been a large protest the week before. But I noticed that the latest email from White People for Black Lives, my local SURJ affiliate, didn’t mention the commission meeting. It directed white protesters to the ongoing occupation at L.A. City Hall, where activists have been camped out for weeks demanding that the mayor fire Police Chief Charlie Beck. (There is a similar occupation under way in New York City.)

Sending us to City Hall was a deliberate choice: Black organizers wanted to be present at the commission meeting, so they had asked white supporters to hold the sit-in space at City Hall. This was explained to us by a white organizer wearing a White People for Black Lives T-shirt who approached us right away at City Hall and briefed us on how to participate in the protest. That level of clarity, knowing a specific answer to the question “How would black organizers like me to show up as a white person right now?” came as a relief. But when I felt that relief, I realized I’d been hung up on my feelings. At some level, I’d been worried that I wouldn’t know what to do when I arrived, or that my presence wouldn’t be welcome.

“Blacks know we need whites in this fight. And organizers, I think, also genuinely want whites around,” Meyerson told me over email. “It’s such a basic and universal thought among blacks, but one that I think hasn’t penetrated the white liberal consciousness yet. And understandably so, when society is designed to keep us strangers.”

In other words, that feeling of hesitation was a signal to go and get involved. Many of us don’t have a lot of firsthand experience with social-change movements. We’re pretty good at expressing ourselves on Facebook, but we don’t routinely walk around with our views written on a sign. When you couple that unfamiliarity with most white people’s discomfort with being in the minority in a crowd, even those of us who want to show up at a protest can be hesitant. But that discomfort is itself a pretty good case for showing up. It tells us that there’s work to be done, and we have an obligation to help do it. “White people ought to challenge themselves to engage in more spaces of risk and difference,” organizer Umi Selah told the Washington Post.

There can be powerful lessons in these relatively insignificant white feelings of unease. Some low-level alienation at a Black Lives Matter event is nothing compared to a lifetime of being relegated to outsider status by the systems that run this country. “Empathy isn’t just remembering to say that must be really hard — it’s figuring out how to bring difficulty into the light so it can be seen at all,” writes Leslie Jamison in her book The Empathy Exams. “Empathy isn’t just listening, it’s asking the questions whose answers need to be listened to. Empathy requires inquiry as much as imagination. Empathy requires knowing you know nothing.” Acknowledging our feelings in the service of moving beyond them can lead to not just greater empathy but more powerful action.

“One thing is for sure,” writes Meyerson, “it’s the responsibility of whites interested in ending racism to sacrifice their comfort, ask questions, and take cues and orders from black people without relying on us to show you and tell you how.” We white people need to actively work on rising to these responsibilities. And, in order to address a problem as widespread and entrenched as anti-black racism in America, first we’ve got to get past our own feelings.

I 'm not sure what kind of testing it was during my recruitment into the USAF, but I remember it to be pretty extensive.

I promise that if you ignore that troll I will never accuse you of tacit agreement.

Ignore the troll.

We have no way of knowing if gooey was ever really in law enforcement. He just huffs and puffs here. I think most of us know police men and women and many of them are in our families. It would be a smart move to raise the pay levels of active police to attract better candidates. If we don't we are always going to be dealing with swaggering cowboys with limited reasoning skills. Sadly, we don't often hear about the truly great cops, too often folks like gooey are always popping up unveiling himself as a pretentious fool with a Judge Bean complex. It's unfair to paint all police with the gooey attitude.

If you're not advocating for them to follow the lawful orders of a police officer then you're advocating for them to resist arrest there is no middle ground here.

Hey, why don't you post some of those videos where people are complying an they'rejust executed.

Re: giujohn (Post 6272540)
And you are race baiting, pimping denialism and perpetuating a ******* disgrace.

If we let the this thing get too heated, the troll will get this thread locked. Make sure to vote him down and report him. Then ignore him. They locked the original BLM thread because two trolls got some of us to reply in kind.

Yeah let's see me get reported and I'm the one that gets suspended although she's the one that's calling me a jerk that's how it works here in land of the liberal... But let's not be coy Bob you're the freaking moderator here I showed that to be conclusive.

You don't hear about the good cops because that's the norm and it's not Sensational enough for the media and you bleeding heart liberals to focus on. It also doesn't fit your narrative that cops are racist killers... You need that for your Progressive agenda to federalize police in the United States.