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How will Trump handle losing the election?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 03:13 pm
@oralloy,
The republicans have done all they could to defame the Clintons.
If the legal system with the total support of the republicans couldn't find anything to charge them with, your presumptions are beyond reality.
Maybe you have more influence than the republican party. Go for it.
revelette2
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 03:28 pm
Nate Silver is talking about a Trump comeback in New Hampshire.

Election Update: Watch New Hampshire For Signs Of A Trump Comeback
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 03:32 pm
Post-election prediction.

A lot of Republicans in office or in positions of institutional influence are still continuing to support Trump even after all the recent revelations about his behavior towards women. That support comes in varying degrees but only in a relatively few instances has it moved to a position of total rejection of Trump as unfit.

Ted Cruz, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Marco Rubio, Pense, Christie, Liz and Dick Cheney, and major leaders of the Christian Right are included here.

So the question is: What will these people do and say, how will they present themselves, their values and reasons and their behavior, after even more revelations are published and after Nov 8 when Trump loses big and those losses effect down ticket races in a big way?

Apologies? Sincere remorse? Honest moral/ethical reflections shared with American citizens or their constituents? Har dee har har har. Overall, we will see almost none of this, I predict.

Rather more certain will be a defensive and justifying posture that forwards the following line - "I was (or we were) deeply sickened by this man. But we were forced to act to preserve America and never has America faced a candidate who so threatened our values and traditions and who threatened the very existence of America as Hillary Clinton. We had no other choice once Trump was our candidate."

And that story will not only be used to excuse these disgusting people but will also serve as a springboard to their next strategy - to continue demonizing and obstructing everything the Clinton administration sets out to accomplish.



oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 03:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
If the legal system with the total support of the republicans couldn't find anything to charge them with, your presumptions are beyond reality.

Facts aren't presumptions, even when they are highly inconvenient to your position.


cicerone imposter wrote:
The republicans have done all they could to defame the Clintons.

I'm curious. Is this another whitewash of Bill Clinton raping people?
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 04:01 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Facts aren't presumptions, even when they are highly inconvenient to your position
Nice comeback, however it still bears nothing in fact or evidence.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 04:18 pm
@farmerman,
When someone dodges a fact, it is not necessary to repeat the fact. All that is needed is a reminder that dodging a fact does not invalidate it.
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revelette2
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 05:13 pm
@blatham,
I think you got it right on the nose on all counts.
revelette2
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 05:22 pm
There is no justification for supporting/voting for this man and my disgust for supporters has far outstripped "deplorables" as to be not even in the same universe.
Quote:

GREENSBORO, N.C./LOS ANGELES, Oct 14 (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said on Friday accusations of sexual misconduct against him were part of a plot to discredit him after two more women came forward with allegations that he had groped them.

The accusations - including one from a contestant on his reality show, "The Apprentice" - coincided with the release on Friday of a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll taken on Oct. 7-13 showing him trailing Democrat Hillary Clinton by 7 percentage points among likely voters in the Nov. 8 election.

Summer Zervos, who competed on the television show's fifth season in 2006, gave a news conference with celebrity attorney Gloria Allred in Los Angeles, saying Trump kissed her, touched her breast and tried to get her to lie down on a bed with him during a 2007 meeting about a possible job.

"He put me in an embrace and I tried to push him away. I pushed his chest to put space between us and I said come on man, get real. He repeated my words back to me, 'Get real,' as he began thrusting his genitals," Zervos said.

Zervos said she thought Trump was going to take her to dinner to discuss a job, but the meeting took place in his bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel, where he later ordered a club sandwich for them to share.

"I wondered if the sexual behavior was some kind of test and whether or not I had passed" by rejecting it, she said, but Trump later offered her a job at a golf course for half the salary she had requested.

Separately, the Washington Post published an interview with a woman who said Trump put his hand up her skirt in a crowded New York nightclub in the early 1990s in an unwanted advance.

"He did touch my vagina through my underwear, absolutely," Kristin Anderson said in a video interview on the newspaper's website. "It wasn't a sexual come-on. I don't know why he did it. It was like just to prove that he could do it," she told the paper. Anderson could not be reached for comment.


More at the source



cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 05:26 pm
@revelette2,
Doesn't it boggle your mind that people can still support Trump? Do these supporters have relatives? Mothers, sisters, and/or wives? They would approve of any man doing to them what Donald did to girls and women? Sorry, I don't "get it."
snood
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 05:37 pm
@revelette2,
Quote:
There is no justification for supporting/voting for this man and my disgust for supporters has far outstripped "deplorables" as to be not even in the same universe.


I get the disgust. I also feel terror. Abject fear that maybe people I work with,
know, or just pass on the street might have in their hearts whatever twisted thing it is that would allow them to try to make this man president.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 05:48 pm
@revelette2,
Quote:
I think you got it right on the nose on all counts.

We'll see.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 07:01 pm
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:
There is no justification for supporting/voting for this man and my disgust for supporters has far outstripped "deplorables" as to be not even in the same universe.

Oh please. But it is perfectly OK for Bill Clinton to do the exact same thing to Paula Jones and Kathleen Willey?

And OK for Bill Clinton to RAPE Juanita Broaddrick?

And OK for Hillary to try to intimidate Juanita Broaddrick after Bill raped her?

And OK for Hillary to use unscrupulous tactics to wreck the life of a rape victim and then laugh about it?

I know hypocrisy is fundamental to being a liberal, but really. This fake outrage about Mr. Trump is just too much to take seriously.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 07:02 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Doesn't it boggle your mind that people can still support Trump? Do these supporters have relatives? Mothers, sisters, and/or wives? They would approve of any man doing to them what Donald did to girls and women? Sorry, I don't "get it."

If the Left wants anyone to take their sanctimonious whining about sexual assault seriously, they need to start holding their own people accountable when they are guilty of it.
snood
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 07:08 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:
Doesn't it boggle your mind that people can still support Trump? Do these supporters have relatives? Mothers, sisters, and/or wives? They would approve of any man doing to them what Donald did to girls and women? Sorry, I don't "get it."

If the Left wants anyone to take their sanctimonious whining about sexual assault seriously, they need to start holding their own people accountable when they are guilty of it.

You mad, bro? Your big Combover Cheeto is losing...
YUGE!
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 07:19 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
You mad, bro?

I'm repelled by your complete lack of ethics and morality.

Have you no decency at all? I mean really.


snood wrote:
Your big Combover Cheeto is losing...
YUGE!

Maybe. Maybe not. We'll see what happens on election day.
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Ragman
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 07:50 pm
What's this about Trump losing an erection?
Seriously?
glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 08:03 pm
@Ragman,
Ahahhahahahahahaaaaahahahahah I can always count on Ragman, thanks pal
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Blickers
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 08:15 pm
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:
Oh please. But it is perfectly OK for Bill Clinton to do the exact same thing to Paula Jones and Kathleen Willey?

And OK for Bill Clinton to RAPE Juanita Broaddrick?

And OK for Hillary to try to intimidate Juanita Broaddrick after Bill raped her?

And OK for Hillary to use unscrupulous tactics to wreck the life of a rape victim and then laugh about it?

I know hypocrisy is fundamental to being a liberal, but really. This fake outrage about Mr. Trump is just too much to take seriously.

The state trooper who escorted Paula Jones up to meet Clinton in his room at the hotel has said that Paula Jones kept saying,"If the Governor wants me to be his girlfriend, I'll be his girlfriend", as he led her away from the room after the encounter was over.

Juanita Broaddrick, who was cheating on her husband at the time of the encounter with someone else she later married, made allegations but there is no evidence of this lip biting she was talking about. The person she met later who said Juanita Broaddrick told her about the incident had a cousin slated for execution for a crime and Clinton turned down all appeals and had him executed. In case you don't see the relevance, that means that Clinton could have saved her cousin from execution and didn't do it, so she has every reason in the world to hate Clinton's guts. Juanita Broaddrick later went to a party the Clintons were attending and said that Hillary was cold to her, how intimidating.

KathleenWilley, who knew Clinton from way back, had a husband who had committed a crime and was going to jail, and she came to ask Clinton for a high paying job while her husband was behind bars. She didn't get such a job. And she had good reason, (by her lights), to dislike Clinton for that too.

Let us also not forget Troopergate. This was the instance where Arkansas State Troopers came forward to outline all kinds of stories about how Clinton would have them stop the car and then go into apartments for meetings with women. It turned out that the troopers were approached by Cliff Jackson, a longtime enemy of Clinton's in Arkansas, to make up sex stories on Clinton in return for a share of royalties on a book he was writing about their stories. The book was never written or published.

This is a far cry from Trump volunteering that he likes to walk to women and "grab them by the pussy", followed by large numbers of women coming forward saying that Trump has indeed, for many years, been grabbing women there.

snood
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 08:18 pm
Quote:
I'm repelled by your complete lack of ethics and morality.


The above was written by an acolyte of that paragon of virtue, that living monument to chivalry, that ethical standard-bearer... Donald John Trump!!!



Sucker's so dumb he prolly doesn't even get the irony....
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 14 Oct, 2016 08:43 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
Sucker's so dumb he prolly doesn't even get the irony....

My IQ is trillions of times higher than yours.

(You're actually pretty stupid, since you brought the subject of intelligence up.)
 

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