McG -- There's a huge difference between people who are genuine and those who are so false that you can almost see their skin moving in a different direction when they walk. Although Bush has given his opponents much to doubt as the promulgator of particular policies, the negatives you're hearing and reading come also from experience of human behavior: the face, the style, the choices. People aren't separate from their personal histories, their appearance -- their manner of speaking and behaving around others. Quite apart from the appalling actions taken by the Bush administration, Bush is a man many have had contact with or know about personally, directly or indirectly. This is not a good person and not a person with a good reputation, personally or professionally.
c.i., he may change the country into a totalitarian dictatorship - but, a fascist regime for sure! Need to get rid of him while we still can.
Yes, BillW, right on! There is still time...no one can sit this one out this time! Agitate, demonstrate and donate in whatever you can to make Dubya a one-termer just like his Daddy...
USA
Economy downs Bush's reelection support
Posted: Wednesday, June 25, 8:24am EDT
President Bush basks in high approval ratings, but when potential voters are pressed about giving him a second term, the numbers drop, a reflection of worries about the struggling economy and a general wait-and-see attitude so far ahead of the election.
Bush's overall approval ratings have remained at 60 percent or higher in most polls since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
But now that the electorate is turning to thinking about Bush's handling of the economy and wondering who the Democrats will nominate, the president's reelect numbers are at 50 percent or lower in several polls.
In a recent CNN-USA Today-Gallup poll, 50 percent said they would vote for Bush and 38 percent backed the unknown Democratic candidate, with the rest undecided. Those numbers aren't very different from those garnered by Bush's father in June 1991, when the commander in chief was praised for the US success in the Persian Gulf War and the Democrats were scrambling for a candidate.
The current poll also found that 37 percent of Democrats approve of Bush's job performance, but only a third of those Democrats who approve would vote to reelect him. Among independents, the reelect numbers weren't as high as the approval ratings.
Bush's reelect numbers are even lower in the Ipsos-Cook Political Report tracking poll, which showed a drop for the president from April to June, a time when the nation's focus shifted from the US-led war against Iraq to the economy, Medicare, and tax cuts.
He figures he can get back up there with a small war, maybe Syria - save the big one for nearer to election - Iran!
BILLW wrote:Bush is the grossest, most vile and evil man ever to walk the earth.
McGentrix wrote:
Bill, that's just silly. Especially when Hillary can still walk...
Gee, I dunno ... evidence suggests that Hillary in fact may not
BE a man.
The evidence is not 100% sure though. :wink:
Not that there is anything wrong with that, right bill?
Like I find wrong in people, of course not - we are all victims of our environment, social order and genes
Bi-polar
Quote:Gee, I dunno ... evidence suggests that Hillary in fact may not BE a man.
There has been some talk the same may be said of Bush.
Well, I suspect both of them have the correct chromosomes, it's just that Hillary is captain of her ship and Bush is being cabin boy.
I think of him more as Cheney's lap dog...
D'artagnan
Does that mean he does a mean lap dance
au1929 wrote:D'artagnan
Does that mean he does a mean lap dance
Guess we'd have to ask Cheney that question!
Re Bush on "revisionist history": Wanna bet he has no idea of what the term really means?
Since decisions about whether to return Bush to office will depend not only on the final outcome of the discovery and debate about Bush's honesty but on what we've already observed, we'll have to make up our minds now based on his performance to date. It's already pretty easy to document distortions, secrecy, and prevarication even if we use only his campaign promises -- and there will undoubtedly be a great deal more evidence before voting time in 2004.
History will have the final say, but many voters believe that Bush has already shown his colors -- and they aren't pretty. We can expect a final two-week blitz during the Bush campaign this time -- that's what they did in 2002. We don't have the money to play the same game, but Bush's opponents are increasingly heard on the airwaves and that may make a significant difference during the next 17 months.
I believe we can measure our ability to hold the public's attention by our (proven!) ability to keep many pro-Bushies coming back day after day to A2K to argue and reiterate and argue again. They aren't feeling very secure -- that's clear... and that's GOOD!!
Tartar's all over it.
I sense that all these simmering pots are going to come to a full rolling boil just in time for Dubya to have to take responsibility for ALL of it--the lies about the war which is degenerating into a nightmare of an occupation; an economy with more unseen surprises than a sack of snakes, unresponsive to rate cuts and tax cuts; and meanwhile the corporate hogs (Bush's benefactors) continue refusing to invest and hire, keeping themselves content by selling their stocks while the market runup draws back in the small investor for the inevitable squashing, etc., etc., etc.
(That was quite run-on sentence, wasn't it? :wink: )
Yes, the conservatives are quite nervous--with good reason.
Genuine conservatives (not a commodity we've seen much of in these pages!) are worried about the lying problem, PDiddie. I mean comfortable generally unquestioning middle and upper middle class people for whom lying by Clinton, lying in the Reagan administration (Central America etc.) came as a real shocker. They don't like lying; they don't like deficits; they don't like spending. So they're finding it very hard to love Bush these days.
The radicals and reactionaries (now those guys are here and there and everywhere) won't listen to reason, truth, or any bothersome facts, so we can put them in Bush's corner.
But the most interesting group to me are the ones I see and hear a lot of in this piece of geography are the far right conservatives, Baptists, and Constitutionalists and sometime-Libertarians who are forming a kind of polite alliance with Liberals (who'd a thunk it) to get "Satan" out of the White House. That's the group which gets my hearing these days -- enjoy watching them put it all together, see them using the same websites many liberals use, hear them quote from the Guardian (yup!), and submerge their dislike of internationalists well below the venom they feel towards Bush. Nothing like a lover betrayed for splashy vengeance...!
