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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

 
 
BillW
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 11:52 am
Bush eating a pretzel?
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 12:37 pm
Bush throwing up a pretzel, Bill.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 12:42 pm
I never understood how he only lost consciousness from choking on the pretzel (and didn't actually....you know...die.)

The story claimed he came to with his dogs looking at him.

Did he dislodge the portion he choked on when his head hit the coffee table? That would be a serendipitous coincidence.

There was always more to this story than was reported, IMHO...
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 01:34 pm
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There was always more to this story than was reported, IMHO...


True about everyting in the man's life!!!!!!!!!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 02:14 pm
PDid, YOu bring up a very interesting idea; if he should die, what would happen to the US and the world at large? c.i.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 02:33 pm
A person closer to the inner circle than the unPresident would take over - Evil or Very Mad
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 03:47 pm
Cheney crumps on the first day, we get Hastert?
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 03:47 pm
Makes ya real proud to be an amurrican don't it.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 04:05 pm
Doesn't seem to increase our benefits or advantages. Awe, shucks! c.i.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 04:12 pm
Well, Cheney's already COO--err, President, so then the only thing I would be worried about is his pacemaker, because I don't think Denny Hastert can handle the job...
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 04:14 pm
Who's next? DeLay or Powell?
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2003 10:24 pm
I think it is still Haig
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2003 05:28 am
Pass me a shot, Blatham. I'm gonna need it.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2003 06:16 am
Couple of questions -- particularly for those of you who have TV:

1. Ashcroft will be testifying this morning (C-Span) to his old colleagues in the Senate on the subject of "security" measures and the Patriot Act. He has, in the past, been handled in a very cuddly way by his old pals. Please check and see if the attitude is changing.

2. The Moussaoui prosecution is full of lies and distortions -- and now edited and altered "evidence." What's going on here? Shouldn't we be paying attention to how this prosecution being handled?

And this question for our overseas (and even Canadian!) friends: If a poll were taken now, how would non-Americans see America in the matter of honesty? Is America more or less honest than five years ago? Thirty years ago? Do non-Americans trust our justice system?
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2003 07:24 am
The following was written by Billy Claude Puckett, an automobile salesperson living in southern Georgia. His byline also cites his work as a former Peace Corps volunteer and a minister in the Church of Signs Following.

He is a snake handler.

So when you read his guest editorial, excerpted from a fine alternative weekly in Athens, GA called the Flagpole, and follow my link to read the whole thing, I hope you'll understand why I'm cheered in my heart this morning.

Because I am pretty certain that Billy Claude didn't vote Gore in 2000 (I am certain of this without him saying so), his commentary is the proof I needed that Dubya's base is slipping away:

Quote:
"For George W. Bush, failure has no consequences. There's always someone who'll infuse cash, do favors, or clean up a mess...The lack of consequences has led to a sense of entitlement, that has resulted in a sense of infallibility: failure becomes success because of who I am; therefore, who I am means that I can't fail."

"Everyone is right in his or her own personal vacuum. Everyone is right if there's enough money to make people think so. But when we enter the public arena, we have to contend with all those damned other people who aren't on our payroll, in our families, in need of a favor or on our A list."

"This...accounts for Bush's genuine confusion when he has to confront the lives of normal people. He has no way to understand people whose hopes and lives can crash and burn. He has no system to account for a plurality of opinion, and he has no motivation to come to terms with anything more complex than the 10-second sound bite."


Out of Touch? So What?
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2003 07:42 am
Very, very nice, PDiddie. Thanks.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2003 07:47 am
PD

Hilarious piece. Thank you.

Tartarin

Haven't seen a poll from here re trustworthiness. Certainly, the great majority of folks I associate or deal with (wide spectrum) broadly consider that:
1) George is the dumbest head of state on any horizon
2) the US administration is scary as hell (not big tough scary, but radical militarist arrogant scary)
3) they are NOT to be trusted to tell the truth

That's anecdotal, obviously, and there are exceptions but those are rare.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2003 07:54 am
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The conservative Republican majority of the 1980s exploited the dissatisfaction with the civil rights movement and the 1960s counter-culture to win the white South and parts of the ethnic North. Those areas, combined with the Republicans' traditional base in the farms of the prairies and the boardrooms of the North, gave the party a majority that lasted until the early 1990s. Since then, however, a new Democratic majority -- different from either its New Deal ancestors or its conservative Republican rivals -- has been emerging.
This new Democratic majority is rooted in the growth of a post-industrial economy. The old industrial economy was based in cities and organized around assembly-line manufacturing, farming, and mining; the new post-industrial economy is based in large metropolitan areas -- or "ideopolises" -- that include cities and suburbs and are organized around the production of ideas and services. Many of these ideopolises are found in the North and far West -- like metropolitan Boston, Silicon Valley or the Seattle area -- but they can also be found in the North Carolina Research Triangle, the Maryland and Virginia suburbs of D.C., and the Tuscon and Phoenix areas in Arizona.
During the 1980s, many of the people in these areas voted for Republicans; but in the 1990s, they began to elect Democrats, and the Democratic party itself began to change to reflect the priorities of the people who live there. They include a growing number of professionals and technicians -- from computer programmers and financial analysts to teachers and nurses.
A quarter or so of the jobs in Austin, Raleigh-Durham, Boston or San Francisco are held by these kind of workers, many of whom are women who joined the workforce since the 1960s. Plentiful, too, are low-level service and information workers, including waiters, hospital orderlies, sales clerks, janitors and teachers' aides. Many of these jobs have been filled by Hispanics and African-Americans. Together, professionals, women, and minorities -- bolstered by blue-collar workers attracted to the Democrats' stands on economic issues -- have formed powerful coalitions that now dominate the politics of many of these ideopolises
http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/7986
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2003 01:16 pm
http://www.bartcop.com/finger-bush.jpg
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2003 01:27 pm
He doesn't even have a classy "one fingered salute". But, in the end, it's the only way I would greet him - s'la vie!
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