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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

 
 
dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 09:25 am
what was george 41's polls at this point?
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 09:31 am
I don't have the numbers at hand, dyslexia, but in 92, 41 was so far behind in NY he more or less wrote it off and didn't even campaign there with much vigor.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 09:55 am
I was impressed with Gephardt, due solely to the fact that he did something different: He had an independant idea.

He is trotting a Health Plan idea around to the news talk shows. I don't know anything about it, but plan to read it soon.

Timber is right about the Dems' shortcomings, IMO-- the 'no message' being the worst problem. I'm sure they are trying to formulate something. Will listen with interest when they come up with something.

An aside: Gephardt is sort of like Gore, in that he doesn't have that indescribable thing--- 'charisma?' I think it's awful that this type of useless quality trumps more important qualities. Don't you think appearance, and TVQ and smooth public speaking are over valued in a Presidential race?
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 11:00 am
The Dems need no plan nor coherent message (although I'm sure they're working on that too, something about the economy (stupid) and health care/privacy/big brother, and of course the obvious separation of church and state). All the Dems really have to do is wait for GW/Rove to become mired in their shame over their big "success" and self-destruct right before our very eyes. If the Democrats are there with anything resembling a message, it's in the box. It's already set up and in motion. And not by the Democrats. Deja vu...... GW will do it for us and do it big time. Getting my popcorn and big Coca-Cola, sitting back for the show.
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 11:26 am
Speaking of Big Brother problems, for those of you who are not familiar with health care issues:

The following article on HIPAA appeared in the Thursday a.m.
Congressional Quarterly Homeland Security Web-based newsletter.

CQ HOMELAND SECURITY "INTELLIGENCE"
April 23, 2003, 8:35 p.m.
New Medical Privacy Law Opens Back Door to Intelligence Agencies
By Jim McGee, CQ Staff Writer

An obscure provision in a health care privacy rule that took effect last week opens the door for U.S. intelligence agencies to obtain the medical records of U.S. citizens without a court order and to share that data widely within the federal government.

The rule permits doctors, psychiatrists, hospitals and insurance
companies to release "protected health information to authorized federal officials for the conduct of lawful intelligence, counter-intelligence, and other national security activities authorized by the National Security Act (50 U.S.C. 401, et seq.)."

Beginning April 14, doctors and other health professionals began asking their patients to sign a form acknowledging they had read a lengthy explanation of the new privacy rules put in place under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) of 1996 (PL 104-191).

"We may also disclose your protected health information to authorized federal officials for conducting national security and intelligence activities, including for the provision of protective services to the President or others legally authorized," said a version of the form being used in the District of Columbia.

How a law that once was touted as a boon for patient privacy ended up laying a wider and more clearly marked highway for government agents to gather "lawful intelligence" from doctors offices, local pharmacies and hospitals is a story of competing policy goals in Congress and the deepening imprint of terrorism on the civil liberties of U.S. citizens.

At bottom, the story shows how some anti-terrorism measures, taken in response to the 9/11 attacks, can have unintended consequences for individual rights, consequences that only now are hardening into the concrete of federal regulation.

In the context of the USA Patriot Act and the Pentagon's Total
Information Awareness data-mining research program, moreover, the new medical privacy regulation raises fears that personal medical data will be widely disseminated in government intelligence circles.

"Unprecedented," privacy defenders called it. Good Intentions

When Congress passed HIPAA in 1996, it called for the creation of
federal privacy laws protecting personal medical information.

But in 1999, the Department of Health and Human Services published a proposed regulation saying that medical records could also be released, "for the conduct of lawful intelligence activities conducted pursuant to the National Security Act of 1947 (50 U.S.C. 401 et seq.)."

The notice touched off a "vigorous debate" inside the Clinton
administration, recalled Peter P. Swire. At the time, Swire was chief
counselor for privacy in the Office of Management and Budget in the Clinton White House.

Now a professor at the Moritz College of Law at Ohio State University, Swire said the Clinton administration decided the new medical privacy regulations were not "going to stand in the way of national security."

Back then, the matter generated relatively little public debate, he
said, for two reasons.

First, the provision was viewed as an exception that would be used only in special circumstances against a "terrorist or enemy of the country,"and only on a case-by-case basis.

Second, parties to the drafting worked on the assumption that the
privacy rights of U.S. citizens would be protected by the existing legal framework of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which issues warrants allowing the FBI to surveil suspected spies and terrorists with wiretaps and bugs.

In addition, the information then was largely restricted to the FBI and kept in special intelligence files that were not generally shared with other agencies.

In short, the administration decided the privacy rights of patients
would be protected except under extraordinary circumstances.

"Nothing is more private than someone's medical or psychiatric records,"President Bill Clinton said in a speech on Dec., 20, 2000, the day the final regulations were released by HHS. Into the Bush White House The Bush administration issued its own version of the regulation in October, 2002, with an effective date of April 14, 2003, with no changes to the national security provisions.

By then, of course, the events of Sept. 11, 2001 had transformed the context of privacy protections and intelligence-gathering, summed up in the rapid passage of the USA Patriot Act.

Suddenly, the FBI's safeguards for protecting sensitive foreign
intelligence information were denounced as invidious bureaucratic
"walls" that unwisely prohibited intelligence agencies from sharing
information and, it was alleged, facilitated unchecked terrorist
movements prior to the 9/11 attacks. The Patriot Act removed walls
between the FBI and CIA and authorized distribution of intelligence to all "federal law enforcement, intelligence, protective, immigration, national defense, or national security officials."

"Post 9/11, you can see how the national security exception [to the
medical privacy law] could become a back door for law enforcement access to medical records without issuing subpoenas that HIPAA usually requires," Swire said.

Because both the Clinton administration and health privacy advocates were relying on an established legal framework, governed by judges, they had focused their attention on erecting privacy protections in relation to criminal investigations by law enforcement agencies not counterterrorist intelligence gathering.

"There is a detailed road map for how law enforcement is supposed to get medical records," Swire said of the regulation. "The national security exception, interpreted broadly, could put the same data into the same people's hands without a subpoena."

In November 2002, the Homeland Security Act accelerated the trend toward unrestricted intelligence sharing and called for the use of "data-mining and other advanced analytical tools" that depended on accessing massive collections of data, both criminal and non-criminal.

Over at the Pentagon, the Defense Advanced Research and Development Agency (DARPA) took this new direction to heart and launched an ambitious data-mining research program called Total Information Awareness (TIA).

One TIA program, the Bio-event Advanced Leading Indicator Recognition Technology, or Bio-ALIRT, was designed to detect early signs, in health care data, of a slow-moving disease that might signal a biological warfare attack. An Opening Wedge
Bio-ALIRT was aimed squarely at medical charts, given the requirement that it "identify abnormal health early indicators, and mine existing databases to determine the most valuable early indicators of abnormal health conditions."

Under the new regulation, Swire said, the Pentagon might well be allowed access to millions of patient records in bulk collections â€" say, everyone treated in U.S. hospital emergency rooms over the past six months.

"What if a government agency says 'We want all of your medical records for our new national security screening program,'' Swire asked. "That issue was never debated."

Moreover, he said the new regulation permits the release of medical information to public health agencies, but does not limit what those agencies can do with the information.

"That is a loophole that could permit enormous amounts of records to go into these bioterrorism efforts," Swire said.

Watchdogs Surprised

For the time being, professional privacy advocates in Washington are nonplussed by the meaning of the new rule. Janlori Goldman, director of the Health Privacy Project, stresses that the exemption allows, but does not require, doctors to turn over records.

The Patriot Act made it easier for FBI agents to use national security letters to obtain confidential telephone records and financial reports that would otherwise be covered by privacy laws.

The medical privacy regulation does not require this step, however.

"It is looser," said Goldman. "It allows for easier access than a
National Security letter," a kind of administrative subpoena signed by an FBI official, rather than a judge.

Marc Rotenberg, president of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, a Washington, D.C.-based civil liberties watchdog, said that, as written, the regulation "is much broader" than rules governing access to financial records.

"That is just about the loosest standard that you could conceive of," he said. "That is probably without precedent. At least the privacy statutes that I am familiar with, there is at least a lot more careful cabining of that authority."

Meanwhile, doctors will remain the first line of defense in protecting
patients' privacy. Under the new rules, it is the doctors, hospitals and insurance companies who are supposed to decide if the federal agents who come to them with requests for "lawful intelligence" about a patient have a legitimate national security need to see a medical chart.

And the way things are now, Swire said, there is no judge "to make a decision." Or to stand in the way.

Jim McGee can be reached at [email protected].
Source: CQ Homeland Security
© 2003 Congressional Quarterly Inc. All Rights Reserved
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 11:32 am
Yup, I knew about that piece of skullduggery. That very day I was picking up a prescription and had to sign off on the new privacy agreement. Of course, it's hard to do without the prescription so I signed. When we talk about campaign issues, the privacy one is potent for everyone, regardless of political party. It's one the Dems should pick up on, hammer on.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 01:11 pm
Quote:
"Q: Just one other thing, if I can. Does the President know more about what Senator Santorum said? Does he have any feelings about his comments? Do they think they were inappropriate or appropriate?

Ari: I haven't personally talked to him, so I don't have anything direct from the President to share.

Q: So you all are just making a conscious decision to just keep clear of this one?

Ari: Let me put it to you this way. The President typically never does comment on anything involving a Supreme Court case, a Supreme Court ruling or a Supreme Court finding -- typically. And in this case, we also have no comment on anything that involves any one person's interpretation of the legalities of an issue that may be considered before the Court.


Wednesday's White House Press Briefing

Quote:
"Good afternoon. The Supreme Court will soon hear arguments in a case about admission policies and student diversity in public universities. I strongly support diversity of all kinds, including racial diversity in higher education. But the method used by the University of Michigan to achieve this important goal is fundamentally flawed. At their core, the Michigan policies amount to a quota system that unfairly rewards or penalizes perspective students, based solely on their race. So, tomorrow my administration will file a brief with the court arguing that the University of Michigan's admissions policies, which award students a significant number of extra points based solely on their race, and establishes numerical targets for incoming minority students, are unconstitutional."


--Dubya, who made a liar out of Ari FLIEscher again

Bush Discusses Michigan AA Case
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 01:22 pm
While he may have made a "liar" out of Ari he spoke a greater truism. Now if only UM can get rid of the liberal administration and tenured faculty who put these policies in place...

By the way, I was accepted at UM and chose not to attend.
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 01:29 pm
Great decision, Cjhsa. Very wise of you.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 01:33 pm
Yes, I'm thankful for Cjhsa's decision too. Though I think it would have been more politic not to apply, rather apply and then dismiss the place even if, say, Bob Jones was more tempting... ; )
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 01:48 pm
I went to a much better school, thank you very much. I've long believed there's something strange in the water in Ann Arbor. Wink
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 01:55 pm
The water contains a liberal dose of floride, denouced by John Birchers and other rapscallions of limited cognitive functioning.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 01:58 pm
Actually Dys, I'm semi-serious about that. I've known lots of UM'ers and Ann Arborians over the years, and there was just something odd about every single one of them. Can't really explain it beyond that, except that perhaps it was a combination of attitude and flippance.
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 02:07 pm
Ahhhhh, flippance.........there ya go.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 02:32 pm
Care to expand on that last observation, Lola?
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 02:35 pm
Perhaps we should get back to the topic at hand.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 02:38 pm
Flippances usually wind up at much better schools. You can really tell.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 02:45 pm
Do I detect the arrogance of a UofM grad, tart?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 02:47 pm
Go ahead, get back to your topic. You'll be spending another 5.5 years discussing it.
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 02:47 pm
Not me, I went to Columbia School of Social Work, 1974
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