Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

And we of the gullible and greedy thank you, firstthought and compliment all you of like mind on your mastery of Dale Carnegie principles. I refer you to Timber's post immediately preceding. Smile

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Foxfyre WE --Can't Think for oneself -the herd Instinct - suggest you compare the Nuremberg Rallies with the recent political conventions.

The US is not ruled by a political party it is governed by duly elected representatives of the people for the peoples benefit unfortunately these representatives suffer from amnesia or serve two masters.

Time to wake the sleep giant.

Dale Carnegie your kidding, if you had said Peter Drucker you might have made some sense.

The President of the US is responsible and accountable the positions he holds and for his subordinates it is the Law under the US Code Want me to DIG IT OUT FOR YOU.

BTW I am a Scot by birth, born Glasgow. Adam Smith was educated in Glasgow University from the age of 14. In Later life it was his arguments against Mercantilism that brought about his concepts call Capitalism.
One can only ponder what he would say of todays American Capitalism.

ft :wink: :wink:

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Well firstthought, as one schooled in both Carnegie and Druckers and religious education, the universal 'we' is occasionally useful. Nevertheless, as a fellow Scot (in part) and appreciating the eloquence by which I have been insulted, "I" will forgive you for now. I can't speak for the rest of the'we' of course.

And Adam Smith would have been horrified at the massively regulated capitalism of today, but then he never experienced today's liberal Democrats. Smile

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Foxfyre I am not a democrat I am completely independent of all political parties but I do vote in every election being a conservative moderate and liberal but not all at the one time.

Bush has been a disaster, Everything he has put forward has been on a quid pro quo basis: His last idea was tax reform we did tax reform and ended up with 200 volumes of tax nonsense.

American debt stands at 22. 8 trillion US Dollars one third is owned by foreign creditors according to the last references I saw. Alan Greenspan (The Chairman of the Board of Governors of the of the Federal Reserved System -His correct title) appears more the politician than as the economist and I believe he is on record as saying if we don't have enough money we can print more.

Adam Smith would be looking at America's Boom Bust Economy from 1929 onwards which has to be balanced but not from one extreme to the other which is distruptive.

Watched the first debate?

ft Laughing

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I am more libertarian than anything else FT, and I did watch the first debate and gave Kerry the win for style and points; gave Bush the win for substance. I have disagreed with several Bush policies, but agree with him on issues of national defense and the constitutional role of the courts. As those are my number one priorities in this election, I look to Bush as the candidate most likely to get it right.

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Is ANYONE here a registered Democrat? It seems to be a stigma slightly worse than leprosy.

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I am.

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I actually do have friends and relatives who are Democrats and are proud of it. All but two are voting for Bush, however. Smile

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And I know registered Republicans who are voting for Kerry. One of 'em is quite vociferous, major volunteer, getting a lot done.

<shrugs>

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I know a couple who say they are Republicans who are voting for Kerry too. It should be a close election again.

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Yep.

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I know a few liberals that are voting for Bush.
It all evens out in Bush's favor.

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I don't think we'll know that for sure until November 3rd, BCP1. (Here's hoping we'll know THEN, though...)

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McGentrix wrote:

Is ANYONE here a registered Democrat? It seems to be a stigma slightly worse than leprosy.

Anastasia is a registered Natural Law Party voter, I believe ... <grins>

(Wonder if she'll vote?)

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Republican electoral fraud in Oregon...

Quote:

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- Oregon officials have opened an investigation into alleged improper voter registration practices, Secretary of State Bill Bradbury said Wednesday.

The investigation follows a television report in which a paid-per-registration canvasser said he had been instructed only to accept registrations from Republicans, and that he ``might'' destroy those from Democrats.

Link

Republican-assisted electoral fraud in Pennsylvania...

Quote:

Court Strikes Nader From Pennsylvania Ballot
By KATE ZERNIKE

Published: October 14, 2004

Pennsylvania court struck Ralph Nader's name from the state's ballot yesterday, declaring that nearly two-thirds of the signatures on his nominating petitions were invalid or had been forged in what the court called an unparalleled case of election fraud.

The decision, if upheld, could significantly change the equation in Pennsylvania, a swing state with 21 electoral votes. Polls show President Bush and Senator John Kerry in a dead heat, with Mr. Nader attracting about 3 percent of the electorate there. Republicans were helping him in the hope he would take votes from Mr. Kerry.. Democrats had led the challenge to the Nader signatures.

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Republican-attempted electoral fraud in Nevada...

Quote:

LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Elections officials have rebuffed an attempt by a former GOP operative to purge about 17,000 Democrats from the voter rolls in the battleground state of Nevada, where the two presidential candidates are in a dead heat.

Larry Lomax, the Clark County registrar of voters, rejected the challenge filed by former state Republican Party Chair Dan Burdish last week that claimed the Democrats should be removed from the rolls because they were inactive voters.

Lomax said Burdish could only challenge voters in his precinct, and then only if he has personal knowledge that they are inactive.

Link

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Looks Like the Dems will get the fraud investigation they are looking for.

Common knowlege in Maryland that dead people were the winning hand in the Glendening vs Sourbrey elections 10 years ago.

poor poor dems.

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Bernie you missed out on Florida:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/14/politics/campaign/14florida.html

ft Rolling Eyes

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I'm trying desperately not to infer reports in the UK newspapers 'Telegraph' and 'Times' about hints that the prime minister "may well" convert to Catholicism, that Mr Blair is making preparations for a fresh special relationship with a Catholic President Kerry.

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I'm trying desperately not to infer reports in the UK newspapers 'Telegraph' and 'Times' about hints that the prime minister "may well" convert to Catholicism, that Mr Blair is making preparations for a fresh special relationship with a Catholic President Kerry.

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Whomever you vote foe. Be wary of Kerry and the Democrats. They purchase votes with taxpayers money and promises of "equality" Whatever that means.

What I hear from Bush is: You do it.

What I hear from Kerry is. We'll do it, but we'll take from other to do so.

Simplicity people, cut out the middle man, the government. Every time the government gets money, a large portion is chopped off for all the redundant beauracracy that has to approve all the bullshit. Government screws everything up because it cannot be held liable for anything, there is no competition, therefore they set the standard according to their own whims.

It is a harsh reallity that some people will not succeed; but trying to ensure that every body succeeds will only bring misery to eveyone. Evidence: Most socialistic(european,canada) countries have a suicide rate that is almost double that of the U.S. Are they somehow more prone to suicide, or does their society just kinda suck?

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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

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