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Let's talk about replacing GWBush in 2004.

 
 
sumac
 
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Reply Thu 22 Apr, 2004 09:16 pm
Unfortunately, pain is a very effective learning agent.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 22 Apr, 2004 10:35 pm
Same thing happened to me. But that was after a junior high PE gym shower.
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2004 09:16 am
Actually, I have seen a sign saying that very thing in a Pottery Barn in New York. "You break it, you own it." Now they're trying to wiggle out of it. Well, it's too late! That's what I say! LIARS!!!!!! Laughing
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 25 Apr, 2004 10:24 am
What I don't understand is why women support GWBush, and here's why:
1. The Bush administration's efforts to overturn Roe vs Wade.
2. The Bush administration doesn't like contraception for family planning or to protect against sexually transmitted disease, and stacked his councile on HIV and AIDS with people who oppose condom use.
3. The Bush administration is no friend to working women - by weakening family leave policies and tried to eliminate overtime pay for many job categories dominated by women.
4. The Bush administration wants to cut child-care subsidies for 300,000 children.
5. The president proposed freezing welfare funding through 2008, and proposed stricter work requirements that will be costly for states to impose - with no money to cover the additional child care parents will need to work longer hours.
6. Bush's first action upon taking office was to re-instate the "global gag rule," which denies assistance to organizations providing abortion services, counseling, or education, forcing many family clinics to close - which in turn limiting women's access to contraception and HIV/AIDS services.
7. The Bush administration appointed a commission to study Title IX, the 1972 law prohibiting sex discrimination in education. The commission produced some recommendations that would have created loopholes allowing schools to give more advantage to men. Soccer star Julie Foudy and Olympic swimmer Donna De Varona, loudly denounced the report. The ensuing nationwide outcry from soccer moms and softball dads was heard at the White House, and the president decided to leave Title IX alone - one of the few victories for women's rights.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it? c.i.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sun 25 Apr, 2004 10:38 am
This president badly needs an intern aplied blow job.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 25 Apr, 2004 11:24 am
Maybe there is some hope that the women of America will begin to understand this president's "compassionate conservatism."
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Thousands Protest Bush Policies on Abortion
Sun Apr 25,10:09 AM ET Add Top Stories - Reuters to My Yahoo!


By Deborah Zabarenko

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Thousands of protesters massed on the National Mall on Sunday to show support for abortion rights and opposition to Bush administration policies on family planning and other reproductive health issues.



Hefting signs reading "Fight the Radical Right" and "Keep Abortion Legal" and wearing buttons with the slogan "Redefeat Bush," pink-shirted demonstrators flooded into downtown Washington, hours before the scheduled start of the March for Women's Lives at noon.


The abortion issue is the centerpiece of the march's broad protest against the policies of President Bush (news - web sites), including his administration's stance on funding international family planning.


The event's major sponsors include stalwarts of the abortion rights movement -- NARAL Pro-choice America, Feminist Majority, National Organization for Women (news - web sites), Planned Parenthood (news - web sites) Federation of America -- as well as the American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites), the Black Women's Health Imperative and the National Latina Institute for Reproductive Health.


Some 1,400 groups were slated to attend the event, and an international contingent with marchers from 57 countries was expected to step off to the beat of a samba band and carrying national flags.


Counter-demonstrations against abortion were also planned along the women's march route, which begins and ends on the central mall with a loop in front of the White House.


Organizers hope for a bigger turnout than a 1992 abortion rights march, which drew 500,000, according to the National Park Police, which no longer gives official crowd counts. The biggest demonstration was an anti-Vietnam War rally in 1969, which drew 600,000.


While organizers have stressed the march is nonpartisan and pointed to a contingent called Republicans for Choice, there will be voter registration during the expected seven-hour event and the rhetoric was plainly against Bush, a Republican who opposes abortion in most cases.


Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) vowed on Friday to champion abortion rights if elected. He got the endorsement of Planned Parenthood's Action Fund, the organization's political fund-raising arm.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sun 25 Apr, 2004 06:12 pm
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Brand X
 
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Reply Sun 25 Apr, 2004 06:20 pm
LOL!
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 25 Apr, 2004 09:18 pm
Roe v Wade is clearly a target of the conservative religious right. I don't know for sure what Bush has in his noggin, but that constituency is now so important to Republican votes that it's demands will continue to trump.

Folks who vote Republican for old-fashioned reasons really ought to face this one.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 26 Apr, 2004 09:19 am
Here's a typical bit from Karen Hughes...seeking to equate women's rights activism with terrorists...truly a despicable person, that one. Particularly given how happy these two were to roast folks down in Texas.

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"I think that after September 11, the American people are valuing life more and we need policies to value the dignity and worth of every life. President Bush has worked to say, let's be reasonable, let's work to value life, let's reduce the number of abortions, let's increase adoptions. And I think those are the kinds of policies the American people can support, particularly at a time when we're facing an enemy and, really, the fundamental issue between us and the terror network we fight is that we value every life."
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 26 Apr, 2004 09:33 am
".......the fundamental issue between us and the terror network we fight is that we value every life." It seems there's a disconnect between this statement and the over 10,000 dead innocent Iraqis. "Value every life?" Since when?
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Scrat
 
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Reply Mon 26 Apr, 2004 11:16 am
blatham wrote:
Roe v Wade is clearly a target of the conservative religious right.

I'd like to see Roe V. Wade overturned because it is bad law. It has nothing to do with religion. And last time I checked, the First Amendment guarantees religious people the right to play in the political arena. The liberal fixation on the so-called "religious right" reminds me of an old Monty Python sketch where the announcer imagines seeing communists peeking out of his wife's blouse.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 26 Apr, 2004 12:06 pm
Republicans have launched a smear campaign on John Kerry's military record. We're fighting back with an ad that contrasts Kerry's courageous service in Vietnam with George Bush's spotty record in the National Guard. Watch the ad and help us get it on the air today.

See Bush's and Kerry's military records in direct contrast:

(Image originally appeared here.)


Dear MoveOn member,
In 2000, the Bush camp ran a vicious "whisper campaign" which questioned whether John McCain was mentally stable after his service as a Vietnam POW.1 In 2002, Bush surrogates ran a TV ad against Max Cleland, a Democratic Senator who lost three limbs in Vietnam, that attacked Cleland's patriotism and faded his face into Osama bin Laden's.2

Now, the Republican National Committee and the Bush/Cheney campaign are pushing a story that John Kerry was not injured badly enough in Vietnam to deserve one of his three Purple Hearts. Given the gaping holes in Bush's own record of service, the attack is absurd. But if the Bush campaign wants to raise this debate, we're happy to oblige.

Today, we're launching a new 60-second ad that compares Kerry's record of courageous service in Vietnam with Bush's early departure from the National Guard. The ad concludes: "This election is about character. It's between John Kerry, who left no man behindÂ… and George W. Bush, who simply left." This is the first ad since the launch of our 50 for the Future campaign, and we need your help to get it on the air.

Watch the ad and contribute now at:
https://www.moveonpac.org/donate/warrecord.html?id=2729-1999855-FS0z7KYroxgVKn6FPSFnPA

Recently released military documents from both camps highlight the differences between the two men. George Bush, then in the National Guard, checked a box "do not volunteer for overseas."3 Then he failed to show up for a required physical, was grounded from flying, and didn't show up for several months before leaving eight months early for Harvard Business School.4

In contrast, in a letter to his Navy personnel officer, Kerry wrote "I request duty in Vietnam."5 Over the course of that service, for "brave action, bold initiative and unwavering devotion to duty,"6 he was awarded the Bronze Star and Silver Star medals. He also earned not one but three Purple Hearts, for being injured in service to our country.7

As the Associated Press reported, "Throughout his four years of active duty, Kerry's superiors gave him glowing evaluations . . . narrative comments from his commanding officers said he was diplomatic, charismatic, decisive and well-liked by his men. . . He was recommended for early promotion, and when he left the Navy in 1970 to run for Congress, his commanding officer said it was the Navy's loss."8

But unless we set the record straight, Republicans may actually succeed in misleading the public about Kerry's courageous service and deflecting the huge questions that remain about their own candidate's service. Take a look at our ad comparing the two men, and then help us get it on the air:
https://www.moveonpac.org/donate/warrecord.html?id=2729-1999855-FS0z7KYroxgVKn6FPSFnPA

George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Karl Rove have a long history of attacking their opponents' military service -- even though Bush left early, Cheney said he had "other priorities" than serving, and Rove didn't serve at all.9 If we fight back together, we can demonstrate how outrageous and hypocritical these attacks are -- and make them stop.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Mon 26 Apr, 2004 07:31 pm
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Here's a typical bit from Karen Hughes...seeking to equate women's rights activism with terrorists...

I thought that was just the NEA...didn't she get the memo?
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firstthought
 
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Reply Mon 26 Apr, 2004 08:43 pm
Bush vs Clinton
Hobitbob thats not nice trying to equate George W with Bill Clinton. According to the first lady, George W has read the newspapers from the first day of their marriage (Must have have been a short honeymoon).

Even although Bill likes a little hanky panky it was the GOP elected followers that cost the true American tax payers between US50 mil & 60mil ( believe the lawyers got the lot) But Bill did understand the meaning of the word diplomacy, George W and his little group of Vulcan haven't got a clue about it (refer to James Mann book "Rise of the Vulcans" just published) If anybody wants to know who pays corporate taxes in the US I would recommends the the Berkshire Hathaways financial Report for last year 2003. Warren Buffett has a few things to say on that subject.


C.I. That little march over the weekend: the first figures quoted was 750,000 and the chant was I believe 'don't just come to march if you are not going to vote you shouldn't be here.
Did you have plenty of fun in your little get together? (refer your PM)

Lola I see you have published your art collection in the salon. I don't understand why they are all entitled 'LOLA'

ft Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 26 Apr, 2004 08:59 pm
firstthought, Yes, we had great fun at our little get-together in San Francisco. We shared good talks, good food, and good venues - even laughed a few times. Looking forward to the next one! Wink
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 26 Apr, 2004 09:09 pm
firstthought

An error in posting, it was. Data on who is who can be found directly beneath. And...nice to see you.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Tue 27 Apr, 2004 09:54 am
A comparison of the Vietnam war recordsof Bush and Kerry.

Bush's record looks worse than the Yankees' this past weekend.
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 27 Apr, 2004 09:59 am
PD

Time and again, I see a pattern of the present RNC and friends using a strategy of accusing the opposition of precisely what they themselves are guilty of. So Kerry will be labelled with 'bad war record' (of course, Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle, etc) all managed to avoid service.

It's an interesting technique. It provides protection because even if you are caught up on what you are trying to hide/evade, you've already tarred the opposition with the same thing, so can fall back on 'everyone does it, so it doesn't mean anything'.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Tue 27 Apr, 2004 10:10 am
This particular dead horse (or should I say thoroughbred? :wink: ) is simply a loser for the Republicans, which to me makes it ever more incredible that they continue to flog it.

They simply cannot come out better in the comparison, yet continue to wail about it.

John Kerry is walking around with shrapnel in his leg and they think they're on to something about a misplaced Purple Heart.

For God's freaking sake, it is proof enough to me that the conservatives have no business making decisions about war when they do not understand the simple concept that 'if you are wounded, you are awarded'.

One of my favorite bloggers thinks it's time for Bigfoot Hughes to put her 17-year-old son where her big fat mouth is:

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But it's time for Hughes to put up or shut up. If she's going to be "troubled" by Kerry's war and anti-war heroics while rationalizing away Bush's AWOL pool volleyball adventures, then she needs to show that she -- indeed -- supports Bush's war and his handling of it. And there's no better way to do so than having her 17-year-old son enroll in the Army or Marines when he graduates from High School.

Her son doesn't graduate until Spring 2005, but he can enroll up to a year before his entry date. I did when I enlisted in the Army. And not only should he enlist, but he should do so for a combat arms slot. Not some wussy pencil-pushing gig, but a job that could see combat. Infantry, armor, engineer, airborne, artillery, special forces (like Pat Tillman), or pilot.

So how about it, Karen? Ready to put your son where your mouth is? And if not, why should other Americans put their sons and daughters through the meat grinder on behalf of your boss' botched war?
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