hobitbob wrote:Quote:I now know that Ralph Nader stands for a platform with a 100 point program, all but three points of which I hate. (The three are abolishment of the death penalty
Yup, the more smelly lower class people dead, the better. That's what made America great.
Quote:, ending the war on drugs,
True...the war on drugs has helped keep those summy loer class people in squalor where they belong!.
Quote:and the refusal to sacrifice civil rights to the war on terrorism)
Because Americans have far too many rights! Totalitarianism would be preferable.
Hobbitbob -- if the views you express in response to my post are views you attribute to me, you may want to reread my post. I quoted these three points in Nader's program as the only ones I like, not as examples of those I don't like. I have no problem with being attacked for my views. I do have a problem with being attacked for the opposite of the views I actually expressed, and I'd prefer it if you didn't do that.
No, I was commenting on how these are the views the far right, who think Bush can do no wrong, will never comprehend.
Thomas, I usually agree with your opinions, but on this score, I will agree to disagree, because the Green Party platform agrees with more of my choices as a humanitarian. There are many things wrong with any society that claims to be the richest, but doesn't offer its citizens universal health care - especially all the children. There is something very wrong when most of the wealth is accumulated by a few who enrich themselves at the cost of paying their workers substandard wages and benefits. There is something drastically wrong when unethical behavior by top officials of any company enrich themselves at the cost of their employees and investors, and they are not required to pay for their crime - even after being caught. There is something drastically wrong when minorities are given stiffer (or death) sentences for the same crimes as whites more frequently. There is something drastically wrong when blacks are stopped by police when they have committed no crime - especially when they are seen driving in luxury cars. There is something drastically wrong when this government gives tax breaks to the richest amongst us when we have a huge national debt that continues to increase. I would like to see some of these injustices reversed so that this country can pride itself as being a country of equality and justice for all. With the republicans and democrats in control of this government for the past two hundred years, we need a change that will change the politics of reelection to the politics for the people, by the people.
This link provides some of GWBush's agenda for this country - from the very first day in office. It's not that he didn't have the 'authority,' but rather what was done.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/031222/usnews/22secrecy.htm
Frightening and eye opening. Doubtless it will be ignored by the public, and the actions defended by the far right.
Impressive
Impressive piece by c.i.
Also, incl. should have been the degradation of our environment. The nuetering of stem cell research. The outsourcing of jobs and unair free trade practices that is decimating the Middle Class. The unecessary wars.
The regime is absolutely the worst one ever in power in the Republic.
What I don't understand is how and why so many don't see this.
Of course one must either be attuned to what is happening &/or directly effected by it.
I'm hoping Dean wins. Although, I fear that even if he does win he may not be able to push his agenda effectively, considering the house and senate are overwhelmingly republican. He will be playing rescue politics for the first two years, and even if he is successfull in replacing some of those republicans, a majority of republicans will remain.
To show how ignorant the American voters are, the recent poll shows GWBush's approval rating of the economy at a new high. With this kind of ill-informed American populace, we have no chance of selecting our presidents on the merit of their performance.
timber, I don't think any of the democratic candidates has any chance to beat GWBush, because they're too smart! They must come down a few notch in smarts to compete effectively in this country.
I believe in the two party system.
One party a week is not enough.
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Are the majority of Americans stupid or ignorant or both?
I Dubya gets re-elected I will figure the answer is both.
Yet another damaging mistake the liberals are making...
Well, Pistoff, there's always the possibility neither is the case. It could be simply that The Opposition is wrong It does appear plenty of folks think so. Whether or not The Opposition is wrong, The Mainstream isn't going that way. Obviously, somebody "doesn't get it", or "gets it very differently"; the reason we have these discussions is to air the differences.
I could be wrong, but I suspect The Opposition's tactics, though energizing the faithful, are bringing about a backlash, causing The Opposition Cause grievous harm. I doubt the damage is irrepairable, but I see no reason to expect near-to-mid-term amelioration. This time around, it appears The Democrats will defeat themselves. If comfort is to be drawn, it may perhaps be found in the nearly 4-decade-long recovery of The Republican Party following the Goldwater debacle. The Democrats will learn. Eventually.
Just not in time this time around, it seems.
guess I don't see the historical trend to the right, seems more like the people kinda yo-yo around the middle more often than not. I also suspect that George the younger has moved pretty far right of the middle, so perhaps he does get relected for second term, historically that would make for a pretty strong return to the left (actually the center) for the following election. Trends usually more often than not, are fads, especially in politics. Issues like due process and privacy along with health care and education will move the populace back to the center when terrorism is taken off the stage. Many americans are actually concerned about such issues as well as the environment and the future of our children. At least I hope so cause like Eisenhower said "It is easier to lead men to combat, stirring up their passion, than to restrain them and direct them toward the patient labors of peace."
So many people I know who are fiercely pro Bush: Oddly, they don't watch the news and they refuse to listen to a word contradicting the things Bush does. In other words, much of my part of the country doesn't care about facts; they just follow blindly. How do you reason with people who refuse to let you speak?
Ike was one of the smarter ones we had in this country, but can't say he was a good pres.
Bush is toast. You heard it here first.
If Bush is toast, I'll be happy to apply the "jam."
