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HURRICANE FRANCES ADVISORY NUMBER 40
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 PM EDT FRI SEP 03 2004
...OUTER SQUALLS OF DANGEROUS HURRICANE FRANCES MOVING OVER THE FLORIDA EAST COAST...WEATHER SHOULD BEGIN TO DETERIORATE
GRADUALLY...
A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA
FROM FLORIDA CITY NORTHWARD TO FLAGLER BEACH...INCLUDING LAKE
OKEECHOBEE. A HURRICANE WARNING ALSO REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS.
A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.
AT 5 PM EDT...2100Z...A TROPICAL STORM WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED FROM NORTH OF FLAGLER BEACH NORTHWARD TO FERNANDINA BEACH. A HURRICANE WATCH AND A TROPICAL STORM WARNING ARE NOW IN EFFECT FROM NORTH OF FLAGLER BEACH NORTHWARD TO FERNANDINA BEACH.
A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE MIDDLE AND UPPER FLORIDA KEYS FROM SOUTH OF FLORIDA CITY SOUTHWARD TO THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE...INCLUDING FLORIDA BAY.
Good evening. I just got through reading the 8 or so pages posted today. I've never met anyone here but I regard yall as friends and I'm certainly wishing yall well.
Frances' speed has slowed down to something like 8 mph. That is good in that it allows Floridians a bit more time to prepare. It's bad in that it lets her pick up more moisture that will end up being dumped somewhere.
Winds have declined from something like 140 to 115 mph (hence the downgrading from cat 4 to cat 3). 115 is nothing to be complacent about.
Frances is a huge storm.
Landfall is now predicted for late Saturday afternoon or evening. For those of you who have never had the experience, that is when the "eye," the center, passes over you. But the most vicious weather, the wind and the rain and the storm surges come well before (and then after) the counter-clockwise winds surrounding the eye bring it in. Some folks have already commented on that beginning to happen.
The eye of a hurricane is serenely, surrealy quiet. I went through one (Hazel:1956). It was so quiet that I could hear a dog barking in the distant silence.
Good luck everyone. We expect an essay from each of you on Sunday
I have recalled this newspaper. It can offer good information. (seriously.)
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/storm/content/weather/special/storm/
Thanks Satt...you're in San Francisco right?
Well then you stay safe from those nasty earthquakes
Yep, thanks. We got an 8:00, stinkin curfew here, and the next feederband isn't gonna be for a while. The shelters are getting pretty jammed by the sounds of it. It's still beautiful here, though, so I wonder how many people will be fooled into sepaku. I passed a couple of stick houses on the way back with signs of life still there. Fools. There is some trailer fool on tv saying God loves her and her ocean side trailer so she's not moving. RIP.
I saw it Bill...she said God would protect her. I feel for the elderly in their waterfront trailer parks. We have a lot of them here in Jensen Beach. I wouldn't be surprised if a 14 foot storm surge didn't wipe them clean away.
panzade wrote:Well then you stay safe from those nasty earthquakes
Actually, Japan has had more typhoons this year than a usual year. The latest typhoon washed away a light house (no one was injured).
Someone told me today that they had gone to the area where Charlie had caused all the devastation. Apparently, on one block, all the homes were flattened...........except for one. It was a very old cracker house, which withstood the forces of nature, and was upright and unscathed.
They don't make houses like they used to!
What's the difference? Are Pacific storms typhoons and Atlantic ones hurricanes?
Or are they just old British Air Force fighter planes?
After Andrew hit in 1992, it was pretty quickly noted that many houses lost their rooves, or were flattened because of shoddy building practices, many of which were outright violations of code. Haitat for Humanity houses, however, survived and kept their rooves on, because their standard meets or exceeds code, and adheres to notions of the best construction practices.
This is just evidence that things which ought to be learned are not, and that hard-learned lessons are quickly forgotten or ignored.
Both, Pan . . . Hawker built Hurricanes and Typhoons; and yes, both are tropical cyclonic storms . . .
I could be all wrong but it might be rotation of the storm and something with air pressure but I could be wrong without researching. go ahead and give me the wrong buzzer lol
The terms "hurricane" and "typhoon" are regionally specific names for a strong "tropical cyclone". A tropical cyclone is the generic term for a non-frontal synoptic scale low-pressure system over tropical or sub-tropical waters with organized convection (i.e. thunderstorm activity) and definite cyclonic surface wind circulation (Holland 1993).
Tropical cyclones with maximum sustained surface winds of less than 17 m/s (34 kt, 39 mph) are called "tropical depressions" (This is not to be confused with the condition mid-latitude people get during a long, cold and grey winter wishing they could be closer to the equator ;-)). Once the tropical cyclone reaches winds of at least 17 m/s (34 kt, 39 mph) they are typically called a "tropical storm" and assigned a name. If winds reach 33 m/s (64 kt, 74 mph)), then they are called:
"hurricane" (the North Atlantic Ocean, the Northeast Pacific Ocean east of the dateline, or the South Pacific Ocean east of 160E)
"typhoon" (the Northwest Pacific Ocean west of the dateline)
"severe tropical cyclone" (the Southwest Pacific Ocean west of 160E or Southeast Indian Ocean east of 90E)
"severe cyclonic storm" (the North Indian Ocean)
"tropical cyclone" (the Southwest Indian Ocean)
Storm down to Cat 2 and moving at 4mph. Slower wind, more rain. Now they're saying we might get 20-30 inches of rain. I suspect they're clueless. This thing may turnaround for all we know.
