The Democratic primary isn't anywhere as bitter as it looks online

My concern is that Trump will do better than I and everyone else expected in the general election

It's not the conservative Democrats that I'm concerned about, but the apolitical people who think that Trump is upending the system and who are inspired by his campaign.

Among the youth online I see (which is not necessarily representative, I know)

Independents are 43% of the voting public, and they do not heel to the word unite. They are from a different party... They have different priorities.

For the rest, here's your standard-issue horse, lance, and suit of armor. The windmills are that-a-way.

Good one . . . the down vote weenies suck, too, so i voted that post up.

Robert Gentel wrote:

My concern is that Trump will do better than I and everyone else expected in the general election

Yeah. I mean, you're obviously not alone in that worry. But I can't say I quite get it - even though I'm usually an incorrigible pessimist. Some of the commenters who warn about how Trump will overperform expectations say, look at how he did better in the primaries than everyone expected, he could surprise again in the general election. But the "everyone" in that sentence refers to all the pundits, politicians and regular people who were dismissing the polls. Because the polls had been showing Trump in the lead - by a lot - continuously - and since very early in the campaign (last July, in fact). The polls weren't wrong. And those same polls have pretty consistently shown Trump well behind in the general election throughout this election season.

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It's not the conservative Democrats that I'm concerned about, but the apolitical people who think that Trump is upending the system and who are inspired by his campaign.

The apolitical people who take part in elections would generally be independents, I imagine - and Trump polls horribly with independents. And a lot of the generally apolitical people who could still be spurred to vote in specific cases are women, young people, hispanics - all groups which have extremely unfavorable views of Trump, and might well be spurred to turn out this year specifically to stop him. And since you mention young people - if the polls can be trusted (and they've done allright with the global trends in the primaries), Trump's actually least popular among young voters, and most popular among the older / middle-aged. Again, who knows I suppose! I just don't see much non-anecdotal evidence for this.

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Among the youth online I see (which is not necessarily representative, I know)

Indeed. :-) If the most visibly politically engaged online youth were an indicator of how elections end up, Ron Paul would have been president. :-)

Yeah. I mean, you're obviously not alone in that worry. But I can't say I quite get it - even though I'm usually an incorrigible pessimist. Some of the commenters who warn about how Trump will overperform expectations say, look at how he did better in the primaries than everyone expected, he could surprise again in the general election. But the "everyone" in that sentence refers to all the pundits, politicians and regular people who were dismissing the polls. Because the polls had been showing Trump in the lead - by a lot - continuously - and since very early in the campaign (last July, in fact). The polls weren't wrong. And those same polls have pretty consistently shown Trump well behind in the general election throughout this election season.

Indeed. :-) If the most visibly politically engaged online youth were an indicator of how elections end up, Ron Paul would have been president. :-)

Yeah the thinking from the pundits was that polls are just a snapshot and that he'd fall to earth but he didn't. And speaking of the polls they just showed him overtaking Hillary about a week ago, so I think there is cause for concern.

As Clinton and her team certainly anticipated, hitting him hard as mentally unstable and unfit for the presidency has placed Trump in a sort of Chinese finger puzzle of his own creation. The only mode of response he knows - an escalating and bellicose round of personal attacks with increasingly hyperbolic accusations - only confirms Clinton's diagnosis. The harder he fights the tighter the charge sticks.

Today alone has been pretty crazy for Trump.

Florida AG Asked Trump for Donation Before Nixing Trump U Lawsuit

WASHINGTON (AP) — Florida's attorney general personally solicited a political contribution from Donald Trump around the same time her office deliberated joining an investigation of alleged fraud at Trump University and its affiliates.

The new disclosure from Attorney General Pam Bondi's spokesman to The Associated Press on Monday provides additional details around the unusual circumstances of Trump's $25,000 donation to Bondi. After the money came in, Bondi's office nixed suing Trump.

The money came from a Trump family foundation in apparent violation of rules surrounding political activities by charities. A political group backing Bondi's re-election, called And Justice for All, reported receiving the check Sept. 17, 2013 — four days after Bondi publicly announced she was considering joining a New York state probe of Trump University's activities.