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Are there other words which are pronounced like 'bury'?

 
 
chai2
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2016 10:12 am
I don't pronounce bury and berry the same way. Not at all.

Berry is pronounced like every, and bury is pronounced like curry.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2016 10:18 am
@tanguatlay,
They are responding based on their own accents and personal experience of the language, not accepted usage.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2016 10:20 am
@chai2,
You're telling the OP about your regional accent, not standard usage.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2016 10:37 am
From Grammarphobia.....

Not exactly Oxbridge, but interesting all the same.....

Bury similitude

MARCH 29TH, 2008

Q: My husband makes fun of me for pronouncing “bury” as “burr-y” rather than “berry.” Was this word ever pronounced my way? He also kids me about the word “crayons,” which I pronounce “crans” rather that the two-syllable “cray-ons.” Are both acceptable? Thanks for your help!

A: You’ve brought up an interesting subject: why isn’t “bury” usually pronounced the way it looks? But before I answer that, I should mention that your pronunciation of it isn’t necessarily wrong.

The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language (4th ed.) lists only the “berry” pronunciation, but Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary (11th ed.) includes an acceptable, though uncommon, variant similar to your “burr-y” version.

Now, on to why “bury” usually rhymes with “berry” rather than with “hurry” or “curry.” American Heritage has a “word history” note that says the Old English version of the word, byrgan, was pronounced something like “BURR-yun,” not so different from the way you say “bury.”

During the Middle English period (1100 to 1500), the word was spelled all sorts of ways: birien, byryn, berry, biry, burry, bewry, and so on. Likewise, the pronunciation of the first syllable was all over the place.

In the Midlands, according to the American Heritage note, the first vowel sounded like the “u” in “put”; in southern England, it sounded like the “i” in “pit”; and in the Southeast, it sounded like the “e” in “pet.”

Ultimately, the southeastern pronunciation predominated, but the standardized spelling reflected the Midlands dialect of the scribes in London.

American Heritage says “bury” is “the only word in Modern English with a Midlands spelling and a southeastern pronunciation.”

http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2008/03/bury-similitude.html
tanguatlay
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2016 10:43 am
Thanks to all of you for your response to my post.
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chai2
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2016 10:44 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

You're telling the OP about your regional accent, not standard usage.


Well I'll be dipped.

You're right.

I was on my phone when I responded before, so just typed on without checking.

I did then look up the pronunciations of both words, and was amazed that they were the same.

Whatdayaknow.
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2016 10:46 am
Bury Me Beneath The Weeping Willow - Krauss and Lovett.


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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2016 10:49 am
@Lordyaswas,
Lordyaswas wrote:

From Grammarphobia.....

American Heritage says “bury” is “the only word in Modern English with a Midlands spelling and a southeastern pronunciation.”

http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2008/03/bury-similitude.html


that is fantastic.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2016 10:54 am
@ehBeth,
Just for the record, many a Scot would say burry, and people who live in the town of Bury (near Manchester) pronounce it almost like burry, but not quite.
To my ear, anyway.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2016 12:13 pm
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2016 05:21 pm
Merry
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2016 05:29 pm
I'm not from areas where towns' names are ending with bury.

This thread has been useful.
Puzzle palace.

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maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2016 05:37 pm
@Tes yeux noirs,
What the Hell is standard English pronunciation?
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2016 06:48 pm
@maxdancona,


This is pretty close to how I pronounce these two words. I am from the Northeastern US (the only place I have found that standard English is spoken). When I say the word bury, it rhymes with curry.

Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2016 03:04 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
I am from the Northeastern US (the only place I have found that standard English is spoken).


That is hilarious. Can you say provincialism? I have encountered so many people from the northeast who sound like mobile home yokels. People from Boston really crack me up, too. Standard English is not about pronunciation.

I've never in my life heard anyone pronounce bury as though it rhymes with curry.
mark noble
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2016 11:37 am
@chai2,
Huh?
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mark noble
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2016 11:41 am
@tanguatlay,
In welsh 'buryport' is pronounced 'bairyport'.
Most other welsh placenames 'u' are too.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2016 12:09 pm
@Setanta,
What do you have against "mobile home yokels"? Is this meant as a derogatory term for poor people?
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2016 01:02 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta always makes me laugh.

Pronunciation is determined by the people using the language. "Mobile home yokels" have as much right to the language as anyone else.

That really is the point here.
chai2
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2016 01:29 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:


I've never in my life heard anyone pronounce bury as though it rhymes with curry.


I've been wondering why I say bury like curry since I realized my error many posts ago.

I have no idea if I've been saying it since I was a child, growing up in NJ, or picked it up somewhere along the way. I've lived for extended periods, in chronological order after NJ in S. Florida (Pompano), Wisconsin (Milwaukee), Central Florida (Okeechobee) and for the past 25 years in Central Tx, in Austin.

I made no effort no change my accent from the NE one I grew up with until I lived in the Midwest. BTW, the accent I spoke with growing up has largely disappeared in younger generations, based on what I hear when I've visited.

The most dependable, constant accent belonged to those in Wisconsin. Central Fla had the deepest Southern accent. Living in a cosmopolitan area in Texas, I only hear a typical Texas accent in the older generations of people who live in the area, or when traveling out of town.

I googled a bit, but couldn't see where in the U.S. bury is pronounced the way I do. It would be interesting to find out.

So ya'll come down here and visit a spell Set, and you can listen to my funny talkin'
 

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