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Are Gods Judgments righteous?

 
 
The Anointed
 
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Mon 19 Sep, 2022 05:22 pm
@kjw47,
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Gods word assures that some= the great crowd will be brought through the trib and Armageddon on earth-Matt 24:22--Prov 2:21-22 says they will remain on earth.

2 Peter 3: 10; But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. On that Day the heavens will disappear with a shrill noise, the heavenly bodies will burn up and be destroyed, and the earth with everything in it will vanish.

They will remain on earth until this period of universal activity is completed and it rolls up as a scroll and the elements become so excited the burn up and fall as massive columns of fire beyond all measure in height and depth into the Great Abyss=Black hole, beyond which there is nothing after which, God will create for us a new heaven and a new earth.

“According to the ancients, we live in an eternal oscillating universe that expands outward and contracts back to its beginning in space time. A universe that exists in the two states of seemingly visible matter and invisible energy.”

“Universe after universe is like an interminable succession of wheels forever coming into view, forever rolling onwards, disappearing and reappearing; forever passing from being too non-being, and again from non-being to being. In short, the constant revolving of the wheel of life in one eternal cycle, according to fixed and immutable laws, is perhaps after all, the sum and substance of the philosophy of Buddhism. And this eternal wheel has so to speak, six spokes representing six forms of existence.” ---- Mon. Williams, Buddhism, pp. 229, 122.

The days and nights of Brahma are called Manvantara, or the cycle of manifestation, ‘The Great Day,’ which is a period of universal activity, that is preceded, and also followed by ‘Pralaya,’ a dark period, which to our finite minds would seem as an eternity, or but a moment in time.

‘Manvantara,’ is a creative day as seen in the six days of creation in Genesis, ‘Pralaya,’ is the evening that proceeds the next creative day. The six periods of Creation and the seventh day of rest in which we now exist are referred to in the book of Genesis 2: 4; as the “GENERATIONS OF THE UNIVERSE.”

The English word “Generation,” is translated from the Hebrew “toledoth,” which is used in the Old Testament in every instance as ‘births,’ or ‘descendants,’ such as “These are the generations of Adam,” or “these are the generations of Abraham, and Genesis 2: 4; it is written concerning the six days of creation; “These are the generations of the Universe or the heavens and earth, etc.” And the ‘Great Day’ in which the seven generations of the universe are eternally repeated, is the eternal cosmic period, or the eighth eternal day in which those who attain to perfection, are allowed to enter, where they shall be surrounded by great light and they shall experience eternal peace, while those who do not attain to perfection are cast back into the refining fires of the seven physical cycles of endless rebirths that perpetually revolve within the eighth eternal cosmic cycle.

Enoch the righteous, wrote that God created an ‘EIGHTH’ day also, so that it should be the first after his works, and it is a day eternal with neither hours, days, weeks, months or years, for all time is stuck together in one aeon, etc, etc, and all who enter into the generation of the Light beings, are able to visit all those worlds that still exist in Space-Time, but not in our time.

A series of worlds following one upon the other-- each world rising a step higher than the previous world, so that every later world brings to ripeness the seeds that were imbedded in the former, and itself then prepares the seed for the universe that will follow it.

Enoch, who, at the age of 365 (The number of days in a calendar year) was lifted up and anointed as the heir and successor to the throne of our Father ‘The Lord of Creatures,’ and the Most High in the creation, and translated from a body of corruptible Matter into a body of brilliant and blinding Light in order that he should never experience death.

From the Book of Enoch the Prophet 108: 11-13; “And now I will summons the spirits of the good who belong to the generation of light, and I will transform those who were born in darkness, who, in the flesh were not recompensed with such honour as their faithfulness deserved. And I will bring forth in shining light those who have loved my holy name, and I will seat each one on the throne of his honour, And they shall be resplendent for times without number.”



kjw47
 
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Tue 20 Sep, 2022 02:47 pm
@The Anointed,
The darkness believes symbolic things as literal. Such as an eternal place of suffering and the earth and heavens being destroyed. Neither are fact.
izzythepush
 
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Tue 20 Sep, 2022 03:03 pm
@kjw47,
kjw47 wrote:

The darkness believes symbolic things as literal.


No it doesn't.

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The Anointed
 
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Tue 20 Sep, 2022 05:19 pm
@kjw47,
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The darkness believes symbolic things as literal. Such as an eternal place of suffering and the earth and heavens being destroyed. Neither are fact.


Revelation 20: 10; Then the Devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of fire and sulphur, where the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown; and they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

2 Peter 3: 10; But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. On that Day the heavens will disappear with a shrill noise, the heavenly bodies will burn up and be destroyed, and the earth with everything in it will vanish.

As said previously, “According to the ancients, we live in an eternal oscillating universe that expands outward and contracts back to its beginning in space time. A universe that exists in the two states of seemingly visible matter and invisible energy.”

“Universe after universe is like an interminable succession of wheels forever coming into view, forever rolling onwards, disappearing and reappearing; forever passing from being too non-being, and again from non-being to being. In short, the constant revolving of the wheel of life in one eternal cycle, according to fixed and immutable laws, is perhaps after all, the sum and substance of the philosophy of Buddhism. And this eternal wheel has so to speak, six spokes representing six forms of existence.” ---- Mon. Williams, Buddhism, pp. 229, 122.

The days and nights of Brahma are called Manvantara, or the cycle of manifestation, ‘The Great Day,’ which is a period of universal activity, that is preceded, and also followed by ‘Pralaya,’ a dark period, which to our finite minds would seem as an eternity, or but a moment in time.

‘Manvantara,’ is a creative day as seen in the six days of creation in Genesis, ‘Pralaya,’ is the evening that proceeds the next creative day. The six periods of Creation and the seventh day of rest in which we now exist are referred to in the book of Genesis 2: 4; as the “GENERATIONS OF THE UNIVERSE.”

The English word “Generation,” is translated from the Hebrew “toledoth,” which is used in the Old Testament in every instance as ‘births,’ or ‘descendants,’ such as “These are the generations of Adam,” or “these are the generations of Abraham, and Genesis 2: 4; it is written concerning the six days of creation; “These are the generations of the Universe or the heavens and earth, etc.” And the ‘Great Day’ in which the seven generations of the universe are eternally repeated, is the eternal cosmic period, or the eighth eternal day in which those who attain to perfection, are allowed to enter, where they shall be surrounded by great light and they shall experience eternal peace, while those who do not attain to perfection are cast back into the refining fires of the seven physical cycles of endless rebirths that perpetually revolve within the eighth eternal cosmic cycle.

To the Hindu, Lord Krishnu, the ‘EIGHTH’ manifestation, or rather, the eighth descendant of Vishnu the savior, is the Supreme Personality to have developed within Brahman.

Enoch the righteous, wrote that God created an ‘EIGHTH’ day also, so that it should be the first after his works, and it is a day eternal with neither hours, days, weeks, months or years, for all time is stuck together in one aeon, etc, etc, and all who enter into the generation of the Light beings, are able to visit all those worlds that still exist in Space-Time, but not in our time.

A series of worlds following one upon the other-- each world rising a step higher than the previous world, so that every later world brings to ripeness the seeds that were imbedded in the former, and itself then prepares the seed for the universe that will follow it.

Enoch, who, at the age of 365 (The number of days in a calendar year) was lifted up and anointed as the heir and successor to the throne of our Father ‘The Lord of Creatures,’ and the Most High in the creation, and translated from a body of corruptible Matter into a body of brilliant and blinding Light in order that he should never experience death.
kjw47
 
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Tue 20 Sep, 2022 05:23 pm
@The Anointed,
I showed you Gods justice scales make a literal eternal suffering impossible.
All of Gods ways are justice. Deut 32:4--Do you understand perfect justice??? God does--an eye for an eye= perfect balance. There is 0 balance in eternal suffering scenario. Teachers of darkness that do not know God teach it as literal.
The Anointed
 
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Tue 20 Sep, 2022 05:34 pm
@kjw47,
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I showed you Gods justice scales make a literal eternal suffering impossible.

And I have shown you that there is a place of eternal suffering for the devil who is an immortal being and can never die, while the second death for Adam's descendants in the Lake of fire and sulfur is eternal death. No more suffering only eternal oblivion.

Try to comprehend that which you read.
kjw47
 
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Wed 21 Sep, 2022 12:20 pm
@The Anointed,
I know what i read. You believe symbolism to be literal, Why? Because your teachers do not know God as i have shown you his reality of justice as his written word teaches clearly.
The Anointed
 
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Thu 22 Sep, 2022 03:04 am
@kjw47,
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I know what i read. You believe symbolism to be literal, Why? Because your teachers do not know God as i have shown you his reality of justice as his written word teaches clearly.


What symbolisms have I taken to be literal truths youngen?

And you have shown me nothing but the rubbish you have been taught. You even believe that the dead know nothing, while the scriptures reveal that even after the prophet Samuel had died, he prophesied to King Saul how he would die. Out of the grave he spoke as a prophet, to blot out his people's wickedness.

When the woman saw Samuel, she screamed and said to Saul, “Why have you tricked me? You are King Saul!”

“Don't be afraid!” the king said to her. “What do you see?”

“I see a spirit coming up from the earth,” she answered.

“What does it look like?” he asked.

“It's an old man coming up,” she answered. “He is wearing a cloak.”

Then Saul knew that it was Samuel, and he bowed to the ground in respect.
Samuel said to Saul, “Why have you disturbed me? Why did you make me come back?”

Saul answered, “I am in great trouble! The Philistines are at war with me, and God has abandoned me. He doesn't answer me any more, either by prophets or by dreams. And so I have called you, for you to tell me what I must do.”

Samuel said, “Why do you call me when the LORD has abandoned you and become your enemy? The LORD has done to you what he told you through me: he has taken the kingdom away from you and given it to David instead. You disobeyed the LORD's command and did not completely destroy the Amalekites and all they had. That is why the LORD is doing this to you now.

He will hand you and Israel over to the Philistines. Tomorrow you and your sons will join me, and the LORD will also hand the army of Israel over to the Philistines.”
kjw47
 
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Fri 23 Sep, 2022 03:58 pm
@The Anointed,
I proved my words out of the bible-thus not rubbish but reality. I tell you this 99% of all the religions that are claiming to be christian arent. They do not have Jesus.
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kjw47
 
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Fri 23 Sep, 2022 04:00 pm
@The Anointed,
Just a vision of Samuel.
The Anointed
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2022 12:15 am
@kjw47,
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Just a vision of Samuel.

Just a vision of an old man in a cloak, an old man who knew exactly, why in the past, God had abandoned Saul as King of Israel, for that of David, and who "KNEW" in death, exactly what God was going to do to him in the very near future.

Perhaps, if instead of listening to your false teachers, and you were to read the word of God 1 Samuel 28; you just might learn the truth as revealed by God.
kjw47
 
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Wed 28 Sep, 2022 01:06 pm
@The Anointed,
You should take your advice--Samuel was in Sheol=The grave--The bible teaches-all thought stops on the day of ones death. It was a vision, not really Samuel.
The Anointed
 
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Thu 29 Sep, 2022 01:32 am
@kjw47,
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You should take your advice--Samuel was in Sheol=The grave-- It was a vision, not really Samuel.

Genesis 15: 1; After this, Abram had a “VISION” and heard the LORD say to him, “Do not be afraid, Abram. I will shield you from danger and give you a great reward.”

So, according to you and your mob, that wasn’t God at all, Abraham was merely hallucinating It was only a "VISION" speaking to him, according to you, God never told him that HE would shield him from danger and give him a great reward, it was only a "VISION".

You reject the book of Genesis and 1 Samuel chapter 28; where it reveals the spirit of Samuel telling Saul why God rejected him and what was to occur to him and his sons next day. Nowhere in the Holy Scriptures does it say that it not the spirit of Samuel which was disturbed and came up to speak with King Saul.28

From the book of the prophet Sirach 46: 19-20; When Samuel was about to die, he gave assurances before the Lord and the anointed king that he had never taken anyone's property, not even so much as a pair of shoes, and no one contradicted him. 20Even after he died, he prophesied to King Saul how he would die. Out of the grave he spoke as a prophet, to blot out his people's wickedness.

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The bible teaches-all thought stops on the day of ones death.


Here is what the Lord says through his prophet Isaiah 57: 1-2; Good people die, and no one understands or even cares. But when they (GOOD PEOPLE) die, no calamity can hurt them. Those who lead good lives find peace and rest in death.

Whereas you and your mob teach that the unrepentant sexual child-molesting murder finds peace and rest in death. The moment he dies, he enters into a state of peaceful oblivion.

Do I believe your mob or the Lord?? Take a guess sunshine?

From the book of Sirach, which is to be found in the Apocrypha of the Old Testament, coupled together with the book of Job, a number of the Psalms, Parables, Ecclesiastes, and the Wisdom of Solomon, all belong to the Hogmah or Wisdom Literature of the Hebrews, ‘Mashal’ means Similitude, parable, or proverb.----- In the book of Sirach, R, H, Charles translation chapter 47 verse 17, it is written concerning Solomon, “By thy songs, parables, dark speeches, and SATIRES, thou didst cause astonishment to the peoples etc.”

Man and animal receive the same ultimate reward, total oblivion, from the dust they came and to the dust they shall return. A wise man is no better off than a fool, the reward for doing good is the same as that for doing evil, so don’t be too good or too wise, Why kill yourself?

We are all going to our final resting place, and although life is useless, the conclusion of the matter is, if you live a religious life you may at least experience some peace in the short span of consciousness that has been allocated to you in this useless life. So go ahead and eat, drink and be merry, drink your wine and be cheerful. It’s all right with God. Enjoy your life with the woman you love, as long as you live the useless life that God has given you in this world. Enjoy every useless day of it, because that is all that you’ll get for all your troubles.

Never again will you take part in anything that happens in the world, because there will be no action, no thought, no knowledge, no wisdom in the world of the dead to where the righteous, the wicked, the wise and the fools, animal and man, are all going. For the living know that they are going to die, but the dead know nothing.

Solomon wrote four books and Solomon’s songs are found in his book, ‘SONG OF SONGS,’ his parables are found in his book of ‘PROVERBS’, his dark speeches are in the 'WISDOM OF SOLOMON’ and who can read the negative and even depressing words from the book of ‘Ecclesiastes without realizing that here is the ‘SATRICAL’ work of Solomon, aimed at those people of the godless religion, who believed in neither life after death, or the resurrection from the dead.

If you believe Ecclesiastes to be the actual word of God and not the 'SATRICAL' work of Solomon. Then you can kiss goodbye to any hope of a resurrection. For according to the SATRICAL words of Solomon, never again will you take part in anything that happens in the world, because there will be no action, no thought, no knowledge, no wisdom in the world of the dead to where the righteous, the wicked, the wise and the fools, animal and man, are all going. For the living know that they are going to die, but the dead know nothing.

You do know that Jesus descended spiritually into Sheol=the Hebrew underworld, abode of the dead- and preached the GOOD NEWS to the dead also, don't you?---- But how could the dead hear him according to you.


kjw47
 
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Thu 29 Sep, 2022 10:05 am
@kjw47,
I didnt say God was a vision, Samuel was.
kjw47
 
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Thu 29 Sep, 2022 10:10 am
@The Anointed,
Jesus speaking to the dead was symbolic. Here are the facts of Sheol= Ecclesiastes 9:10-- All that your hands find to do, do with your very power. For there is no work, nor devising, nor knowledge, nor wisdom in Sheol, the place to where you are going---Proving symbolism about Jesus speaking to the dead. If they have no knowledge they wouldnt understand a word if it was literal.
InfraBlue
 
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Thu 29 Sep, 2022 03:16 pm
@kjw47,
kjw47 wrote:

The darkness believes symbolic things as literal. Such as an eternal place of suffering and the earth and heavens being destroyed. Neither are fact.


So, was the parting of the Red Sea literal, or symbolic? How about the sun standing still in the sky in the sack of Gibeon?
The Anointed
 
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Thu 29 Sep, 2022 03:34 pm
@kjw47,
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Jesus speaking to the dead was symbolic. Here are the facts of Sheol= Ecclesiastes 9:10-- All that your hands find to do, do with your very power. For there is no work, nor devising, nor knowledge, nor wisdom in Sheol, the place to where you are going---Proving symbolism about Jesus speaking to the dead. If they have no knowledge they wouldnt understand a word if it was literal.

Thus says the SATIRIST Solomon; ECCLESIASTES 9: 2-6; The same fate comes to the righteous and the wicked, to the good and the bad, to those who are religious and those who are not, to those who offer sacrifices and those who do not. A good person is no better off than a sinner; one who takes an oath is no better off than one who does not. One fate comes to all alike, and this is as wrong as anything that happens in this world. As long as people live, their minds are full of evil and madness, and suddenly they die. But anyone who is alive in the world of the living has some hope; a live dog is better off than a dead lion. Yes, the living know they are going to die, but the dead know nothing. They have no further reward; they are COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN. Their loves, their hates, their passions, all died with them. THEY WILL NEVER AGAIN TAKE PART IN ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THIS WORLD.

And they have convinced you to believe that those are the words of the Lord, you poor sod.
The Anointed
 
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Thu 29 Sep, 2022 07:02 pm
@InfraBlue,
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So, was the parting of the Red Sea literal, or symbolic?

The fourteenth day of the first month of the Jewish year while in Egypt, which was the first Passover ever, was the day in which all the firstborn sons of Egypt were killed. Around that time the volcanic Island of Santorini or Thira as it is also known, which was situated in the Aegean-sea, on the Anatolian plate, which is subject to the forces of the over-riding African Plate that grinds against the Arabian plate in its Northern migration, exploded with many times the force of Krakatoa, which was a volcanic island that exploded in 1883, and that explosion was heard 5,000 kilometres away, and caused a tsunami that killed at least 36,000 people. It has been estimated that when the island of Santorini exploded, 35,000 kilometres of material was lifted into the stratosphere, and that the explosive force would have created tidal waves of anything up to 130 ft high which would have traveled at speeds of around 150 miles per hour.

A cloud, that turned day into night around 1,500 BC, has been recorded in Chinese history, and would have covered all of north Africa. The African and Arabian plates intersect in a line that runs through the Red Sea and up the Jordan valley through the Dead Sea.

Look at the strange phenomenon that was occurring at the time of the Exodus. The cloud that blanketed north Africa and most of Europe, and turned day into a night so dark that a man was not able to recognise his own brother who was standing at arms-length from him. The rain of sulfuric acid that caused so much crop failure and the death of the livestock which were forced to feed on the polluted pastures, the following series of shock waves along the great rift valley and the fractures in the Sini peninsular which is situated on the Arabian plate, the bulging of the earth’s crust beneath the Red Sea which caused a highway to rise from the waters, with its following tremor when it collapsed and tidal waves that rolled in like two walls of water on either side of where the highway had been.

Wisdom of Solomon 19: 7-8, ‘Then was beheld the cloud that shadowed the camp, and dry land rising up out of what was before water, Out of the Red sea an unhindered highway, and a grassy plain rising out of the violent surge.”

Look even where the Israelites camped on the shore of the Red sea, which was smack bang in the middle of a major coal field in Egypt.

The bulging earth rising from the surging sea before them, pressurized gas screaming from the opening fissures creating towering pillars of fire to burn behind them, a strong east wind blew all that night causing the thick smoke to blind the pursuing Egyptians while lighting up the camp of the Israelites on the eastern side of those wild fires.

All these events were caused from pressures that had been built up over tens of thousands of years and would have occurred in their proper time, irrelevant as too the Israeli situation. Where the miracle lay, was in the fact that an unseen deity of the future, was able, through his prophet Moses, to organise the events leading up to and including the exodus itself at the precise time in history that this cataclysmic event occurred.

In the book “The Wisdom of Solomon, 16” Solomon has much to say about the days of Moses; he speaks of the strange hails that fell from heaven. Burning balls of frozen gases, some with the ability to burn even in water, some which burned with a heat so intense that they incinerated anything they came in contact with, while other hail, burned with a cold fire through which animals could walk unharmed.

Solomon also speaks of the cloud that covered the Israelites in the desert and of the Manna that fell from heaven during the night. According to Solomon, the heavenly covering was a cloud by day and a host of stars by night, (a night sky ablaze with falling balls of burning hail stones). Then concerning the heavenly Manna, he says, “And that which was not injured by fire, [Burning hailstones] simply warmed by a faint sun beam melted away.

Each morning the desert floor was covered with the residue of the melted hailstones, mounds of a flaky cellulose substance, which looked like coriander seed, and would melt and breed worms and stink if left out in the sun, and yet could be preserved when cooked, and tasted like biscuits mixed with olive oils.

Carbohydrates are any of a group of chemical compounds, including sugars, starches, and cellulose, containing carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen ‘ONLY’, [of which there was an ample supply in the cloud from the volcanic explosion] with the ratio of hydrogen to oxygen atoms usually 2 : 1.

Perhaps, if our scientists could simulate the same conditions that occurred in the stratosphere when the island of Thira exploded, they may come up with an inexpensive and environmentally friendly source of food production to feed the starving millions on the earth.

The early Egyptian magicians or scientists, were able to duplicate some of the miracles of God as performed by Moses. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if our magician/scientists of today were able to perform the more mysterious of God’s miracles as seen in the days of Moses, and provide an abundant and cheap source of food to feed the ever-growing population on this earth.

As I have already said, all those things that happened in Egypt at that time, were caused from pressures that had built up over many, many, thousands of years. Where the miracle is found, is in the fact that some invisible entity from some other time dimension, was able to instigate the Exodus, at the precise time that the destructive forces beneath the island of Santorini, were beginning to awake.

Although radiocarbon dating of an olive tree imbedded in lava would appear to indicate a 1600 BCE eruption of Santorini/Thera, that is, if the lava that it was imbedded in was from the actual eruption that devastated the island and its surrounding districts and not from an earlier minor lava flow, there are many archaeologists who still believe that the date is contradicted by findings in Egyptian and Theran excavations.

Buried Egyptian and Cypriot pottery found on Thera were dated to a later period than the radiometric dates for the eruption, and, since the conventional Egyptian chronology has been established by numerous archaeological studies, the exact date of the eruption remains controversial.

Because of all the contradicting evidence, the exact date of the eruption has been difficult to determine. For most of the twentieth century, archaeologists placed it at approximately 1500 BCE, but this date appeared to be too young as radiocarbon dating analysis of that olive tree which was buried beneath “A” lava flow from the volcano on Santorini, indicate that the particular lava flow in which the olive tree was imbedded, occurred between 1627 BCE and 1600 BCE.

But at Tell el Dab'a in Egypt, pumice found at this location has been dated to 1540 BCE, very close to the date of the Exodus and much closer to the traditionally accepted date of Thera's eruption. This matches the composition of the Thera eruption.

While in Egypt, the Israelites lived under the rule of the Hyksos Kings, Apopis, is said to have been the Last of the Shepherd Kings=Hyksos kings and He reigned c 1585-42 B.C. when He with his forces.

Is there any way that we can date the Exodus of the Israelite shepherds? There certainly is.

1 Kings 6: 1; States that it was 480 years after the Exodus, that Solomon began to build the temple, which took seven year to complete. According to Josephus the Jewish historian, the temple stood for four hundred and seventy years six months and ten days before it was sacked and burned by Nebuchadnezzar’s forces in 587 B.C.

587 B.C., + the four hundred and seventy years six months and ten days, rounded off to four hundred and seventy and one years that the Temple stood + the seven years it took to build, after the 480 years since the Exodus and we have 587 B.C., + 471 years = 1058 B.C., + 7 years = 1065 B.C., + 480 years = 1545 B.C.

Apopis, is said to have been a Hyksos king of ancient Egypt and reigned c 1585-42 B.C., and Apopis was the Last of the Shepherd Kings?

Remembering always that the radiocarbon tests which dated Kathleen Kenyon’s findings of the destruction of Jericho to 1562 BC (plus/minus 38 years) had only a certainty of 95%.

If it was 1545 B.C., when the 80 years old Moses, with the 600,000 Israelite men, their wives and children, departed the land of Egypt, it would have seriously depleted forces of the Hyksos king and it was some three years later in 1542 B.C., that Ahmose I, was finally able to defeat the depleted forces of the Hyksos king, ‘Apopis,’ and send them packing out of his country.




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The Anointed
 
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Thu 29 Sep, 2022 08:29 pm
@kjw47,
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I didnt say God was a vision,

We know you didn't. The bible Genesis 15: 1; said that. What you said, was that visions are not real, therefore, according to you, the vision Abraham had of God, was not real, just an illusion.
kjw47
 
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Fri 30 Sep, 2022 05:29 pm
@The Anointed,
The resurrection occurs after Jesus 1000 year reign, 1000 years after Armageddon is complete. Thus Samuel is not resurrected yet.Rev 20:12
 

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