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Which Religion is the One True Religion?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 03:34 pm
The question about "which" has always been the wrong q. au has it spot on! There is no need for religion, because with all the religions established by men, none has worked; we're still having wars and discimination - some with the blessings of religion.
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 03:49 pm
The end of religion is foretold in the bible. Did you know that?
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 04:19 pm
neologist

You mean the writers wrote an ending to their fairy tale?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 06:51 pm
Oh yeah, AU, 144,000 of them get to live happily ever after . . .
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 08:27 pm
"The end of religion is foretold in the bible. Did you know that?"

Future discoveries by scientists will eventually refute everything in the bible. It's ironic that christinans believe everything the bible says, but that's another mistake of the bible that will be refuted, because there will always be some form of "religion." Buddhism doesn't rely on gods; it's about the self. Buddhims, taoism, confucianism are all religions that are not based on some omnipotent god, and they will survive long after the christian god is laughed out of existence.
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 09:10 pm
Setanta wrote:
Oh yeah, AU, 144,000 of them get to live happily ever after . . .
You must be referring to the 144,000 mentioned at Revelation 7:4, the ones who are to rule as kings and priests over the earth. Sounds pretty boring to me. I'd sure like to have a chance to live the life on earth originally promised to Adam and Eve, though. That is the hope of those a few verses down.

So, I guess you won't believe me that the United Nations is identified as the agent of destruction, huh? Doesn't hardly make sense, does it? Or has the seed been planted HERE?

It is hard to sustain arguments in favor of the world's religions. That's why I enjoy the chance to punch both ways. I am sad to have to admit, however, the most cogent arguments often come from the unbelievers.
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real life
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 09:25 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
"The end of religion is foretold in the bible. Did you know that?"

Future discoveries by scientists will eventually refute everything in the bible. It's ironic that christinans believe everything the bible says, but that's another mistake of the bible that will be refuted, because there will always be some form of "religion." Buddhism doesn't rely on gods; it's about the self. Buddhims, taoism, confucianism are all religions that are not based on some omnipotent god, and they will survive long after the christian god is laughed out of existence.


Hmmmm. I tot I taw an Impostoo pwaising Buddhism.
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real life
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 09:34 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
"The Truth and Life" you and many others believe in are nothing but fiction. The bible has no support - except the bible. If you really want to learn about "truth and life," study philosophy. I'm told that buddhism is one of the better philosophy for learning about truth and life. Christianity has too many "thou shalts" that contradicts each other. Better to seek a simpler lifestyle without all that man-made dogma.



I DID !! I DID !! I DID TAW AN IMPOSTOO PWAISING BUDDHISM !!
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 10:15 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
"The end of religion is foretold in the bible. Did you know that?"

Future discoveries by scientists will eventually refute everything in the bible. It's ironic that christinans believe everything the bible says, but that's another mistake of the bible that will be refuted, because there will always be some form of "religion." Buddhism doesn't rely on gods; it's about the self. Buddhims, taoism, confucianism are all religions that are not based on some omnipotent god, and they will survive long after the christian god is laughed out of existence.
If you were willing to sit still for a few minutes and expand on your asseveration that the bible has no support except the bible, you would find that the bible does indeed support itself. You would then realize that God did not set Adam and Eve up to fail. Who knows what else you might discover?
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real life
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 11:14 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
Have no idea of what you two jokers are going on and on about...but if either of you actually ever gets to the point, I'll be more than delighted to reply.


Certainly you must know Frank. It was this exchange where you "whiffed", completely and totally sidestepping the questions.




Frank Apisa wrote:
real life wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
real life wrote:
Directors of pro-life CPCs will tell you that when a mother-to-be sees her baby on the ultrasound, it's like a light bulb switches on in her head. It's a baby, there he is.


And all this emotional stuff merely makes the decision harder...it does not, for the most part, stop the decision from being made.




Yeah Frank actually it does often stop the decision to abort from being made when a mother can see her unborn on the ultrasound.

And why is giving a mother access to medical information , such as an ultrasound, "emotional stuff" ?

You call yourself pro-choice. Shouldn't she make the most informed choice possible?


I repeat:

And all this emotional stuff merely makes the decision harder...it does not, for the most part, stop the decision from being made.

Try to think, Life...before you post.

The choice is made! The CHOICE is not always to go through with the abortion....the CHOICE...is to have a CHOICE to either have one or not to have one.

Christ...I hate having to explain basics. You'd think a brain would be an absolute minimum requirement for posting in this forum.


"The CHOICE..is to have a CHOICE....." What kind of mumbo jumbo is that?

So if the mother views an ultrasound of her unborn, is she being denied a choice? Did suddenly her choice go away and she is whisked into another universe with only one choice?

That is really lame. "The choice is to have a choice......." Sounds like Hillary on 'ludes.

The questions you whiffed are:

Why is giving a mother access to medical information , such as an ultrasound, "emotional stuff" ?

And:

Shouldn't she make the most informed choice possible?
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 11:21 pm
You're going to confuse Frank with all this emotional stuff like why a woman grieves whan she miscarries.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 02:45 am
neologist wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
"The end of religion is foretold in the bible. Did you know that?"

Future discoveries by scientists will eventually refute everything in the bible. It's ironic that christinans believe everything the bible says, but that's another mistake of the bible that will be refuted, because there will always be some form of "religion." Buddhism doesn't rely on gods; it's about the self. Buddhims, taoism, confucianism are all religions that are not based on some omnipotent god, and they will survive long after the christian god is laughed out of existence.
If you were willing to sit still for a few minutes and expand on your asseveration that the bible has no support except the bible, you would find that the bible does indeed support itself. You would then realize that God did not set Adam and Eve up to fail. Who knows what else you might discover?


Anyone who cannot see that Adam and Eve were set up by the disgusting god of the Bible...simply is not bright enough to be arguing this kind of stuff.

Anyone who thinks they can make this murderous, barbaric god into a loving, compassionate, understanding god...is much, much too terrified of the god to ever realistically assess anything in the Bible.

This supposed biblical defense is farce!

You folks are a laugh.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 02:53 am
real life wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
Have no idea of what you two jokers are going on and on about...but if either of you actually ever gets to the point, I'll be more than delighted to reply.


Certainly you must know Frank. It was this exchange where you "whiffed", completely and totally sidestepping the questions.




Frank Apisa wrote:
real life wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
real life wrote:
Directors of pro-life CPCs will tell you that when a mother-to-be sees her baby on the ultrasound, it's like a light bulb switches on in her head. It's a baby, there he is.


And all this emotional stuff merely makes the decision harder...it does not, for the most part, stop the decision from being made.




Yeah Frank actually it does often stop the decision to abort from being made when a mother can see her unborn on the ultrasound.

And why is giving a mother access to medical information , such as an ultrasound, "emotional stuff" ?

You call yourself pro-choice. Shouldn't she make the most informed choice possible?


I repeat:

And all this emotional stuff merely makes the decision harder...it does not, for the most part, stop the decision from being made.

Try to think, Life...before you post.

The choice is made! The CHOICE is not always to go through with the abortion....the CHOICE...is to have a CHOICE to either have one or not to have one.

Christ...I hate having to explain basics. You'd think a brain would be an absolute minimum requirement for posting in this forum.


"The CHOICE..is to have a CHOICE....." What kind of mumbo jumbo is that?

So if the mother views an ultrasound of her unborn, is she being denied a choice? Did suddenly her choice go away and she is whisked into another universe with only one choice?


No, Life...and if you would only learn to read...you'd see that I did not say that.

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That is really lame. "The choice is to have a choice......." Sounds like Hillary on 'ludes.


Well...sorry if you cannot even understand something that reasonable and easy to understand. But I do realize that you are under stress. You are being required to think in this thread...and that obviously is not something you do very often.

Hillary, by the way, can think. So you ought really to be careful about insulting her. She is way, way beyond your abilities.


[quoteThe questions you whiffed are:

Why is giving a mother access to medical information , such as an ultrasound, "emotional stuff" ?[/quote]

I did not whiff that question at all.

The ultrasound stuff is emotional stuff...and it does make the decision harder. It never stops the decision from being made. Either the woman has an abortion or does not. And that, after all, is what the decision is.

Why is that so difficult for you to understand?


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And:

Shouldn't she make the most informed choice possible?


She should make whatever decision she chooses....without scum trying to make her feel guilty about her decision just because they are trying to stick their noses up some god's ass.

Or at least, that is my opinion.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 02:54 am
neologist wrote:
You're going to confuse Frank with all this emotional stuff like why a woman grieves whan she miscarries.


What in the hell does that have to do with what we are discussing?

Egad...you people are absurd.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 10:55 am
Frank Apisa wrote:


Anyone who cannot see that Adam and Eve were set up by the disgusting god of the Bible...simply is not bright enough to be arguing this kind of stuff.

Anyone who thinks they can make this murderous, barbaric god into a loving, compassionate, understanding god...is much, much too terrified of the god to ever realistically assess anything in the Bible.

This supposed biblical defense is farce!

You folks are a laugh.


Adam and Eve were not "set up".

They had a free unhindered choice and they chose "unwisely"...

Can you not comprehend that the original sin may have been "their" fault and theirs alone?

Do you not have any concept of accountability Frank?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 11:10 am
Frank Apisa wrote:


She should make whatever decision she chooses....without scum trying to make her feel guilty about her decision just because they are trying to stick their noses up some god's ass.

Or at least, that is my opinion.


Do you want to know my opinion?

Well,

When a woman who is heading into an abortion clinic for her seventh "anonymous" abortion, well I think it should be fine if she wants to use abortion as a contraceptive... but, her name should go on a list on the internet along with the father of the child and they should be listed with the known pedophiles...

That is my opinion...

Other than the use of abortion as a form of contraceptive I am fine with a woman having choice if she wants an abortion.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 11:13 am
RexRed wrote:

Adam and Eve were not "set up".


They were placed in a situation of temptation...with the Tempter of all Tempters there to help them be tempted. And your god withheld from them the one thing that might have prevented them from yielding to the temptation. Your god did not allow them to know the difference between right and wrong...between good and evil.

That is the point of the story, Rex. You god did not want them to eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil...of right and wrong.


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They had a free unhindered choice and they chose "unwisely"...


They did not know good from evil, Rex....they did not know right from wrong. How can you say they chose unwisely?

They chose one of two options...neither of which to them was right or wrong or good or evil.

THEY WERE SET UP BY THE BARBARIC god OF THE BIBLE.


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Can you not comprehend that the original sin may have been "their" fault and theirs alone?


Can you not recognize a sting operation when you see it? Can you not tell when someone has been set up for failure?

Can you not see that the idiot god of the Bible punished them....and all the rest of humanity....for something they had absolutely no way of knowing was wrong or evil?

What does it take to wake you people up?



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Do you not have any concept of accountability Frank?


Yes...do you?

Do you not see that if the god...in this pathetic myth....set them up by refusing to let them know what was right and what was wrong...the accountability for all of this accrues to the idiot god...not to Adam and Eve.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 11:16 am
RexRed wrote:

Do you want to know my opinion?

Well,

When a woman who is heading into an abortion clinic for her seventh "anonymous" abortion



STRAWMAN ALERT! STRAWMAN ALERT! Warning! Warning!


Quote:
... well I think it should be fine if she wants to use abortion as a contraceptive... but, her name should go on a list on the internet along with the father of the child and they should be listed with the known pedophiles...

That is my opinion...


This is the extension of a silly strawman argument.

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Other than the use of abortion as a form of contraceptive I am fine with a woman having choice if she wants an abortion.


Good.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 11:19 am
Frank Apisa wrote:
RexRed wrote:

Adam and Eve were not "set up".


They were placed in a situation of temptation...with the Tempter of all Tempters there to help them be tempted. And your god withheld from them the one thing that might have prevented them from yielding to the temptation. Your god did not allow them to know the difference between right and wrong...between good and evil.

That is the point of the story, Rex. You god did not want them to eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil...of right and wrong.


Quote:
They had a free unhindered choice and they chose "unwisely"...


They did not know good from evil, Rex....they did not know right from wrong. How can you say they chose unwisely?

They chose one of two options...neither of which to them was right or wrong or good or evil.

THEY WERE SET UP BY THE BARBARIC god OF THE BIBLE.


Quote:
Can you not comprehend that the original sin may have been "their" fault and theirs alone?


Can you not recognize a sting operation when you see it? Can you not tell when someone has been set up for failure?

Can you not see that the idiot god of the Bible punished them....and all the rest of humanity....for something they had absolutely no way of knowing was wrong or evil?

What does it take to wake you people up?



Quote:
Do you not have any concept of accountability Frank?


Yes...do you?

Do you not see that if the god...in this pathetic myth....set them up by refusing to let them know what was right and what was wrong...the accountability for all of this accrues to the idiot god...not to Adam and Eve.


Adam and Eve knew the conditions (all trees but one) and the were told the consequences (on that day thou shalt surely die)...

They had a choice...
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 11:24 am
RexRed wrote:

Adam and Eve knew the conditions (all trees but one) and the were told the consequences (on that day thou shalt surely die)...

They had a choice...


According to this silly, childish myth, they did NOT know there was anything wrong with disobeying. That knowledge was withheld from them by the idiot god.

Fact is, they did not even know there was anything wrong with dying...for all the myth explains.

And...since the god says they would die that very day...and Satan said they wouldn't...and since they didn't...

...it was the idiot god that lied....not Satan. (If it was Satan...there are arguments you Christians make against it being Satan.)
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