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Which Religion is the One True Religion?

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2005 02:42 pm
shiyacic aleksandar wrote:
Dear friends,

I would say that we all live in Truth.It is Gods nickname! Very Happy


Sounds to me like someone who is in love with his/her guesses about the unknown.

Pathetic!
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shiyacic aleksandar
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2005 03:14 pm
Every man interpretes some allegation through his own emotions and discernement at the given moment.
Truth is really an intuitional feeling which is above the intellect. Very Happy
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booman2
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2005 03:28 pm
shiyacic,
....You sound like a religious person. shying away from intellect. Rolling Eyes
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shiyacic aleksandar
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2005 03:47 pm
Booman2,it is not forbidenn to use our intellect,it is indeed a good tool!!! Very Happy Religion, politics, arts, economy and other encasements find resolution in the discovery our own Being,and then make bridges among these disciplines,through love!This is for me religion!
I hope its not too complicatited the manner how I express it!
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real life
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2005 05:05 pm
timberlandko wrote:
real life wrote:
Did Man produce Truth (the objective truths found in Mathematics , in your example) by his reason? Or did he discover Truth that was already there?

If Man only discovered that which already was in existence, then reason is not the source of Truth. It is simply one path by which it may be uncovered.

Humankind invented neither the truths nor the methods for discerning them; humankind discovered them - through observation, reason, and logic.


Good to see we seem to agree on this. However this does contradict your earlier assertion that reason is the source of Truth. Truth exists before anyone "discovers" it.

Timberlandko wrote:


Continuing in the same post, real life wrote:
Furthermore, Absolute Truth exists in more than just Mathematics. Objective standards exists in morality as well. There are Absolute standards of right and wrong. It is not the invention of Man either.


Of course there are moral absolutes - and they're not exclusive to humans. The good of the species determines what is moral - if not good for the survival and propagation of the species, it is not moral, whether you're a human, a wolf, a goose, or a cetacean. ..... Humankind has taken morality exponentially beyond that of the lesser critters; humankind came up with ethics, written laws and the legislative and judicial processes. From clans to tribes to city-states to nations to global multi-national politico-economic entities, we've come a long way, baby.


Hitler, by means of written laws, determined that the good of the species was served best by exterminating unwelcome members of the human race.

If morality is only determined either by what someone thinks is "good for the species" or by what is "legal" at the moment, then that morality would not be Absolute, would it? It would be completely subjective.

Therefore your description of the nature of moral absolutes is both faulty and dangerous.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2005 05:59 pm
shiyacic aleksandar wrote:
Every man interpretes some allegation through his own emotions and discernement at the given moment.
Truth is really an intuitional feeling which is above the intellect. Very Happy


Only to someone who has no other fiction to use in a particular situation.

This is one of the dumbest....most self-severving....statements I've ever seen in this forum.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2005 11:14 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Isn't it nice that your god with unlimited power can destroy human lives by the thousands like the recent tsunami in Sri Lanka? Didn't even warn Noah. Nothing like a "loving god' who has unlimited power to show it to us wee humans.
Satan is the god of this world.

If you believe the bible, that is.
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shiyacic aleksandar
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2005 12:49 am
Frank Apisa wrote:
shiyacic aleksandar wrote:
Every man interpretes some allegation through his own emotions and discernement at the given moment.
Truth is really an intuitional feeling which is above the intellect. Very Happy


Only to someone who has no other fiction to use in a particular situation.

This is one of the dumbest....most self-severving....statements I've ever seen in this forum.


your fellings are coloured with anger and lack of spiriual maturity!
Psychology isnt a "dumb" statement and I have nothing to win telling you this, it is only for your own good Frank... :wink:
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2005 03:02 am
shiyacic aleksandar wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
shiyacic aleksandar wrote:
Every man interpretes some allegation through his own emotions and discernement at the given moment.
Truth is really an intuitional feeling which is above the intellect. Very Happy


Only to someone who has no other fiction to use in a particular situation.

This is one of the dumbest....most self-severving....statements I've ever seen in this forum.


your fellings are coloured with anger and lack of spiriual maturity!


I am angry. That I grant. I think religion is ruining the world and I am furious that so many people allow their fears of the unknown to further the prospects of the great menace to humanity that calls itself religion.

I'm not really sure what you mean by "lack of spiritual maturity"...but I suspect you would prefer that everyone be as fearful of the unknown as you...and you recognize that I am not so disposed.



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Psychology isnt a "dumb" statement and I have nothing to win telling you this, it is only for your own good Frank... :wink:


Yeah....you superstitious people are always doing things for other people's own good. That's what the priests used to tell people they were burning alive.

In any case, the "dumb" statement was "Truth is really an intuitional feeling which is above the intellect."

That is not "psychology"...that is drivel.
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shiyacic aleksandar
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2005 03:56 am
Anger finds its roots in lack of comprehension and fears.
I am not a Jehovah witness nor Im selling anything to you.
I am at the contrary against marketing and competition.
I live very simply I donot work in society to earn money nor I need money.I have no Bosses nor I serve anyone but my Master who is God.
Hes my only Boss.
All Beliefs and level of Intelligence are equal to me,because I understand each one at his own degree and maturity.
Life is very simple!
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2005 09:21 am
shiyacic aleksandar wrote:
Anger finds its roots in lack of comprehension and fears.
I am not a Jehovah witness nor Im selling anything to you.
I am at the contrary against marketing and competition.
I live very simply I donot work in society to earn money nor I need money.I have no Bosses nor I serve anyone but my Master who is God.
Hes my only Boss.
All Beliefs and level of Intelligence are equal to me,because I understand each one at his own degree and maturity.
Life is very simple!
Please use spell check as a courtesy to us. It is hard enough to understand your esoteric reasoning.
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2005 09:39 am
Did christianity originate from Mithraism? 


Link
http://www.debatingchristianity.com/forum/pda/thread.php?topic_id=1575
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shiyacic aleksandar
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2005 10:47 am
All religions originate from God, Who is Love. :wink:
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SN95
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2005 10:49 am
au1929 wrote:
Did christianity originate from Mithraism? 


Link
http://www.debatingchristianity.com/forum/pda/thread.php?topic_id=1575


I've brought up the same question on quite a few threads. Perhaps you'll be luckier than I in getting some sort of response.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2005 10:50 am
Ah, yes, if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out--feel the love.

The House of Islam and the House of War--feel the love.

Onward Christian Soldiers ! ! ! Feel the love ! ! !
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2005 10:52 am
Don't hold your breath for a response from christians. They've already learned to read the bible in a very special way that allows them to reconcile all the contradictions and flaws. Their brains have already been trained to interpret their belief in amazing ways.
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2005 10:52 am
SN95

Probably not. The holier than thou group are to busy telling the rest of us if we do not except Jesus we are going to hell. They can't see past that.
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2005 11:03 am
au1929 wrote:
Did christianity originate from Mithraism? 


Link
http://www.debatingchristianity.com/forum/pda/thread.php?topic_id=1575
Are you talking about nominal christianity or true Christianity?
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2005 11:19 am
neologist wrote

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Are you talking about nominal Christianity or true Christianity?


They are talking about the wellspring of Christianity. The possibility existed that Christianity stands upon a foundation of the Hebrew bible and Mithraism? 

Yes I know I am going to hell. On second thought I can't go to hell it's segregated :wink:
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2005 11:30 am
au1929 wrote:
neologist wrote

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Are you talking about nominal Christianity or true Christianity?


They are talking about the wellspring of Christianity. The possibility existed that Christianity stands upon a foundation of the Hebrew bible and Mithraism? 

Yes I know I am going to hell. On second thought I can't go to hell it's segregated :wink:
A careful reading of the bible will reveal that there is no life after death, therefore, no hell.

The pagan ideas you are referring to are not supported by the bible. As I said, the obfuscation of truth by the clergy has been for their benefit, not yours or mine.
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