Which Religion is the One True Religion?

The fun never stops in the Spirituality and Religion forum, that's for sure . . .

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I've said it before and I'll say it again: I do love this concert!

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Are we getting closer to god now? Razz

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It was midnight on the sea
The band played "Nearer My God to Thee"
Fare thee well Titanic,
Fare thee well . . .

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I'll take that as a "Yes"

Well, at least when the ship is going down, one can take comfort in the fact they're getting closer to God...or something. "Will somebone make something happen around here...anything...just I wanna see some changes...rock me, tell me I'm alive or dead or something!"

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The only "true" religion is the one "you" believe in.

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C.I.
Agreed

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CI,

Exactly.

So we covered a lot of this in the first couple pages of this thread.

It really seems to come down to "you gotta believe"

Faith.

Either you got it (in whatever religion), or you don't.

Nothing can be proven right or wrong in this area, it seems.

It all comes down to what you choose to have Faith in.

So its like, you choose what is true, in a way.

Almost Existentialism.

(ready for flames on this one)

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Does this then mean, existentialism is what we have left?

I've waited for months and hundreds of posts on this thread to come around to saying this, and I fully expect it to get attacked from all sides.

Considering all the above, does this mean we are left with existentialism?

If not, do you have a viable alternative or something else...or is it just whatever one wishes to believe in? (again though, even here, existentialism rears its head).

Considering all the above information on this thread, and in these last few posts, is Existentialism the only reasonable approach left for the unprejudiced thinking mind today?

I may not have worded some of this precisely, I'm kind of in a rush, but I think you get my drift.

Let the attacks commence, ladies and gentlemen.

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And I'm standing shoulder to shoulder with EM.

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spendius wrote:

And I'm standing shoulder to shoulder with EM.

<EM raises eyebrows, looks around slowly, breathes, eyes narrow>

Spendius, what are you doing here? I thought you had sworn off spirituality & religion long ago. :wink:

Thank you Spendius, I think.

As we all know, certain classical characters can be your best ally or worst enemy.

And things are not always as they seem on the surface in the best classics. Do we have a wolf in sheep's clothing here? Or the character capable of spouting (intermittent) sage words...

Then again, sometimes things are just as they seem in on the surface...

Do you appear on this stage in earnest, sir?

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FYI- For those who may not know what existentialism is, here's one person's definition, and a pretty good intro website on it. Keeping in mind there are many schools, flavors, writers of existentialism.

http://www.tameri.com/csw/exist/

"Existentialism attempts to describe our desire to make rational decisions despite existing in an irrational universe. Unfortunately, life might be without inherent meaning (existential atheists) or it might be without a meaning we can understand (existential theists). Either way, the human desires for logic and immortality are futile. We are forced to define our own meanings, knowing they might be temporary. In this existence
The Individual Defines Everything. "

Existentialism / Philosophy / Fiction / Theology / Psychology / Before / Beyond/ Introduction | Definitions | Ethics | Divisions | Context | Resources | Beauvoir | Heidegger | Jaspers | Kierkegaard | Nietzsche | Sartre | Camus | Barth, J. | Dostoevsky | Goethe | Kafka | Introduction | Barth "

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cicerone imposter wrote:

The only "true" religion is the one "you" believe in.

Are you stating that there is no such thing as Absolute Truth?

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"Absolute Truth" is in the eye of the beholder.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

"Absolute Truth" is in the eye of the beholder.

A Clintonian dodge, worthy of the master himself. Well done sir.

Let me assist.

The statement "There is no Absolute Truth" is itself a statement of an Absolute.

Is this contradictory position one to which you are trying to direct us?

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From the evidence available...it appears there is no absolute truth.

And if there is....it appears as though we humans are not yet privy to its nature.

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Frank Apisa wrote:

From the evidence available...it appears there is no absolute truth.

And if there is....it appears as though we humans are not yet privy to its nature.

Hi Frank,

Good to hear from you.

There appears to be at least two problems that make relativism untenable as a guiding philosophy for anything.

The first, as I mentioned, is the contradiction in logic:

Relativism states that there is no Absolute Truth. But in doing so an Absolute has been set forth as being true.

The second is a problem that relativism shares with atheism. Both presuppose Omniscience on the part of the adherent.

Since the atheist does not possess Omniscience, his statement that no God exists is an unprovable assertion of his blind faith, nothing more. The relativist, similarly, lacks the Omniscience to state that there is no Absolute Truth to be found.

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And the religionist lacks the Omnisnce requred of the assertions made by religion. Pretty much a vicious circle deal.

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Does this then mean, existentialism is what we have left?

I've waited for months and hundreds of posts on this thread to come around to saying this, and I fully expect it to get attacked from all sides.

Considering all the above, does this mean we are left with existentialism?

If not, do you have a viable alternative or something else...or is it just whatever one wishes to believe in? (again though, even here, existentialism rears its head).

Considering all the above information on this thread, and in these last few posts, is Existentialism the only reasonable approach left for the unprejudiced thinking mind today?

If one cannot take written revelations as truths, then I think it is most appropriate to take up agnostism.

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thunder_runner32 wrote:

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Does this then mean, existentialism is what we have left?

I've waited for months and hundreds of posts on this thread to come around to saying this, and I fully expect it to get attacked from all sides.

Considering all the above, does this mean we are left with existentialism?

If not, do you have a viable alternative or something else...or is it just whatever one wishes to believe in? (again though, even here, existentialism rears its head).

Considering all the above information on this thread, and in these last few posts, is Existentialism the only reasonable approach left for the unprejudiced thinking mind today?

If one cannot take written revelations as truths, then I think it is most appropriate to take up agnostism.

It makes sense to me to "take up" agnosticism no matter what.

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timberlandko wrote:

And the religionist lacks the Omnisnce requred of the assertions made by religion. Pretty much a vicious circle deal.

Omniscience is required to prove the ABSENCE of something.

It does not take omniscience to experience something; for one to say, for instance, "I have a plan for tomorrow." does not require omniscience.

You may not believe that I have a plan, or you may want to scoff and call my plan something else if you don't like it. But it does not require omniscience.

You could shout "Prove you have a plan for tomorrow." and whatever I answered you could scoff, "well you're just making it up." However omniscience would be required for you to prove that it did not exist.

Nice try, Timber.

If you would like to take a swipe at proving the non-existence of God, go ahead. We will be attentive.

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