Which Religion is the One True Religion?

@RonPrice,

What you have heard people say is a matter of indifference to me; i have no brief to defend the bible, or the quran or Shakespeare. Language only functions as communication when there is a consensus agreement about the meanings of words. Based on the meanings of the words in those three silly phrases at the end of your last post, that is gobbledygook. This is not just about "one person's reaction," it's about the language and the meanings of words. Those three quips are babble.

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Ron said: Nobel Laureate Nadine Gordimer writes in her introduction to the book that "For Mahfouz life is a search in which one must find one's own sign-posts."

I can see Satan's fingerprints right there!
That short sentence pushes the satanic message that we don't need Jesus's signposts, and that we must spend our whole life "searching".
Incidentally Bahai's don't believe Satan exists so there again we can see his fingerprints, Satan WANTS people to think he doesn't exist so they'll drop their guard and be easy meat for him!
Incidentally I'm not singling out Bahaism, as some "christian" cults also push satanic messages like "there's no hell" to make people drop their guard.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

These tele evangelists dont just accept money, they ask for it. The whole thing is a business model with a huge cash cow, making money on the faith of the populace. I watched a guy give a sermon, and at the end he sat down and spent the next 10 minutes offering his book, assuring salvation if you bought and read it at $19.95. This is no different to those in the temple who used gods house for profit. Christian profiteers are the worst kind of christian.

A Piece of advice for the catholics, Sell the vatican and you could feed the world. Christ would be proud.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

So this hell place is intended to make people fear your god? and you dont see satan's fingerprints in THAT? It is easy to see holes in other peoples beliefs.

You're not thinking Mick.

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Calamity said: Christian profiteers are the worst kind of christian....
So this hell place is intended to make people fear your god? and you dont see satan's fingerprints in THAT?

If you think profiteers are true Christians you must be as gullible as the mugs who give them money.. Wink

True Christians don't fear hell, why should they? True Christians die laughing.. Smile

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Do you not see why I cannot accept your loving god theory when you make claims like that?

Thats like saying if you behave I wont put both your eyes out with a poker and make you eat your own stomach.

Its not unloving because if you're good it wont happen.

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@Calamity Dal,

Murderers, rapists, peedos, perverts, thieves, con men, liars, corrupt politicians, phoney religionists etc are going to be slung into hell.
Judgement Day is the day God throws out the human trash, you have a problem with that?.. Wink

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Sidestepping my point was entirely expected.
I have no problem with the removal of the wicked, it is the eternal torment that I have a problem with. It doesn't equate. You just told me that hell is necessary as a preventative measure against those that might disobey your god. That your god rules with fear, but you dont see how that is the slightest bit contradictory to your loving god theory?

THINK. You say your god is such as this

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Be good or I will burn you and torment you for eternity, you will suffer far more than you can ever imagine.
Its not unloving because if you're good it wont happen.

Have you looked into the history of how the teaching of hell came to your christianity? Your christians have absorbed so many teachings from outside itself that it doesn't know who its god is any more.

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When the body dies, the soul automatically flies through the 'Jesus Stargate' if we've locked onto him during our lives-
Jesus said - "Enter through the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it,but small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it" (Matt 7:13)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/stargateJesus.gif~original

But an unlocked soul flies off into nowhere, they rejected Jesus and brought it on themselves, seems fair enough to me.. Smile

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"Ungodly men, wandering stars for whom the blackness of darkness is reserved forever" (Jude 1:4-19)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/freakouteyes.jpg

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@Romeo Fabulini,

so now you say hell doesn't exist?

Says in your scripture there that those not finding life find destruction, darkness and blackness. No Interpreting everlasting suffering from that.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

WHEN the body dies? I thought you said the dead were dead?

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Im reading jude 1 and I dont see the words you state are there, are you paraphrasing or are you using a translation Im not familiar with?

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@RonPrice,

RonPrice wrote:

When you say, blueveinedthrobber, that you "believe in a creator God, that Jesus was a man who walked the Earth and gave people a blueprint on how they should live their lives, that he was crucified for standing up for his beliefs and threatening the established Church's bottom line, that's the only reason you need to respect him, and that all the other crap is just that, created by "Christians" to establish themselves as a powerful entity," I think you are partly right and partly wrong. Belief is in some ways quite a complex subject, although whom the gods would destroy they first make simple, then simpler and then simplest.-Ron

Actually, Ron...in the arena of religion, especially about the existence of gods and the nature of those gods...it is not complex at all.

All you do is make a blind guess (like: There is a GOD...and you can find out what pleases and offends that GOD by reading this or that book)...and then call that "blind guess" a belief.

That's all there is to it. Nothing very complex at all.

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@Frank Apisa,

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That's all there is to it. Nothing very complex at all.

Apisa, with his notorious arrogance, has assumed the guess has no rhyme or reason to it. As if it is picket out of a hat.

As that is not the case his post is stupid drivel and assumes we are all saps.

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@Frank Apisa,

And to say that the process is not very (sic) complex is a mark of the utterest stupidity and over-weening arrogance.

In the case of a Catholic person the educational process which causes the belief is irreducibly complex. The belief is not a guess. Apisa imagines we are clockwork toys. Not him of course. He is contemplating us.

And in the case of those academics and politicians who come to a belief in Catholic dogma late in life the conversion process is also complex but not irreducibly so because they can give their reasons having got them from the likes of George Dwyer, Bishop of Leeds and Archbishop of Birmingham, whose Masters thesis was on Baudelaire, and who could eat out well at events where having the Archbishop condescend the say Grace was quite a little feather in the cap.

What a mutt Apisa is. He doesn't like the Church's attitude to his dick-work. That's all there is to it. Nothing very complex at all. As I am quite sure every experienced lady reading here will confirm.

One has to wonder how he came to believe that ladies with plate lips, 16 inch necks, bones through flat noses, steatopygia and, cushions fastened to their backs or wearing a sardonic smirk, are not sexy in the Madison Ave "Hottie" sense. Steatopygia was even faked by ladies of fashion in the prudish Victorian era. Often grossly so.

Looked at in the same way he looked at belief Hottie was a blind guess and no doubt he looked in lots of books and magazines to find out what was pleasing to him.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

And to say that the process is not very (sic) complex is a mark of the utterest stupidity and over-weening arrogance.

It's about as complex as his guesses about centaurs and jinn.

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@InfraBlue,

InfraBlue wrote:

spendius wrote:

And to say that the process is not very (sic) complex is a mark of the utterest stupidity and over-weening arrogance.

It's about as complex as his guesses about centaurs and jinn.

The process of "belief" is NOT complex at all, InfraBlue.

You make a guess (in the case of gods, a "blind guess") about something unknown...and call the guess a "belief."

Often, you also add that "beliefs" ought to be paid respect.

It would be stupid to keep the blind guess as a blind guess...and say the blinde guess ought to be paid respect.

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@Calamity Dal,

Calamity Dal wrote:

so now you say hell doesn't exist?

Says in your scripture there that those not finding life find destruction, darkness and blackness. No Interpreting everlasting suffering from that.

actually no that doesn't sound like everlasting suffering to me at all. It sounds like...bye bye you will now cease to exist in any form. That seems reasonable to me if one accepts the premise of karma, judgment and justice.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

. . ..."Ungodly men, wandering stars for whom the blackness of darkness is reserved forever" (Jude 1:4-19)

15 verses compressed into one. Where, exactly are these words to be found? You wouldn't be trying to hoodwink us, would you, Romeo?

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@RonPrice,

The man of many words serves another smorgasbord of obfuscation.

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