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Which Religion is the One True Religion?

 
 
timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 09:59 am
RexRed wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:

Don't try to bullshyt Set, Life...you are way, way, way out of your league here!


I don't think so...


That makes one of us. Gotta admire your pluck - sorta reminds me of a knight I saw once in a Monty Python movie.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 10:06 am
Intrepid wrote:
It can also be a case of HOW you ask. How is the heart's attitude etc.


Yes, there are several aspects that revolve around HOW prayers are to be conducted and why they are answered.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 10:07 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
No, not really. After I tell her I don't believe in prayer, it's not my place to control what she does. Thank you doesn't come to mind, but it's harmless either way.



Your sister prays for you and you pray for no one?
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 10:31 am
I s'pose, given that "No" and "Deal with it; s(tuff) happens" are answers, one might say "all prayers are answered".
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 01:15 pm
Prayer does not work; nature/environment controls almost everything in our lives. Earthquakes, tsunamis, and floods are indiscriminate natural disasters; prayer is not an option for survival. Luck can help sometimes.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 01:19 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Prayer does not work; nature/environment controls almost everything in our lives. Earthquakes, tsunamis, and floods are indiscriminate natural disasters; prayer is not an option for survival. Luck can help sometimes.


I am amazed at your knowledge on prayer and God's ways. Where did you get this vast knowledge? You state that prayer does not work. What is it that you expect the working of a prayer to be? Have you ever prayed? Have you ever experienced the effects of prayer?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 01:25 pm
Intrepid wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Prayer does not work; nature/environment controls almost everything in our lives. Earthquakes, tsunamis, and floods are indiscriminate natural disasters; prayer is not an option for survival. Luck can help sometimes.


I am amazed at your knowledge on prayer and God's ways. Where did you get this vast knowledge? You state that prayer does not work. What is it that you expect the working of a prayer to be? Have you ever prayed? Have you ever experienced the effects of prayer?


Do you mean the gas???

Hey...on a serious note about prayer...

...have you ever seen Pat Robertson doing one of his prayer things...eyes closed, face all scrunched up and such.

Tell me...and be truthful...doesn't it look like he is in the middle of a bowl movement...and trying to pass a stool the size of an NFL football?

Same thing with Jerry Falwell!
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 01:55 pm
Interesting observation there, Frank. Now that you mention it, it does sorta bring to mind the old expression, "full of it", doesn't it?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 01:58 pm
A prayer for health
Scientists attempt to measure what religions accept on faith
By Alice Dembner, Globe Staff | July 25, 2005

In nearly every faith, for thousands of years, congregations have regularly gathered to pray for the sick. In the United States, prayer is the most frequently used form of alternative medicine.

While many believers accept on faith that such prayers help patients get better, scientists are increasingly attempting to measure the effect of prayer on patients' health. Several major studies of prayer are underway or recently completed, including some funded by the federal government. One of the most scientifically rigorous studies yet, published earlier this month, found that the prayers of a distant congregation did not reduce the major complications or death rate in patients hospitalized for heart treatments.
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real life
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 06:44 pm
Setanta,

I absolute did edit my post for clarity. Never denied it. The first post was unclear and did not convey my intended meaning, being written in a hurry and in the midst of several other tasks.

I suppose that you have never edited a post. Congratulations on your perfection.

Your absolute tizzy over this , however, is hysterical. I think I will do it again sometime just to watch you lose it.

Thanks for the laugh. You get more entertaining all the time.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 06:53 pm
real life wrote:
Setanta,

I absolute did edit my post for clarity. Never denied it. The first post was unclear and did not convey my intended meaning, being written in a hurry and in the midst of several other tasks.

I suppose that you have never edited a post. Congratulations on your perfection.

Your absolute tizzy over this , however, is hysterical. I think I will do it again sometime just to watch you lose it.

Thanks for the laugh. You get more entertaining all the time.


This absolutely dishonest of you. The post you originally wrote, reads:

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When you tell someone " I love you, " do you ask them to test and replicate that with an independent third party before you accept it as true?


Which you edited to read:

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When someone says, " I love you, " do you ask them to test and replicate that with an independent third party before you accept it as true?


Edited for clarity ? You lie. The entire substantial meaning of your post was changed by your edit. The purpose was clear, to attempt to remove the embarrassing evidence of a completely doofus posting--ill-considered, poorly written and lacking a logical basis in the context of the discussion as it had fallen out before then.

Your dishonesty does a disservice to Christians, who, for however much they may delude themselves, and unwittingly attempt to delude others, nevertheless practice honesty. I see no reason to again respond to your nonsense in the light of this attempt at willful deception on your part.
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real life
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 07:14 pm
Setanta wrote:
The entire substantial meaning of your post was changed by your edit.


The original post, if you read it, was grammatically unclear, asking if YOU do something what would YOUR reaction to it be.

Yes I edited it to make my meaning clear, since it was poorly and hurriedly written.

Did this change the meaning of the post? Well since the meaning of the first post wasn't clear and the edited one (hopefully) was, the answer is of course it should have.

Your apoplectic reaction, however, is getting funnier by the moment. You react as if you were somehow embarrassed when it was my poor grammar and construction at issue. Get a grip, man.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 07:46 pm
You wouldn't know apoplexy if it bit you on the ass. You continue to back-peddle furiously, and to lie. I have nothing further to discuss with you, but don't flatter yourself than any of your silliness can raise my blood pressure, you're just not important to me in any way.
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real life
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 09:10 pm
I am going to have to make mistakes more often so I can correct myself.

Setanta, you do have good medical insurance with a mental health rider, don't you?
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 09:10 pm
RexRed wrote:
Ask and believe...

James 1:6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
"Rejoice in the hope. Endure under tribulation. Persevere in prayer."(Romans 12:12)
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 09:13 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Prayer does not work; nature/environment controls almost everything in our lives. Earthquakes, tsunamis, and floods are indiscriminate natural disasters; prayer is not an option for survival. Luck can help sometimes.
Rhetorical question: What about free will?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 09:15 pm
neologist, It's not a question. You must learn to read the English language. It's a statement; prayer does not work.
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real life
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 09:50 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
neologist, It's not a question. You must learn to read the English language. It's a statement; prayer does not work.


Hi CI,

A statement from you such as "I prayed and it did not work," would likely be deemed credible since you would be speaking of your own experience only.

To claim however that NO prayer has at ANY time worked would require omniscience on your part.

You are once again in the position of trying to prove a negative. Go ahead.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 10:10 pm
real life wrote:

To claim however that NO prayer has at ANY time worked would require omniscience on your part.


You claim that the opposite is true would require the same omniscience wouldn't it? You have no idea if god answered your prayer or if it were another force or nothing at all. Are you claiming to what god does when he does it?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 20 Aug, 2005 10:45 pm
"To claim however that NO prayer has at ANY time worked would require omniscience on your part.

You are once again in the position of trying to prove a negative. Go ahead."

I don't have to. Harvard did a study on prayer, and found no difference between no prayer and prayer for cancer patients.

If you doubt the study, you'll have to ask Harvard.
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