Which Religion is the One True Religion?

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There is no logic behind it and no evidence of it's veracity

Suppose for one second that everything in the bible is true...ok...now today we have a book that is the instruction manual to life, you say it is just a myth and that it is illogical because things in the bible don't happen today ie)we don't see him creating still....now why is it illogical to believe that he created once, he gave us a book that teaches how to live peacefully, why is that illogical?

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booman2 wrote:

God gave you a brain, USE IT, to dermine logical discourse from idiocy. Do you really thing a superior or supreme being, would create two people, tell them to not eat from a tree that "He" created... then create a talking snake to tempt a human being, that the SB had given the curiosity... etc., etc.,.

I feel silly trying to convince an intelligent being to use common sense.

He created man. After that, he created a companion for him. The tree represented the very first choice that mankind could make. We are not robots. We have the power of choice for a reason. And we were decieved into thinking that we would get unlimited knowledge by eating from the tree. Why did God introduce Satan into the world? To give us a choice between good and evil.

booman2 wrote:

00Agent Kid,
.....You might have overlooked the post just before yours, but does that common sense, use your brain thing mean anything to you? I realize individual thought and logical reasoning are an anathema to western religions, so I'm just asking......did you see it, and couldn't think of an answer, are what?

I overlooked it, not knowing that you were talking to me. I jumped into this thread about a page ago, and were just assuming that you were talking to someone else (as you didn't mention me in your first post).

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Thunder
Let's just agree to disagree and let it go at that.

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au1929 wrote:

Thunder
Let's just agree to disagree and let it go at that.

Okay. That's a nice way of saying that you have no way to back up your accusations. We have given a logical explanation of our views of the Bible. You have yet to show us anything.

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00 agent wrote

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Okay. That's a nice way of saying that you have no way to back up your accusations. We have given a logical explanation of our views of the Bible. You have yet to show us anything.

I thinking of a nice way of tell you to wake up and smell the roses. You should crawl out of your religious haze and come to grips with reality. There is no such thing as a logical explanation of the bible. Just the blind leading the blind.

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00 Agent Kid wrote:

He created man. After that, he created a companion for him. The tree represented the very first choice that mankind could make. We are not robots. We have the power of choice for a reason. And we were decieved into thinking that we would get unlimited knowledge by eating from the tree. Why did God introduce Satan into the world? To give us a choice between good and evil.

Good points. Do you think God introduced Satan into the world or is it likely that Satan introduced himself? He had (has) free will. When I first started studying the bible, I wondered why God would time Satan's rebellion before Adam and Eve had children, for if perfect children had been born things might have turned out differently.
I've since opined (without definitive proof) that Satan timed his rebellion, thinking perhaps that he could cause God to do one of two things:
1] Kill Adam and Eve on the spot and abandon his purpose regarding them.
2] Allow Adam and Eve to sin without punishment.
Door number one would lead to the conclusion that God is not "He who causes to become" since he could not fulfil his purpose.
Door number two would put into question God's truthfulness as well as his standard of justice.
The entire scenario raised the question of God's right to set standards for creation.
Assuming the entire universe was aware of these events, would you not expect God to answer the challenges?

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My bad 00,
At least it seems you take the bible as symbolic. I , for a long time, have believed the devil represents knowledge.

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Maybe by eating of this tree of knowledge, Adam and Eve received certain knowledge that they were not ready to handle.

Wouldn't that be like making a five-year-old head of a kingdom? Teaching five-year-olds about sex? A CEO with no training, no nothing?

When reading the Bible, shouldn't we use knowledge we've derived from other subjects? Like health, science, psychology, philosophy, literature, then include ALL religions?

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AMEN

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Thanks, Booman.

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You guys might like a comic strip I saw in the paper today. If you read "One Big Happy".... Stop reading this, I'm about to spill it.
...The Grandfather in the strip was attending a wake and talking to the widow of a friend. She said, "the church services will be held thursday." He Says, "I thought he was an atheist". She replied "He was, and that never changed." The Grandfather then deadpanned, "Poor Lenny, all dressed up, and no place to go." Laughing

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If you look at my username you can see that there was no way I could pass this thread up. Needless to say I believe that Christianity is the one true path to God that delivers on it's promises. (Now before some of you get the torches and pitchforks out to kill the monster I suggest you read on) I had never felt the love, acceptance, affirmation and guidance I feel in my relationship with God in any other thing I have ever done.
I was thirty nine when I chose to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and previously I had been a great many places and done a great many things. I tried to make lots of money and find comfort there. The money came and I could walk into most stores in my city and pay cash for most anything I would choose to buy. No satisfaction there. I tried to find the answer in drugs and found nothing there but a boring wasteland of self destruction. I tried to find the answer in knowledge and read and studied hundreds and hundreds of books. I would read five to ten books at the same time. There were books in the bedroom, books in the bathroom, books in the kitchen and I would read and study hours each day. No answer there.
I tried meditation and contemplation and transliteration (during my study of the Egyptian Book of the Dead) which only lead to my consternation.
As I continue to delve into the Bible I have found that it promises peace and I have found peace beyond understanding. It promises love between God and man which I have also found. It promises security in your inner being and I have found that.
Everything that I have found promised in the Bible that pertains to a believer in Christ I experience at one level or another. I do not claim to be perfect or better than anyone else. I just believe that Christianity is true and is the only way to relate to God. I hope that no one reading this thinks I am proselytizing because that is not my intent here. I am just responding to the theme of the thread and stating why I believe what I do.

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Welcome to the forum, gospelmancan2. I'm sure you will find a cornucopia of opinions. Enjoy!

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au1929 wrote:

00 Agent Kid wrote:
Okay. That's a nice way of saying that you have no way to back up your accusations. We have given a logical explanation of our views of the Bible. You have yet to show us anything.

I [was] thinking of a nice way of tell you to wake up and smell the roses. You should crawl out of your religious haze and come to grips with reality. There is no such thing as a logical explanation of the ible[,] [j]ust the blind leading the blind.

I consider myself to be open-minded. I do not blindly accept Christianity as the one true religion. I have studied many religions over the past few years (and have done so extensively this year thanks to my Global Studies class). After my studies, I have come to the conclusion that Christianity is the sole path to Heaven.

I would gladly listen to anything you have to say regarding your thoughts on the Bible. The problem is that you have not yet said anything.

Q: "Why do you not believe in the Bible?"
A: "It's fiction."
Q: "But why do you think that it is fiction?"
A: "It's fiction."
Q: "What led you to believe this?"
A: "Because it's fiction."

That's what I've been hearing from you over your last several posts in this thread. How do you expect a rebuttal when you offer nothing to refute against?

booman2 wrote:

My bad 00,
At least it seems you take the bible as symbolic. I , for a long time, have believed the devil represents knowledge.

I take the Bible as symbolic when it is clearly evident within the text that one should interpret it that way. I take it literally otherwise (i.e. Genesis).

I've never seen the devil represent knowledge. I thought that the Tree of Knowledge had that area covered.

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"I have studied many religions over the past few years (and have done so extensively this year thanks to my Global Studies class). After my studies, I have come to the conclusion that Christianity is the sole path to Heaven. "

And which particular bit of Christianity would that be?
Papist?
Lutheran
Coptic
Orthodox

enough there alone for a few really good wars

So you have taken a class in Global Studies. thats a big topic 00

Did you pass?

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Steve (as 41oo) wrote:

And which particular bit of Christianity would that be?
Papist?
Lutheran
Coptic
Orthodox

enough there alone for a few really good wars

There are many varieties of Christianity on Earth today. My youth minister showed me a list of about 300 different versions thereof. However, I really don't like to separate Christians into little man-made groups. I am a Christian.

Steve (as 41oo) wrote:

So you have taken a class in Global Studies. thats a big topic 00

Indeed it is. Over the year I've filled up two sections of a five star notebook and then some! Very Happy

Steve (as 41oo) wrote:

Did you pass?

The class will be over as of June 2nd (when school lets out). I've had an A in the first three quarters and have a strong A in there right now as well. We are currently studying the latter portion of Czarist Russia (From Alexander I and on) up through the entire history of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Very interesting stuff.

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well good for you 00

all sarcasm hereby deleted

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Yeah, but yer flag decal won't get you into heaven any more . . .

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Setanta wrote:

Yeah, but yer flag decal won't get you into heaven any more . . .

Now when did they make that change??? Crying or Very sad

Good grief what is this place coming to?

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Hearing two intelligent (bookwise) people in this thread make the statement that Jesus Christ is the only way of salvation reaffirms my belief that christianity is a dangerous cult. I mean for people to actually think the majority of people on earth will go to hell, no matter how well they carry themself, are good they are, because some book tells them to worship this MAN called Jesus is pure blasphemy.

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