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Which Religion is the One True Religion?

 
 
au1929
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 08:16 am
thunder_runner32
Indeed they are morons if the believe their bible or any bible did not come from the devious minds of men.
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thunder runner32
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 09:42 am
Actually.....I meant other people.
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booman2
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 09:55 pm
Ironically, christians worship the bible. catholics pray to dead MEN, and recieve their blessings from MEN!... go figure.
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thunder runner32
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2005 06:07 am
Where did you get the idea that we worship the bible?
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booman2
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2005 05:46 pm
When you take every word in it as the absolute truth. You take this paper as sacred, and not to be questioned.
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au1929
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2005 05:54 pm
It's not the bible they worship but the myths contained therein.
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booman2
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2005 06:23 pm
Er.. yeah ..okay...Six on one hand half a dozen on the other. But consider this my semantically driven friend; I'll bet in a crowd of christians, if you were to take a bible and spit on it, or rip out pages, your health could be at risk..... Remember when Sinead O'Connor tore up a picture of the Pope? ....... She was ostrasized the world over, for ripping a piece of paper with a picture of a man on it. People wanted her HURT! Shocked
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thunder runner32
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2005 06:22 am
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It's not the bible they worship but the myths contained therein.


Prove to me, without a shadow of a doubt, anything mythical about the bible...

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She was ostrasized the world over, for ripping a piece of paper with a picture of a man on it.


It has nothing to do with the fact that it is only a piece of paper (I thought that was pretty obvious) it has to do with a lack of respect. Non-christians are screaming for respect from the church toward Gays...yet it is funny how they are here, not even respecting the beliefs of the church. Somthing makes me think these people don't actually care about equality, but of destroying the church....stupid liberals
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2005 06:57 am
Thunder wrote
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Prove to me, without a shadow of a doubt, anything mythical about the bible


Anyone with half a brain could recognize it. But than I forget we are talking about the devout. Embarrassed .
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thunder runner32
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2005 08:55 am
Ok, how about some proof...
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2005 09:40 am
Thunder
That is like asking me to prove Grimms fairy tales are fiction.
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Anonymous
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2005 10:14 am
au1929, he's not asking for glib remarks. He's asking you to stop sidestepping the issue and answer it.
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2005 10:23 am
00 Agent Kid
It is a rediculous question that can not be answered. Asking someone to prove the bible is a book of fiction. I could as the same question could you offer proof the the bible is not? Why not ask for proof that there is or is not a God.
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booman2
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2005 04:08 pm
God gave you a brain, USE IT, to dermine logical discourse from idiocy. Do you really thing a superior or supreme being, would create two people, tell them to not eat from a tree that "He" created... then create a talking snake to tempt a human being, that the SB had given the curiosity... etc., etc.,.

I feel silly trying to convince an intelligent being to use common sense. Crying or Very sad
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Anonymous
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2005 05:38 pm
au1929 wrote:
00 Agent Kid
It is a rediculous question that can not be answered. Asking someone to prove the bible is a book of fiction. I could as the same question could you offer proof the the bible is not? Why not ask for proof that there is or is not a God.

You're right: You cannot ask for proof of God. Christianity is a religion (as well as all of the others who believe in god(s)). Faith is required in order to believe in God. If God gave us irrefutable proof of His existance, then why would faith be necessary?

A question for you, since you seem too stubborn to answer thunder_runner32's: What led you to believe that the Bible is fictional?
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booman2
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2005 06:04 pm
00Agent Kid,
.....You might have overlooked the post just before yours, but does that common sense, use your brain thing mean anything to you? I realize individual thought and logical reasoning are an anathema to western religions, so I'm just asking......did you see it, and couldn't think of an answer, are what?
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2005 06:09 pm
00 Agent Kid
The only proof that can be offered is that the bible reads like a fairy tale. There is no logic behind it and no evidence of it's veracity. One could just as easily believe in ghosts and goblins. How different is the story of the eating of the apple and pandoras box.
As for the tale of Noah


The catastrophic deluge which entered the
Black Sea, circa 7,500 years ago

Quotations

"The [Black Sea] flood is a fascinating story, all the better for being told by working scientists. What comes across clearly is the thrill of discovery....The mixture of disciplines and ways of doing science is exhilarating and paints a realistic picture of the way research works." Sue Bowler of the New Scientist.
"...an interesting and provocative story.... a detective story that rollicks along, sweeping up everything in its path..." Richard Ellis, The New York Times Book Review
"The Sumerian 'Deluge' story, the Akkakian 'Atrahasis' epic, the Epic of Gilgamesh, and Noah's Flood are 7000 year old echoes of this awesome event." A book reviewer from Arlington VA on the Amazon.com web site
Overview

Two senior scientists from Columbia University have proposed a theory that a massive transfer of water occurred about 5600 BCE - over seven and a half millennia ago. They wrote: "Ten cubic miles of water poured through each day, two hundred times what flows over Niagara Falls." "The Bosporus flume roared and surged at full spate for at least three hundred days." 60,000 square miles of land were inundated. 1 The Black Sea shoreline significantly expanded to the north and east. The lake's its water level was raised many hundreds of feet. It changed from a fresh-water landlocked lake into a salt water lake connected to the world's oceans.They have drawn on the findings of experts in agriculture, archaeology, genetics, geology, language, development of textiles and pottery, etc. They postulate that this deluge had catastrophic effects on the people living on the shore of the Black Sea. It triggered mass migrations across Europe and into the Near East, Middle East and Egypt. It may have been the source of many flood stories in the area. Some researchers believe that the story of Noah's flood in the Biblical book of Genesis is a myth that had its origin in this cataclysmic event.A book by William Ryan and Walter Pitman describes one of the most fascinating scientific puzzles of recent years. We found it far more riveting than any detective novel. 1Religious significance

About 300 cultures around the world have stories of a massive flood. 2 In Judeo-Christian countries, the most famous is the story of Noah's Flood, as recorded in the Bible: Genesis, chapters 6 to 8.The story of the  worldwide flood of Noah has fueled conflicts between geologists and Christians since the early 19th century - long before Darwin was born.  Conservative Christians generally believe that the the book of Genesis was written by Moses under the inspiration of God. Thus, the original Hebrew text of Genesis was preserved from all error. The worldwide flood happened just as Moses recorded it: all humans and animals were exterminated, except for those who made it to safety on the ark: 2 or 7 animals of each "kind," and Noah, his wife, and family. Considering the percentage of the human race who were killed, it can be argued that the universal flood was the largest genocide in history, involving the extermination of all almost every man, woman, youth, child, infant and newborn. The catastrophic filling of the Black Sea might have happened, but it is unrelated to the Noahic flood for three reasons:  The timing is wrong. The Noahic flood happened circa 2350 BCE; the Black Sea deluge apparently happened circa 5600 BCE, over three millennia earlier. 3
The area covered by the flood is wrong. The Noahic flood was universal -- it covered the entire world to a level above that of the tallest mountains. The Black Sea merely enlarged the borders of the lake to its present size, and raised it level by only a few hundred feet. The Genesis account states that God's intention was to exterminate the entire human race in the most complete act of genocide ever performed; he left only 8 people alive: Noah, his wife, three sons and three daughters-in-law. In order to accomplish this, then entire world must have been submerged in water.
God intentionally triggered the physical processes that would lead to the extermination of all of the land animals and all but eight humans in the flood because of humanity's sinful behavior. It was not an event that simply happened naturally, due to the rise in ocean levels. 
The reality of the worldwide flood forms a vital part of the belief system of conservative Christians -- particularly those who are Creation Scientists. They have based their theories of astrophysics, geology, paleontology, linguistics, and anthropology upon the creation, flood and Tower of Babel stories in the book of Genesis. In particular, they hold the universal flood responsible for the deposit of massive amounts of sediment in successive layers. This, in turn, solidified to produce the layers of rock observed by geologists.
Liberal Christians typically regard the Noahic, Babylonian, and hundreds of other flood stories as a myths. Many might linked in some way with a historical flood. The legend of a universal, worldwide flood, as in the Genesis account, might be an interesting myth with spiritual significance; however, it did not happen in reality. There is no source of sufficient water to produce a world-wide flood that covered the highest mountains. Even if it did happen, there is no place to which the flood waters could subside. Genesis was written over an interval of many centuries by at least five author/editors.  The universal flood story was derived from an earlier Babylonian myth by two of these authors. The Genesis flood myth is obviously based on an earlier Babylonian myth; there are many correspondences between the two legends. The Babylonian myth appears to be based on an earlier legend that, in turn, might well have been based on dimly remembered memories of the Black Sea catastrophe. 

If you and thunder choose to believe that is your prerogative but don't try to advance the idea that it is anything but blind faith that drives your belief. There is not a shred it of evidence that it is anything but myth.
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2005 06:18 pm
Regarding the question. Which is the true religion. If there is such a thing i would say Judaism. After all it was the foundation upon which both Islam and Christianity were built. In particular Christianity. Without Judaism they would have had to invent a new religion from scratch. Instead they were able to cherry pick from what was already available.
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booman2
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2005 06:37 pm
Actually, It is shown in many books that thosebbig three religions derived from ancient African religions.
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2005 06:58 pm
Jewish foundation of Christianity.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jf.htm
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