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Which Religion is the One True Religion?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 12 Aug, 2005 10:03 pm
"Are brothers and sisters allowed to marry?
Are fathers and daughters allowed to marry?
Are adults allowed to marry children?"

What has that got to do with anything? We're talking about gays and lesbians.

FYI, you should study Egyptian history. They allowed all on your list.
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 12 Aug, 2005 10:10 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
"Are brothers and sisters allowed to marry?
Are fathers and daughters allowed to marry?
Are adults allowed to marry children?"

What has that got to do with anything? We're talking about gays and lesbians.

FYI, you should study Egyptian history. They allowed all on your list.


So if any society on earth at anytime in history allowed anything, then we should allow it, too?

Write us from Egypt once in a while, will ya?

Oh and BTW, since this is your own personal standard of morality we are talking about, what YOU believe is right, and you have told us many times that your standard of right and wrong only applies to you and to no other---------then how come you are trying to get all of us to adopt your standard?
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mesquite
 
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Reply Fri 12 Aug, 2005 10:50 pm
real life wrote:
maporsche wrote:
mesquite wrote:

Now you have the best of both worlds. You can screw up big time and still have salvation, and you can still dip back into the old book to reinforce pet prejudices and bigotry.


Not to say the rest of your post wasn't good......but this comment is spectacular and 100% right on target.

I ask neologist, rexred, real life, and your ilk how you would respond directly to this quote?


Isn't the assumption that all religious folks are bigoted just another type of bigotry in itself?


Strange, I do not see that strawman "all religious folks are bigoted" in my comment. The wording is implying the religion is convenient to bigotry.
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 12 Aug, 2005 11:06 pm
mesquite wrote:
real life wrote:
maporsche wrote:
mesquite wrote:

Now you have the best of both worlds. You can screw up big time and still have salvation, and you can still dip back into the old book to reinforce pet prejudices and bigotry.


Not to say the rest of your post wasn't good......but this comment is spectacular and 100% right on target.

I ask neologist, rexred, real life, and your ilk how you would respond directly to this quote?


Isn't the assumption that all religious folks are bigoted just another type of bigotry in itself?


Strange, I do not see that strawman "all religious folks are bigoted" in my comment. The wording is implying the religion is convenient to bigotry.


The wording is about as overbroad a statement as one could make. Your assumption was given without qualification of any kind. Go ahead. Deny. Deny. Deny. Maybe some will believe you. I don't. Your pet prejudice is all too clear from this and many other posts.
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mesquite
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 12:11 am
real life wrote:
The wording is about as overbroad a statement as one could make. Your assumption was given without qualification of any kind. Go ahead. Deny. Deny. Deny. Maybe some will believe you. I don't. Your pet prejudice is all too clear from this and many other posts.


I am definitely an anti Bible guy. I would have thought that was obvious. There is enough taboos and venom in the Old testament to justify bigotry of almost anything humans do. Would you like to discuss that?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 02:52 am
real life wrote:
So it's ok for you to promote your views, but not ok for religious folks to promote their views?

Yes for you see, Setanta and the Setantites simply practice "free speech"; those bad guy religious folk "foist" their views on others. (Those wascally wabbits !!)

Ah yes "all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."


A typically insipid and vacuous response. I do not for a moment "promote my views." I don't discuss religion anywhere but in these fora. I do not suggest that anyone abandon their religious beliefs, even when they are as ludicrous and idiotic as are yours and RR's when you assert the "truth" of such nonsense as the biblical flood story. I do not and never have suggested that there be any laws against the idiocy religionists preach.

Religionists go from door to door. They stop people on the street. They picket abortion clinics (the worst cases bomb them). They rant on television. They attempt to foist their beliefs off on government and push a legislative agenda.

Keep you peurile snide comments to yourself. Your hypocricy is monumental.
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shiyacic aleksandar
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 04:05 am
Grief is caused, as joy is caused, by the attachment of the senses to objects; once you know that you are not the senses or the mind, but He who operates the senses and wields the mind, you cross the bounds of pleasure and pain. Separate yourself from the grief and you will find yourself the Emperor of your Realm. The senses and the mind, with all the attendant impulses, desires and attitudes become your servants, instruments that carry out your bidding.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 04:21 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
"...when/if I get there." I got good news and bad news for you, Intrepid. The good news is you'll die like everybody else and rot after the bugs take over your body. The bad news is, your body and whatever you call spirit (your brain activity) will disappear for eternity after you quit breathing for the last time. All the time and effort you wasted in thinking there is life after death is for naught. there is no god and there is no heaven or hell. It's only us and this planet earth.


Well...we really do not know that either, ci. But that is an interesting guess. Twisted Evil
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shiyacic aleksandar
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 04:36 am
Frank Apisa wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
"...when/if I get there." I got good news and bad news for you, Intrepid. The good news is you'll die like everybody else and rot after the bugs take over your body. The bad news is, your body and whatever you call spirit (your brain activity) will disappear for eternity after you quit breathing for the last time. All the time and effort you wasted in thinking there is life after death is for naught. there is no god and there is no heaven or hell. It's only us and this planet earth.


Well...we really do not know that either, ci. But that is an interesting guess. Twisted Evil


That what is born will certanly die...
Find what never takes birth nor dies and youll find the secret of immortality.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 05:10 am
Now, there's a wonderful example of meaningless. A more perfect example of the thoroughly circular absurdity of the religionist proposition would be difficult to invent. Great job, shyacic. Here, have a cracker.

http://digitalconsciousness.com/parrots/MVCrasky004F.JPG
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shiyacic aleksandar
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 05:35 am
Rise above your mechanical mind and youll understand My meaning.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 06:14 am
Oh, I understand your meaning, and its derivation, perfectly well. I just don't buy silly, mindless, comforting, self-righteous superstitions of any sort.

Again, lets get back to square one - what about the Abrahamic mythopaeia validates it - let alone elevates its Protestant Christian subset above any competing theo-philosophic myth system? What, apart from conviction and passion on the parts of its adherents, differentiates it, or any of them, from superstition?
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 06:36 am
shiyacic aleksandar wrote:
Rise above your mechanical mind and youll understand My meaning.


No, I have to agree with timberlandko. You sir, do nothing but spout complete nonsense or phrases of blatant obvious that look logical, but has barely no relevance to what we are discussing.

In your last post, you said:

shiyacic aleksandar wrote:
That what is born will certanly die...


You don't say? Goodness, what a revelation! I thought we would live forever! I thought we'd stay young forever and never die! (And just in case you didn't understand, I was being sarcastic).

shiyacic aleksandar wrote:
Find what never takes birth nor dies and youll find the secret of immortality.


My freaking panties! What a revelation! That was so blindingly obvious I can't [CENSORED] see! Where do you come up with this stuff? I must dissect your mind and find out the source of your brilliance! (End of Sarcasm)

Is there some kind of hamster inside there running a wheel? Maybe a sole green pea? Did you even read what CI and Frank posted?

Frank Apisa wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:

"...when/if I get there." I got good news and bad news for you, Intrepid. The good news is you'll die like everybody else and rot after the bugs take over your body. The bad news is, your body and whatever you call spirit (your brain activity) will disappear for eternity after you quit breathing for the last time. All the time and effort you wasted in thinking there is life after death is for naught. there is no god and there is no heaven or hell. It's only us and this planet earth.



Well...we really do not know that either, ci. But that is an interesting guess. Twisted Evil


They were talking about the afterlife, not eternal life in a body, which is clearly what you were talking about. And then you have the cheek to say our minds are too mechanical?

All minds are freaking mechanical. It's just that some have loose screws and some have lost their screws altogether.

As for the rest of your religious people, I have no qualms about religious people. Some of the friends I made could have been religious and were very nice, but I certainly didn't know they were religious because they saw it fit not to try to wear their religion on their sleeve, brandishing it about like some Gay Pride Flag.

The problem is that there's an influential number of religionists try their best to force their religion down our throat.

In our country, the teaching of Christianity in schools is enforced by law. Oh, but there's a number that aren't satisfied with that. They want Christianity to infiltrate every single lesson.

Thank Goodness they aren't in big numbers over here. But over there in the US. I can see loads. They're trying to force Christianity into the science classes with Creationism and ID, none of which are even proper science. They're influencing the President, they're trying to get therapeutic stem cell research banned...

Well, I don't know and I apologise to anyone who was offended, but I was pretty offended by some of the remarks in this thread.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 07:15 am
Frank Apisa wrote:
RexRed wrote:
I will be back with the sexuality/slave answers but I need a bit of time a strain in my back has been killing me and my computer is not helping it... Sad
I feel like I have given you the answers to that but I guess you all need them spelled right out, that is ok...

laters


Hey...whenever you complete the revisions and rationalizations necessary to "answer" the questions....

...we will be here to hear you out.

You've dodged the questions for so long...waiting a while longer shouldn't be a problem.


I have not dodged the question you have dodged the answer.

If God abolished the law then what do you think his opinion of the law was?

If there is nether male not female or bond or free then what do you think God's opinion of sexual identity is?
You have got to be really thick to not understand that.

I have been quoting these NT scriptures for years to you yet you still keep quoting OT scriptures back.

YOU cannot learn Frank!

You are not quoting them (YOUR hate scriptures) because you want to understand you are quoting them to needle me.

You are a bigot...

No Christian has EVER needled me even on the NUMEROUS times you have felt it prudent to announce to everyone in this chat and ABUZZ that I may be gay...

Does it make you feel better to call another person Gay? I am sure you will say no but you do it so often that you must get something from it. You refuse to even consider that God does not REALLY care what I do with my body but God cares about what I do with my spirit...

You do not insult me you insult yourself...

This is not a big answer nor a rationalization....

Now think real hard Frank...

THERE IS NEITHER BOND NOR FREE, MALE NOR FEMALE.... FOR ALL ARE ONE...

THAT is the true God of the Bible!

I do not have to jump any hoops to believe that... I just have to recognize the spirit within me and value that above my own "spirit".

That and, moderation in all things, love the lord thy God and love thy neighbor as thyself, says it all.

So your rejection and hatred of God is WORSE than murder and any sin your pea brain can think up...

The unforgivable sin is rejection of God's spirit...

Think on these words...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 08:18 am
Here is a interesting site:

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/hegel/
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 09:03 am
mesquite wrote:
real life wrote:
The wording is about as overbroad a statement as one could make. Your assumption was given without qualification of any kind. Go ahead. Deny. Deny. Deny. Maybe some will believe you. I don't. Your pet prejudice is all too clear from this and many other posts.


I am definitely an anti Bible guy. I would have thought that was obvious. There is enough taboos and venom in the Old testament to justify bigotry of almost anything humans do. Would you like to discuss that?


I would feel the same way if I had denied God and the devil...
You deny human dualism and spiritual dualism no wonder you are "confused" about the Bible...

Adam and Eve gave dominion over the world to the devil this was BEFORE the laws...

Yet even in Eden God told the Devil that Christ Jesus was coming to undo the devil's captivity over humans...

Jesus Christ is called "The Red Thread" because he is the subject of every book in the Bible.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 09:09 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
It's not faith that makes me believe I am right. It's the obvious errors, omissions, and contradictions of religion. To believe in any religion, one must sacrifice logic and science.


Obvious to you in your own mind which is to say the least... bitter...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 09:12 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
If you must sacrifice logic and science, that's your choice to remain a christian. Awful big sacrifice for keeping faith with a religion that promises much, but offers nothing in return except discrimination against gays and lesbians and approving slavery. Have you stoned anyone lately for not keeping the faith?


I don't see that Intrepid has sacrificed science but I sense that you have sacrificed God and Christ...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 09:13 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
I know, you love gays and lesbians, but don't approve of the sinful liffestyle. That's the reason the fundamental christians in this country doesn't allow gay marriage. FYI, unequal treatment for any reason is called "discrimination."

Fundametnalist christians are also trying to include ID into our educational system. ID is not science.


Um... you don't not have to love the actions of people to love them...
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 09:15 am
CI has probably never read that Jesus hates the sin, but loves the sinner.
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