Which Religion is the One True Religion?

Frank Apisa wrote:

RexRed wrote:

Here is an interesting passage...

Kings 19:11 And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake:
12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.

Here is an even more interesting one:

"If a man has a stubborn and unruly son who will not listen to
his father or mother, and will not obey them even though they
chastise him, his father and mother shall have him apprehended
and brought out to the elders at the gate of his home city, where
...his fellow citizens shall stone him to death." Deuteronomy 22:18ff

Certainly not the kind of god to spare the rod or spoil the child....you gotta give it that.

Yes Frank, it is called teens on death row.

It happens in this country too... does that make America and a tradition of US judges barbaric?

We have over a million mexican "slaves" in this country and we have homosexuals/adulterers TODAY stoning "themselves" with promiscuous sex...

and your point? is?

These are still valid issues even today and you obviously have no concept of laws used as deterrence...

Frank Apisa wrote:

shiyacic aleksandar wrote:

You can choose your action mode,there is no doubt!
You are in the Gods park(earths globe) and you deny His property!
It is very childish,it makes me laugh..
Every one can do whatever he likes in His garden because hes merciful and like a very good Father very tolerant!
ultimatly you will have to recognize the holy Truth which is :we are all divine sparks.We come from God and we return to God. :wink:

And then again...maybe that is all a bunch of bullshyt...and there are no gods.

You really ought to stop touting your pulled-from-thin-air guesses as knowledge, SA.

Frank, you do not know he is guessing... you can only speak for yourself... unless you have some sort of telepathy...

You are so "sure" we cannot know God... I would like to know how you are so SURE of this...

Amigo wrote:

RexRed wrote:

Amigo wrote:

Religion is a product of man not god.It is as flawed and self-rightous as men.So I believe there can be no one true Religon.None of them could be totally right.Only god is perfect.Religion is not an answer it's a barrier.

What would you prefer a barrier between you and people or a barrier between you and God?

I don't prefer either but if I had to I would choose a barrier between me and god.It would be selfish to choose god over people. We the living. Thats what matters, not god.What point are you trying to demonsrate

Yea, let's ignore our creator so we can pretend we are Gods...

Then we don't have to worry about the "self-righteous" Bible... (sarcasm)


Ro 10:3
For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

Php 3:9
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

To clarify it is the year 5766 according to the Hebrew calendar. Since the story of creation is from the Hebrew bible it safe to say if you believe and continually reference one you should believe the other. :wink:

RexRed wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

RexRed wrote:

Here is an interesting passage...

Kings 19:11 And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake:
12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.

Here is an even more interesting one:

"If a man has a stubborn and unruly son who will not listen to
his father or mother, and will not obey them even though they
chastise him, his father and mother shall have him apprehended
and brought out to the elders at the gate of his home city, where
...his fellow citizens shall stone him to death." Deuteronomy 22:18ff

Certainly not the kind of god to spare the rod or spoil the child....you gotta give it that.

Yes Frank, it is called teens on death row.

No...it is not called "teens on death row." At least, not by anyone who is not so goddam terrified of that pathetic god you worshipl.

Teens on death row are there because they have killed someone....not because they were stubborn and unruly.

Wake the hell up?

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It happens in this country too... does that make America and a tradition of US judges barbaric?

Wake up. Stop making excuses for the barbaric god.

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We have over a million mexican "slaves" in this country and we have homosexuals/adulterers TODAY stoning "themselves" with promiscuous sex...

and your point? is?

My point is that the god of the Bible is a murderous barbarian...and that if the advice he doles out were to be given by a human here in the United States...he would be confined to a hospital for the criminally insane.

I thought you realized that, Rex.

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These are still valid issues even today and you obviously have no concept of laws used as deterrence...

If you want to think it is okay to have a person stoned to death because he is stubborn and unruly....that is your prerogative.

I personally think only a nut case of the highest order would ever feel that way.

I had to look up "foist" and "dissoiative".Did you see the qustion rex asked me.Strange

Oh fer crissake . . . are these clowns still tryin' to peddle a flood story ?

To see people go online and try to foist that sort of crap off has a dissociative effect--rather like looking over in the next lane and seeing a cave man driving a Porsche . . .

He made a typo, Neo, lighten up . . .

I'm not iron-clad, i simply scoff at the attempts of others to make me a figure of fun . . . usually, they are left to the desparate device of making comments about the dogs in my avatar photo, which i ignore . . .

Frank Apisa wrote:

RexRed wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

RexRed wrote:

Here is an interesting passage...

Kings 19:11 And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake:
12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.

Here is an even more interesting one:

"If a man has a stubborn and unruly son who will not listen to
his father or mother, and will not obey them even though they
chastise him, his father and mother shall have him apprehended
and brought out to the elders at the gate of his home city, where
...his fellow citizens shall stone him to death." Deuteronomy 22:18ff

Certainly not the kind of god to spare the rod or spoil the child....you gotta give it that.

Yes Frank, it is called teens on death row.

No...it is not called "teens on death row." At least, not by anyone who is not so goddam terrified of that pathetic god you worshipl.

Teens on death row are there because they have killed someone....not because they were stubborn and unruly.

Wake the hell up?

Quote:

It happens in this country too... does that make America and a tradition of US judges barbaric?

Wake up. Stop making excuses for the barbaric god.

Quote:

We have over a million mexican "slaves" in this country and we have homosexuals/adulterers TODAY stoning "themselves" with promiscuous sex...

and your point? is?

My point is that the god of the Bible is a murderous barbarian...and that if the advice he doles out were to be given by a human here in the United States...he would be confined to a hospital for the criminally insane.

I thought you realized that, Rex.

Quote:

These are still valid issues even today and you obviously have no concept of laws used as deterrence...

If you want to think it is okay to have a person stoned to death because he is stubborn and unruly....that is your prerogative.

I personally think only a nut case of the highest order would ever feel that way.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21
18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.


Comment: First you have got to get the scripture reference right... Remember, I look these things up

The King James Bible sheds more light on this.

This child referred to in the scripture was a drunkard and not just "unruly".

We have jails for drunks today...

...did this little Hebrew tribe in the desert have a jailhouse for the habitual drunks? No, they were at their mercy every time they tipped the bottle. Again you do not see the value of deterrence.

Frank, give the Hebrews an inch and you might gain the world...

Frank

I think it is a contradiction to call God a barbarian...

God never threw a stone...

He only (the Bible says) made a set of laws that he was at first unwilling to give.

Why would God be hesitant to give the law?

Would God who is so etherial give law?

Is there a set of laws that can truly guide a person in every situation?

What about grace and mercy how can they exist in a system of laws?

If a judge shows favoritism toward one person and not toward another is there a law for that too?

Frank, you want a black and white answer and God gave the law to show the absence of mercy/grace so as to provoke the human spirit to grow and develop toward a more tolerant society...

Do you think God would actually write laws?

I think laws are a poor desperate attempt to counterfeit the true nature and power of the holy spirit...

Laws cannot dictate love, love must come from within.. Love must come from reason, logic and a fair shake with God... not an ordinance and a mandate.

The old testament was the best that holy people could do in spiritually dark deficient times...

...yet, today we can "know" the holy spirit...

Ephesians 3:14-21

14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,
21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.


peace with God...

I'm not iron-clad, i simply scoff at the attempts of others to make me a figure of fun . . . usually, they are left to the desparate device of making comments about the dogs in my avatar photo, which i ignore . . .

shiyacic aleksandar wrote:

You can choose your action mode,there is no doubt!
You are in the Gods park(earths globe) and you deny His property!
It is very childish,it makes me laugh..
Every one can do whatever he likes in His garden because hes merciful and like a very good Father very tolerant!
ultimatly you will have to recognize the holy Truth which is :we are all divine sparks.We come from God and we return to God. :wink:

And then again...maybe that is all a bunch of bullshyt...and there are no gods.

You really ought to stop touting your pulled-from-thin-air guesses as knowledge, SA.