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Justice Anton Scalia Reportedly Found Dead At Texas Resort

 
 
blatham
 
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Reply Tue 16 Feb, 2016 05:36 pm
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While much of the immediate focus after Scalia's death over the weekend was on the long game of who replaces him, and when, the impact is far more immediate and potentially historic. Even if a Republican president ultimately names Scalia's successor, the conservative legal movement will have suffered a dramatic setback by virtue of how many important cases it had queued up for this year that will be thrown into turmoil by a court with only eight justices and the potential for 4-4 tie votes.

With a number of high-stakes cases at or heading towards the Supreme Court, conservative legal advocates face a situation where they are unlikely to get the sweeping decisions they were hoping for, especially in the cases specifically designed to roll back progressive policies. Even any favorable outcomes in some of the test cases they lined up for the high court are now in jeopardy.
http://bit.ly/1Wqro5x

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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 16 Feb, 2016 05:54 pm
These people are so sleazy. You see it again and again but they continually surprise simply by virtue of their lack of virtue.
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“I think we fall into the trap if just simply say sight unseen, we fall into the trap of being obstructionists,” [GOP Sen Thom] Tillis told The Tyler Cralle Show

Fall into a trap? A nefarious trap set by whom? Within 12 minutes of the announcement of Scalia's death, Republicans began insisting on obstruction, including McConnell within two hours. This is their own doing but they're going to lie about that.
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He said Republicans' concern is that Obama would nominate someone who is "ideologically aligned” with him, and "that's out of step with the American people.”

"If he puts forth someone that we think is in the mold of President Obama’s vision for America, then we’ll use every device available to block that nomination,” Tillis continued.
http://bit.ly/1WqtbYg
He got elected as President by American citizens. Twice. Americans elected him twice because they just hate his vision for America?

None of what Tillis is saying here is remotely rational. None of it is anywhere near the neighborhood of honesty. These people have become despicable. He could be honest. He could say, "Listen, we Republicans do not agree with Obama's ideas and policies. We don't agree with his vision of America. We think Americans made a wrong decision in electing him and we think we will win the next election because Americans have, we believe, reviewed the last 7 years and found it wanting. So if he chooses a nominee for the court who clearly thinks like he does, we will fight against that nomination. And by the way, I think we made a strategic error in showing our obstructionism so obviously and so immediately. That was dumb."

That would have some integrity.
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 16 Feb, 2016 06:03 pm
Good for Gonzales. That such sanity is so rare right now ought to sober a hell of a lot of people who are presently unsoberized.
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Alberto Gonzales, who served as attorney general under President George W. Bush, broke from Republican Party line by suggesting repeatedly over the weekend that a nomination to the Supreme Court to replace the late Justice Antonin Scalia shouldn't wait for the next president.

"If the shoe were on the other foot, and there was a Republican in the White House and Democratically controlled Congress, I would expect the Republican president to make a nomination when ready of a qualified individual," Gonzales said on the BBC.
http://bit.ly/1WqtTVz
blatham
 
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Reply Tue 16 Feb, 2016 06:21 pm
Jesus christ in heaven. Here's another one.
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"Our strongest strategy is to not have hearings,'' Curt Levey, the executive director of FreedomWorks Foundation and a veteran of past Supreme Court nomination fights, told reporters on a conference call. "This is about the right of the American people to wait until November... To hold a hearing is to put the focus on the nominee rather than the situation."
http://bloom.bg/1WquZAv
This "right" is, of course, explicitly written into nothing. He's just lying through his teeth. What IS written into the constitution is the responsibility of the President to name another justice and put him up for consideration. And these turkeys love the constitution so very, very much.

But let's get real here. Freedom Works is a/the main front group for the Koch brothers and allies, many with billions of dollars at stake in SC decisions.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 16 Feb, 2016 06:30 pm
@blatham,
They sometims pull whole sections of the Middle Earth Constitution out of their asses.

Obama' little news clip today assured us that he would nominate a ell qualified candidate for the USSC and that he was unaware if any place in the Constitution that mentioned anything about waiting till after an election.
He said something like "Show me the page cavron"
blatham
 
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Reply Tue 16 Feb, 2016 06:35 pm
@farmerman,
This very bright and honest piece by Francis Wilkinson, gets it.
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Republicans insist on strictly following the Constitution. Just not right now. Now is special, they say. Now is not the time to resort to a nitpicky document drawn up by bewigged ancients.
http://bv.ms/1WqvWsM
But you've totally lost me with that reference. Even the godlike google machine was of no help at all.
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 16 Feb, 2016 07:23 pm
In all of this damned Scalia kerfuffle, can we please get at least one thing straight here.

If Ted Cruz becomes the next president and if Justice Ginsberg passes away during Cruz's four year term, he will, to a certainty, nominate a replacement justice in the Ginsberg tradition. This is without a doubt and completely beyond question.
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Fox's Newt Gingrich: Obama Should Ask Conservative Senators To Recommend A Justice "In The Scalia Tradition"
http://mm4a.org/1WqzgnM
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 17 Feb, 2016 03:12 am
From Garry Wills at New York Review of Books.
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No sooner was Antonin Scalia dead than Republicans said that his seat should not be filled before the election of a new president. Senator Mitch McConnell said this will let the American people “have a voice” in who the new justice will be. Senator Kelly Ayotte said “Americans deserve an opportunity to weigh in” on the matter. And Senator Ted Cruz, the presidential candidate, Senate Judiciary Committee member, and self-styled guardian of the Constitution, wrote on Twitter, “We owe it to him, [Scalia] & the Nation, for the Senate to ensure that the next President names his replacement.” That is, we owe it to the archetypal originalist, where the Constitution is concerned, to ignore and defy the original Constitution.
http://bit.ly/1TqcaPV
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 17 Feb, 2016 06:07 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
What IS written into the constitution is the responsibility of the President to name another justice and put him up for consideration. And these turkeys love the constitution so very, very much.

Oh good grief. Would you Liberals quite whining already. No one is preventing Mr. Obama from putting a nominee forward. They are only going to refuse to confirm his nominees, just like the Democrats did to the Bush Administration back in 2008.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 17 Feb, 2016 08:50 am
@oralloy,
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just like the Democrats did to the Bush Administration back in 2008.

You keep saying that. I don't think it means what you think it means.
In 2008, the Senate confirmed 28 justices nominated by Bush.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_George_W._Bush

The only name you came up with them blocking was Bolton who withdrew from consideration in 2006, which isn't 2008 no matter how much you spin it, after being appointed during a recess to UN Ambassador and the senate not being happy about it.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2016 07:21 am
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Q. When was the last time there was a major ideological shift on the court?

...In 2006, Justice Alito, a conservative, moved the court to the right when he replaced Justice O’Connor, a moderate. But the most important switch in recent decades was the appointment of Justice Clarence Thomas, the most conservative member of the court in modern times, to replace Justice Thurgood Marshall, the most liberal.

“The importance of the change in the court’s jurisprudence that is directly attributable to the choice of Clarence Thomas to fill the vacancy created by Thurgood’s retirement cannot be overstated,” Justice Stevens wrote in his 2011 memoir. Should President Obama succeed in appointing a replacement for Justice Scalia, that move could be just as consequential."
http://nyti.ms/1Tsgm1B
blatham
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2016 07:22 am
@blatham,
ps... Linda Greenhouse at the Times has a column up today on Scalia. Must read.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2016 07:28 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Good for Gonzales. That such sanity is so rare right now ought to sober a hell of a lot of people who are presently unsoberized.
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Alberto Gonzales, who served as attorney general under President George W. Bush, broke from Republican Party line by suggesting repeatedly over the weekend that a nomination to the Supreme Court to replace the late Justice Antonin Scalia shouldn't wait for the next president.

"If the shoe were on the other foot, and there was a Republican in the White House and Democratically controlled Congress, I would expect the Republican president to make a nomination when ready of a qualified individual," Gonzales said on the BBC.
http://bit.ly/1WqtTVz


"If the shoe were on the other foot, and there was a Republican in the White House and Democratically controlled Congress, I would expect the Republican president to make a nomination when ready of a qualified individual, and the Democrat Congress to obstruct and filibuster any such nomination."

Fixed. Obama filibustered Alito didn't he?
blatham
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2016 08:23 am
@McGentrix,
First, the point of Gonzales' statement is to affirm the constitutional duty of the President to put forward a nominee. Do you disagree with Gonzales?

Second, Obama did join the filibuster. But he did so in the context of knowing it would not succeed. And knowing Alito would arrive at the SC which, of course, happened.

So, would you be happy if McConnell and others made a stance against an Obama nominee but doing so only in the contest of knowing that their attempt to stop it would fail?
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2016 08:35 am
Here are the outside groups demanding the Republicans obstruct Obama in nominating a new SC justice... http://bit.ly/1TsnwCZ

It's possible you might find one or two who are not funded by (or who were not set up by) the Koch brothers' operation, but I doubt it very much.

The GOP, as we once knew it, has become gradually subsumed by these guys. The modern polarization and anti-government radicalism is the consequence.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2016 11:21 am
The disingenuous faux outrage from the Left is hilarious. I don't know how their faces don't crack while making these hypocritical comments. They should just admit it's killing them that Obama won't be able to replace Scalia with a liberal and stack the deck.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2016 11:30 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
I have to agree that we see the planet from two very different survey points. Im laughing at how the GOP is trying to celebrate its faux "worship" of Originalism (until it gets in their way of accruing power).

Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2016 11:35 am
@farmerman,
Fair enough.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2016 12:09 pm
@farmerman,
I find it amusing watching the left discuss how absolutely clear the Constitution is on getting a Supreme Court Judge yet the second amendment is as murky as mud for them. It's like the Constitution only reads what they want it to.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2016 12:17 pm
@McGentrix,
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I find it amusing watching the left discuss how absolutely clear the Constitution is on getting a Supreme Court Judge

Actually the left is saying what the CONSTITUTION DOES NOT SAY about "waiting till the next president"
Some of the problems of the party system we live beneath.

IS the Constitution a living document??

If McConnells way prevails, then so should the issues of the Second amendment and gun control. BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT YOU PREACH.

EIther way its fascinating living in "interesting times"
 

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