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Justice Anton Scalia Reportedly Found Dead At Texas Resort

 
 
McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2016 12:20 pm
@farmerman,
Until Obama puts up a candidate and the Senate does it's thing, it's political hot air so far as I am concerned. Another day at the retarded office of Congress. They can bluster and bluff and bully all day. But until an actual action is taken, or not taken in this case, it's all just hot air.
revelette2
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2016 12:37 pm
If it were closer to November 2016 I could understand waiting until the election and it would be in keeping with past precedence's, but it is not, Obama has 11 months left in office, plus consider how long it takes to nominate and confirm a supreme court justice. Consider how many cases are coming up to be decided with a vacant seat. In any case, the chances of republican president in 2016 are pretty slim, slimmer if Trump defies conventional wisdom and becomes the republican nominee notwithstanding Orally's one horse theme of the 2013 gun debate.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2016 09:45 pm
@revelette2,
If th court hears these cases and it upholds the appeals court decision, then watch whose gonna be crying foul for NOT having an ample supply of Supreme Court judges on board
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2016 09:50 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:

Until Obama puts up a candidate and the Senate does it's thing, it's political hot air so far as I am concerned
what? all of a sudden you display reticence?
blatham
 
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Reply Fri 19 Feb, 2016 04:02 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
Re: McGentrix (Post 6129112)
Quote:
Until Obama puts up a candidate and the Senate does it's thing, it's political hot air so far as I am concerned
what? all of a sudden you display reticence?

Odd shift there, wasn't it.

I'm very curious to see whether Roberts is going to say something now. This from two weeks ago where he bemoaned the growing perception of the SC as a political entity...
Quote:
BOSTON — Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. said late Wednesday that partisan extremism is damaging the public’s perception of the role of the Supreme Court, recasting the justices as players in the political process rather than its referees.

Divisive battles over confirmations and mischaracterization of the merits of the court’s decisions worry him, Roberts told a ballroom crowd of about 1,000 people at a celebration of Law Day at New England Law-Boston, a private law school.

...“That suggests to me that the process is being used for something other than ensuring the qualifications of the nominees,” said the 61-year-old chief justice.

“When you have a sharply political, divisive hearing process, it increases the danger that whoever comes out of it will be viewed in those terms,” he said. “If the Democrats and Republicans have been fighting so furiously about whether you’re going to be confirmed, it’s natural for some member of the public to think, well, you must be identified in a particular way as a result of that process.
http://wapo.st/1QoiWFG

It may be relevant that Roberts has been and continues to be attacked from the right since the Obamacare ruling. But the folks who know much more about the SC that I read tend to hold that Roberts is a different creature from Scalia, Thomas and Alito in that, their opinion holds, Roberts cares more about the integrity and reputation of the institution and about his own legacy as Chief Justice.

Still, his court has clearly manifested a shift to the right and to judgements which accord much more with Federalist Society goals than with prior SC precedents that were not of that nature. And since Bush v Gore, any claim that the SC is an apolitical body lacks credibility.

All of which puts Roberts in a rather tricky position right now if he were to speak on what Obama and the Senate ought to do following Scalia's death. If he speaks, will this add to the problem he bemoans? If he doesn't address the ongoing and rampaging politicization, what are we to make of his reluctance now - where that problem has really risen to the surface - when he spoke of it just two weeks ago?

And let's note that retired justice O'Connor has publicly stated that Obama should name Scalia's replacement.
woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 19 Feb, 2016 09:40 am
@blatham,
Sure, have Obama nominate someone. Then let's see if the Senate will approve.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 19 Feb, 2016 10:12 am
@woiyo,
woiyo wrote:

Sure, have Obama nominate someone. Then let's see if the Senate will approve.


Indeed.

Posturing about how he shouldn't isn't stopping him.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 19 Feb, 2016 05:00 pm
Election 2016
Ronald Reagan's Message to Republicans Who Want to Block Obama's Next Supreme Court Nominee
Reagan nominated a Supreme Court justice less than 14 months before he left office.
By Alexandra Rosenmann / AlterNet
February 16, 2016

Senate Republicans are claiming that the next president should get to choose Antonin Scalia's replacement. The GOP candidates nearly all agreed that President Obama should not appoint Scalia's replacement. They should listen to their idol, Ronald Reagan.

Reagan once said, "It would be unfair to the parties with cases before the Supreme Court and unfair to the remaining members of the court to be left without nine full-time justices. Each of us owes a sacred debt to our ancestors and to the citizens of the future."

Less than 14 months before he left office, Reagan nominated Justice Anthony Kennedy to the Supreme Court.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 19 Feb, 2016 08:24 pm
@woiyo,
Quote:
Sure, have Obama nominate someone. Then let's see if the Senate will approve.

Obviously, they won't. So the important questions all revolve around why they won't.
Quote:
While Scalia’s originalism certainly has its disciples among conservatives, with his death, Ginsburg’s vision of a living Constitution becomes more likely to prevail. President Obama (or his successor) has a chance to appoint at least one more liberal to the Supreme Court. That would give the court a liberal majority for the first time since 1971. It would allow the court to resume the progressive push — on issues including school desegregation, reproductive rights, organized labor and voting rights — that stalled almost a half-century ago. It would enable a revival of a dramatically different role for the court: as an institution that drives social change instead of halting it.

Before President Richard Nixon’s four conservative appointments abruptly tilted the court to the right, the country was in the middle of a social revolution, or what we now call the Sixties. Relations of race, gender and, less obviously, class were mutating at warp speed. The federal courts, and the Supreme Court in particular, were at the heart of the transformations...
http://wapo.st/1OkH9Fo
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 19 Feb, 2016 10:30 pm
War is coming. http://nym.ag/1TrtToU
McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 19 Feb, 2016 10:57 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

War is coming.


At least we know which side has the guns.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 19 Feb, 2016 11:02 pm
@blatham,
I'm not sure you know, Blatham, that people who cannot subscribe to the New York Times, including me, a subscriber for many past years, have only ten clicks a month before they are shut off re the paywall.

You sling the NYT links as easy, but they are not.

I would appreciate such clues as you may give for whatever is said there.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 19 Feb, 2016 11:24 pm
@ossobuco,
Just clear your cookies. Boom. Ten more articles.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 19 Feb, 2016 11:33 pm
@ossobuco,
in the post you're responding to, the link is to new york magazine, not the new york times
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 20 Feb, 2016 12:14 am
@ehBeth,
Thank you, irritated with myself.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 20 Feb, 2016 12:17 am
@DrewDad,
Last time I looked for cookies on this piece of ****, I couldn't find them.
I'll try again one of these days. My computer is quite old.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Sat 20 Feb, 2016 01:07 am
@ossobuco,
What browser are you using?

blatham
 
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Reply Sat 20 Feb, 2016 02:51 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
At least we know which side has the guns.

Fortunately for trench-pooping patriots and delusional geriatrics tuned in to Limbaugh and Fox, not that kind of war.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 20 Feb, 2016 02:57 am
@ossobuco,
Sorry, doll. I will have to try and remember that. But in this case, the link goes to New York Magazine, not New York Times, so you can click and read for free.

It's a very good source for a lot of stuff including politics. Hover your cursor over "News & Politics" and any of the writers included there are more than worthwhile. Jon Chait and Ed Kilgore are my particular favorites but Frank Rich is now there as well.

Edit: I see others beat me to it.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 20 Feb, 2016 07:41 am
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