How to recognize at the universe the real Creator ?

So you are saying the 'creator' of diseases cured by the science of man, is the 'superior creator of the universe'. Surely the term inferior or uncaring creator would make more sense !
But maybe you are one who 'can't really grasp that' !

@fresco
sorry , you did not understand a little bit . Without exact reason and logic
and without pre-fixations (religion or world) there is no chance .

No chance of what ?
Do you understand that the words 'creation' and 'logic' and 'exact' were invented by humans and have different meanings in different contexts ?
Do you understand that putting a capital 'C' on 'creator' does not put it beyond its human origins ?
Do you understand that your posting here is a self-reinforcement exercise equivalent to hectoring a disinterested audience in a market place ?

@fresco
what you say is only a little bit at the surface and has not a little importance .
People like you have no chance to grasp only a little bit .
You must change completely and with you almost the whole mankind .
I know that this mankind and world is incredibly bad , but I can only
try everything .

Oh dear you don't want go understand do you ! If it's that bad there's always a way out. But if you take it, do us all a favor and try not to take any of us with you like those recent fanatics.

@fresco
I am incredibly far away from fanatism .
But I have recognized that this mankind must change and in the right direction and that is the orientation at the real creator of the universe
(more from him is not recognizable ) - and he is of course NOT God of
any religion .

Great platitude that ...'Man must change' ! Maybe he wont change and will destroy himself. That could be just as much part of your 'Creators' program as anything else. ! After all, many species have been prone to extinction throughout history. Hey, maybe the Creator is favoring ANTS !

@fresco
I am sure , you underestimate the creator . Who can create a universe must
have unimaginable superior logic (and intelligence) and power and moral .
How can we estimate that a little bit ?
Of course with our reason , logic and moral , because that (and others) is
from the creator , of course !
And so I can say : the creator does not create anything senseless !
And that means : the mankind has a good chance .

And I am sure you overestimate the significance of your ''Creator' concept.
For example what was the 'sense' in creating and then destroying dinosaurs. ?
If your answer is the normal twaddle about man 'not understanding the logic of God' then that defeats anything you might think you understand about 'his intentions' for humans.

But, I realize that have been doing you the dubious favor of allowing you to air your version of Creationism. Since this may be a dis-service to mankind, this is where I will stop.

@fresco
I can only say what with reason and logic is recognizable at the universe .
And we belong to the universe ! And with reason and logic is - because
they are from the creator - it a little possible to think about the future of
the mankind and even about the creator .
Of course we have no idea about his "thinking" and "doing" !

You seem suggesting a pale imitation of Spinoza's 'God' which he equated to 'existence' itself. That 'God' had no attributes as 'a personified entity' and therefore no 'interest' in the products of a continuous process of 'creation'.
So according to Spinoza you are part of existence, therefore part of 'God'. Your creativity is an aspect of 'God's creativity'.

Einstein's 'God' was that of Spinoza but it led him to reject quantum theory because it was counter-intuitive to an ordered universe . Unfortunately for Einstein, quantum theory 'won' on certain critical questions about the nature of the universe, thereby suggesting the problems of adopting an attitude which assumed that the universe was 'planned'.

http://able2know.org/topic/304195-1

@dalehileman
The TRUE God is the real creator of the universe - more from is not recognizable ! But that he is the creator of the universe would be enough
for this mankind ! But we must be able to recognize it at the universe (I could ,
unfortunately I know nobody else) . WITHOUT THAT there is no chance for
the mankind to chance .
LOOK at this mankind and world and you should know : WE MUST CHANGE !

You first !

@fresco
you are simply wrong .
What I can say about the TRUE God is very simple , because we cannot
recognize more !
He has created the universe (everything) .

The big fault of the religions and this world was :
they invented much more - and so there are only false Gods !

@fresco
in the moment I am the only one (I know nobody else) who could recognize
that the real creator of the universe exists . And of course I try to orientate
my life at him .

Very good point indeed.

But why should He, She, It require creation with all its paradox and confusion

Okay Den but how and in what way

Great idea, Den, but again just how

Only, Den; I thought at least you had one for us

You hafta forgive me for teasing, I realize you'e esl and the right words don't always come out in the intended order