How to recognize at the universe the real Creator ?

@manden,

manden wrote:

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This shows , that the universe can only have been created by an unimaginable
superior logic and power .
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IF and only if it were created. Prove that it was, and then you'll have an argument.

@FBM,

That shows , that it only have been created by an unimaginable logic and
power .
You didn't grasp it . But that is normal for this ill mankind .
I couldn't find somebody else who could do it .

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@manden,

manden wrote:

That shows , that it only have been created by an unimaginable logic and
power .
You didn't grasp it . But that is normal for this ill mankind .
I couldn't find somebody else who could do it .

That shows that you don't have any legitimate evidence to support your god hypothesis. That's about all it shows. That, and your unfamiliarity with basic logic, since you keep on producing circular arguments, begging the question. So far, you've got a Bronze Age story that excites you. Makes you feel good. If being excited and feeling good are good enough for you, then knock yourself out. Don't expect careful thinkers to buy it, though.

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@FBM,

You cannot recognize it . That is normal for this ill mankind .
What I can say you : you most work at you . If you have a religion , your
chance is near to zero , for example .

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@manden,

It would be easier to recognize something if you'd actually bring something here to examine. Like, y'know, evidence? If you're spreading the word, then your duty would be to spread the evidence. Where is it? Why are you hiding it?

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@FBM,

I hide nothing .
To recognize that the (real) creator of the universe (more of him is not recognizable - but that he has created the universe (everything) means of
course very much ! ) is for me very easy now , but for this corrupt mankind incredibly difficult . I can only show the way - within 5 years nobody could
grasp it (and I wrote in many forums mostly in Germany of course) .

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@FBM,

There you have it. Everybody but him is 'corrupt' ! Smile

Asylum inmate #1:........"I'm Napolean"
Nurse: ...."How do you know?"
Inmate #1......"God told me"
Inmate #2......"I certainly did not!"

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@fresco,

I hope there are exceptions . Or people who can change .
It is possible - I also could change . I was about 30 years in the evangelic
church and needed 27 years more to find the "simple" truth .

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@manden,

Was there some key idea or event that made you break with the past and find reality for yourself?

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@Leadfoot,

Perhaps - I lost my work after 12 years because psychic mobbing and became
psychic ill . Many years later I decided with 50 to look for the truth about God . After 7 years intensive search in religions and world I came to my
perception only with reason and logic and WITHOUT pre-fixations .
And till then I always prove it (since 5 years) .

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@Leadfoot,

Surprise, surprise.

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@fresco,

Perhaps you need a very hard life , to be able to learn .
But you also need absolutely honesty (especially to yourself) and a iron will
and you must be able to think consequently (simple) logically .

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@manden,

Yes...I think we get the picture....hardship ...religious epiphany.... deliverance.
Its an all too common psychological saga irrespective of your particular claim to a unique version of it.

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@manden,

manden wrote:

I hide nothing .
To recognize that the (real) creator of the universe (more of him is not recognizable - but that he has created the universe (everything) means of
course very much ! ) is for me very easy now , but for this corrupt mankind incredibly difficult . I can only show the way - within 5 years nobody could
grasp it (and I wrote in many forums mostly in Germany of course) .

It would help us corrupt ones if you'd supply some evidence and clear reasoning to support your claims. I can't make heads or tails of what you just wrote.

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@fresco,

fresco wrote:

There you have it. Everybody but him is 'corrupt' !

Asylum inmate #1:........"I'm Napolean"
Nurse: ...."How do you know?"
Inmate #1......"God told me"
Inmate #2......"I certainly did not!"

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/hehe.gif

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@fresco,

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Yes...I think we get the picture....hardship ...religious epiphany.... deliverance.
Its an all too common psychological saga irrespective of your particular claim to a unique version of it.

Wow. Ennui. You're so world wise. It makes me want your life.

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@FBM,

What I told you , very difficult for this corrupt , ill mankind .
You must change - like almost all others . Away from all the fixations of
religion and world . Otherwise you cannot understand .

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@manden,

You don't seem to have read Siddhartha, by the German author Hesse.
What you call 'understanding' about 'fixations' is the norm for meditators.
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2499

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@manden,

manden wrote:

What I told you , very difficult for this corrupt , ill mankind .
You must change - like almost all others . Away from all the fixations of
religion and world . Otherwise you cannot understand .

Well, it would help if you were to provide some evidence to back up your claims. You just keep spouting the same rhetoric over and over and over again. I'm finding it hard to think of something more corrupt and ill than your attempts as reasoning coherently. "You must change. Otherwise, you cannot understand." Translated, that just means "You won't be right until you agree with me." Rolling Eyes

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@FBM,

Or, we could get a free pen, just for replying. That's what Sun Alliance does.

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