Deadly shooting on Oregon college campus

@McGentrix,

Add them all together, and it's still far less than America's. China is not a liberal democracy. As for the rest, clearly their gun laws need tightening up, like ours.

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Yeah, Walmart isn't a super market.

Of course it is. Don't be ridiculous.

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@Baldimo,

Fred Meyer (Kroger) sells firearms.

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

The topic is if the US is "a solitary example compared to other liberal democracies. " Nothing to do with how many many or how often.

So, if the amount of gun deaths, or their frequency is not relevant, what is?

That really is beyond stupid. I'm sorry, I never realised such idiocy actually existed until now.

I am so sorry for your fellow Americans. They must deal with that **** on a daily basis.

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

You can buy guns at Asda?

No, because Asda's in the UK where we ignore idiots like you.

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@Baldimo,

I'm not an expert in all things Walmart, but I do know that the size of the stores and services the offer varies greatly from one local to another. In some areas they are the only game in town. The fact that not every Walmart carries weapons doesn't negate the fact that many do. The closest Sears store sells weapons and ammo.

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@Baldimo,

Baldimo wrote:

Walmart's in my area do not sell guns anyways, they sell ammo but not guns.

Well that's alright then.

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@izzythepush,

The guy who lives over seas is going to tell us how our stores are defined... You are far from an expert on anything dealing with the US.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Oh yeah? Which Kroger stores are you talking about? I checked out their website and it doesn't appear that they sell guns.

https://www.kroger.com/

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@Walter Hinteler,

I'm so old that I remember corner stores, some of which still exist, probably in inner cities. I'm not talking 7/11 but small individual stores at the corners of streets.

I consider my local market, an ordinary one that I like a lot, because of the people and usually for their efforts re products, a supermarket. This is what they were first called.

Walmart certainly is. My store's space for food goods is similar to the walmart store a few blocks away.

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The 7/11 on the corner also sells groceries. I should inform them that they are a super market according to some British twit. Target sells groceries now. Are they now a supermarket?

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@saab,

good link, saab

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@McGentrix,

No, they are less than the old corner stores, and supermarkets were so called for being able to carry more goods than those. Given the time, that was true.

I remember a contretemp I had with the local corner store owner. I was, say, ten. We kids went there primarily to get popsicles in summer. Our parents went to IGA, not that much bigger. One day, I didn't have enough money, and said so. It was why I wasn't buying, among the five of us. The store owner sniped at me that I was a rich kid, it was shown on the church donation bulletin.

Huh? For some of our years there and then later our small family was in big doo doo.

Turned out to be a church donator with a similar name.. that caused him to not like a kid. All in all a nosybody, as an old friend would say.

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@Baldimo,

Oregon colleges are not gun free zones. A recent court ruling allows anyone with a conceal/carry permit to carry a gun on campus.
http://www.carryutah.com/ccw-articles/concealed-carry-on-campus-reafirmed-in-oregon

Here is an interview of someone carrying on campus that day in Oregon.
http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2015/10/02/vet-with-concealed-weapon-explains-why-he-didnt-shoot-in-umpqua

The argument that it only happens in gun free zones is ridiculous since many of the places it happens are not gun free zones.

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@Baldimo,

Baldimo wrote:

The guy who lives over seas is going to tell us how our stores are defined... You are far from an expert on anything dealing with the US.

Spoken by a yokel who knows next to nothing about Europe or any other country in the world.

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@Baldimo,

Baldimo wrote:

Oh yeah? Which Kroger stores are you talking about? I checked out their website and it doesn't appear that they sell guns.

https://www.kroger.com/

He's talking about Krogers in Germany. Can you at least try to read every word in the post before jumping to conclusions.

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@Baldimo,

Why not just go to a list of supermarkets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_supermarket_chains_in_the_United_States

Walmart, Kmart and Target are on the list.

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@parados,

parados wrote:

Why not just go to a list of supermarkets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_supermarket_chains_in_the_United_States

Walmart, Kmart and Target are on the list.

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Larger supermarkets in North America and in Europe typically sell a great number of items among many brands, sizes and varieties, including:

Alcoholic beverages (as state, provincial or local laws allow)
Baby foods and baby-care products such as disposable diapers
Breads and bakery products (many stores may have a bakery on site that offers specialty and dessert items)
Books, newspapers, and magazines, including supermarket tabloids
Bulk dried foods such as legumes, flour, rice, etc. (typically available for self-service)
Canned goods and dried cereals
CDs, audio cassettes, DVDs, and videos (including video rentals)
Cigarettes and other tobacco products (as country, state, provincial or local laws allow)
Confections and candies
Cosmetics
Dairy products and eggs
Delicatessen foods (ready-to-eat)
Diet foods
Electrical products such as light bulbs, extension cords, etc.
Feminine hygiene products
Financial services and products such as mortgages, credit cards, savings accounts, wire transfers, etc. (typically offered in-store by a partnering bank or other financial institution)
Flowers
Frozen foods and crushed ice
Fresh produce, fruits and vegetables
Greeting cards
House-cleaning products
Housewares, dishware and cooking utensils (typically limited)
Laundry products such as detergents and fabric softeners
Lottery tickets (where operational and legal)
Luggage items (typically limited)
Meats, fish and seafoods (some stores may offer live fish and seafood items from aquarium tanks)
Medicines and first aid items (primarily over-the-counter drugs, although many supermarkets also have an on-site pharmacy) (as laws allow)
Nonalcoholic beverages such as soft drinks, juices, and bottled water (some stores may have a juice bar that prepares ready-to-drink freshly squeezed juices, smoothies, etc.)
Personal hygiene and grooming products
Pet foods and products
Seasonal items and decorations
Snack foods
Tea and coffee (some stores may have a commercial-style grinder, typically available for self-service, or a staffed coffee bar that prepares ready-to-drink coffee and tea beverages)
Toys and novelties

I don't see guns listed anywhere.

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

The 7/11 on the corner also sells groceries. I should inform them that they are a super market according to some British twit. Target sells groceries now. Are they now a supermarket?

You actually do know that you are putting words in other people's mouths. It makes you appear to be a sorehead by pretending you don't see a difference between Walmart and a convenience store. Frankly if our friends in Canada, Australia, Germany and Great Britain assume you are the average American, you are doing a great disservice to the rest of us. Not everyone needs to devalue other countries in order to feel good about ourselves.

And just to satisfy my curiosity, how high does the death toll of children have to be in order for you to suspect it might be a problem?

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@McGentrix,

So you are telling us that if it isn't on the list and the business sells it then that store can't be a supermarket?

Any store that sells the majority of those items would be classified as a supermarket even if they don't sell all the items or if they sell more items than are what is on the list.

Of course you completely ignored this part of the page...

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and some stores sell a much wider range of non-food products: DVDs, sporting equipment, board games, and seasonal items (e.g., Christmas wrapping paper in December).

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