Yep, the wife and I made a killing on tax rebates last year.
My Aunt (who lives in Toronto) got AIDS from a blood transfusion during a routine operation. She learned of it many years later when she had blood tests done for a life insurance policy. It turns out (and I'm not an expert so forgive me if I get a few details wrong) the Government and Health System knew of tainted blood but did nothing to test it or remove it from the system, nor did they do anything to inform potential victims.
cavfancier wrote:Yep, the wife and I made a killing on tax rebates last year.
I always forget about it, so every 3 months it's a nice surprise :-D
jpinMilwaukee wrote:My Aunt (who lives in Toronto) got AIDS from a blood transfusion during a routine operation. She learned of it many years later when she had blood tests done for a life insurance policy. It turns out (and I'm not an expert so forgive me if I get a few details wrong) the Government and Health System knew of tainted blood but did nothing to test it or remove it from the system, nor did they do anything to inform potential victims.
I find it hard to believe they knew about it and did nothing. So sorry to hear about your aunt, but this has happened all over the world.
Unfortunately, the Canada incident did bring this problem to the public. However, at the time, little was availible to check for the AIDS virus. Yes, this is not a Canadian problem. It has been discovered worldwide for that time period. Hindsight is 20/20. I do feel horrible for your aunt, but I don't think this is really something you can blame on Canada. Faulty or non-existent medical knowledge at the time, yes.
Thanks for the concern... she is doing fine by the way. I'm not blaming anything on Canada... just relaying what I have heard from them.
I'm glad to hear that she's doing ok.
Health care costs are off the chart in the United States. I have one of the best health care plans you can get, in that my employer pays 100% of the premium. As i am the business manager, i know exactly how much this costs--$4,500 per annum for a single employee with no dependents, who is then obliged to pay a $250.00 outpatient deductible, a $250.00 prescription deductible (after which there is a flat $3.00 co-pay), and the inpatient plan is 80/20. Having worked in hospital business offices many years ago, and having been a union steward, as well as working as a business manager for small business, i know this to be fairly standard plan. The rates are fairly standard, as well--people who cannot participate in a group plan through an employer simply cannot afford health care unless they are making something on the order of $40,000 per annum or more, and even then, they may, as i have been in recent months, be faced with choosing which procedures or treatments i can afford, and which i cannot. My dental plan won't cover the superior ceramic fillings so common these days, and will only pay a reduced rate for silver-amalgam fillings--so i pay the difference. Since i typically am not ill, and don't get many prescriptions in a years time, when i recently had a sinus infection, i left one of the three prescriptions unfilled, and bought the over the counter generic version of the drug, and simply doubled the dose. How many people are well enough informed to read the package labelling, compare it to the prescription and make such a choice? Had i filled all three prescriptions, and had then re-filled them (which i didn't need to do, as the infection was taken care of despite only following a 30-day course of meds, which were to have been taken for 60 days), i'd have met my annual prescription deductible, but then had the prospect of very likely not needing a prescription again this year. So i chose to take the chance, and spend only $140 on prescription meds--which is highway robbery as it is, given the exorbitant prices charged by the pharmaceutical companies who pay a big portion of the cost of purchasing the Congress.
I have no idea how someone who only makes it on a $10- or $12/hour job would afford medical care.
Medical costs are out of sight in the U.S. because 1) we are the most law suit happy people on the planet and 2) there is nobody watching the bills, and 3) the government's artificially low payouts force everybody else's costs higher.
My doctor pays almost $150,000 a year just for his malpractice insurance alone and then the medical people on his staff also need that insurance as do clinics and hospitals. As most of the lawmakers in state houses and in Congress are attorneys, there is little chance they'll make any serious attempt to cap malpractice suits or class action suits.
The doctors/hospitals are forced to over prescribe medication and tests to avoid being sued for any inavertent oversight. When medicare, medicade, Champus payments are capped at low levels, doctors and medical facilities either stop accepting such patients at all or they make up their costs by charging all the other patients more. Few of us ever see the part of our bill that insurance pays. The money just disappears in some black hole somewhere.
What if medical care could be structured like car insurance. You pay for your tires and windshield wipers and oil changes and other affordable maintenance and repairs. Your (or somebody else's) insurance company pays for the big stuff that wouldn't be affordable. And you could choose whatever procedures your doctor recommended and skip those s/he judged to be less important or effective with no fear the doctor would be sued if something got missed because of that.
Or the medical savings accounts make sense. I guarantee that anybody who is paying a medical bill up front is going to question the charge for a surgery room that was never used or a $5.00 aspirin.
There are so many things we can do without dismantling and downgrading what nevertheless is the best health care in the world.
Got a call from a hospital in Detroit today. They're looking for $1400.00 U.S. for a backbrace given to a patient. It would be covered by OHIP here. I found the same one in the Sears online catalogue for less than $100.00 Canajun, and at the Shoppers Home Health Care site for a bit less again.
McG - CocaCola, and milk are quite a bit less here than in any place I've shopped in the U.S in the past 15 or so years. Gas, as has already been pointed out, is more expensive. However, how much more is quite variable. Our gas prices zoom up and down almost daily - and with our dollar being a bit too strong ... Last year, there were times when I could fill up my car's tank for about $25 Canajun on my way to Columbus, and then pay $18 or $19 U.S. on the way back. Almost the same cost.
Foxfyre wrote:Medical costs are out of sight in the U.S. because 1) we are the most law suit happy people on the planet and 2) there is nobody watching the bills, and 3) the government's artificially low payouts force everybody else's costs higher.
My doctor pays almost $150,000 a year just for his malpractice insurance alone and then the medical people on his staff also need that insurance as do clinics and hospitals. As most of the lawmakers in state houses and in Congress are attorneys, there is little chance they'll make any serious attempt to cap malpractice suits or class action suits.
The doctors/hospitals are forced to over prescribe medication and tests to avoid being sued for any inavertent oversight. When medicare, medicade, Champus payments are capped at low levels, doctors and medical facilities either stop accepting such patients at all or they make up their costs by charging all the other patients more. Few of us ever see the part of our bill that insurance pays. The money just disappears in some black hole somewhere.
What if medical care could be structured like car insurance. You pay for your tires and windshield wipers and oil changes and other affordable maintenance and repairs. Your (or somebody else's) insurance company pays for the big stuff that wouldn't be affordable. And you could choose whatever procedures your doctor recommended and skip those s/he judged to be less important or effective with no fear the doctor would be sued if something got missed because of that.
Or the medical savings accounts make sense. I guarantee that anybody who is paying a medical bill up front is going to question the charge for a surgery room that was never used or a $5.00 aspirin.
There are so many things we can do without dismantling and downgrading what nevertheless is the best health care in the world.
Foxfyre,
That is complete hogwash!
Malpractice insurance is about 1% of US healthcare cost. Blaming the high cost of US healthcare on this is a ludicrous smokescreen.
The fact is that the current system that you are trumpeting is a failure. The price is exorbintantly high and the outcomes in terms of public health don't warrant this cost. There is still the matter of 43 million uninsured.
Look Foxy,
First you blame the poor and working class with a ridiculous claim that health care is affordable and that those without insurance are in this predicament by choice.
Then you blame the lawyers (always a popular target) even though, mathematically speaking, they add a very small percentage of cost to anyone.
Your politics are concerned with protecting priveledge. They have no moral or logical foundation.
Okay ebrown. You're making what I said into something quite different from what I said, but your opinion is duly noted.
Here's a side by side comparison of the Bush/Kerry health plans - be sure to go all the way to the bottom to see the projected costs.
http://www.benico.com/Bush-Kerry_health-care-proposals.htm
Does somebody know how to copy and post the side by side comparison?
Actually I'll be surprised that the next Congress does much at all with health care. I think there are much bigger fish to fry. I just don't want them to dismantle what is good about the health care we have now.
I'm guessing that they will start refusing to cover anyone who lives on a diet of fried fish.
It's funny actually. An acquaintance of mine owns a string of franchised McDonalds in another state. We were talking not long ago about how McDonalds has tried to offer 'healthy' menu items - low fat, low calorie, low sugar etc. These attempts have all been financial disasters. It seems that people don't go to McDonalds to eat healthy.
But still the lawyers are revving up individual and class action suits on behalf of people who blame McDonalds for their obesity.
Well, McDonald's should just come clean and say, yes, we know our food is bad for you, but you eat it anyway, and will continue to do so. We just provide a service. What you choose to shove down your cakehole is really not our responsibility. Eat here if you want, or don't. It's up to you, not us. Anyway, the last major class-action suit against McDonald's was thrown out of court, and I think any others will go the same route.
Also, those 'healthy choices' aren't really all that good for you, which might explain their complete failure.
McDonald's would probably do better by jumping on the Atkins bandwagon. Give the punters an extra thick patty, no bun, with a salad, covered with cheese, and some disgusting fatty dressing, like ranch with bacon.
The McLean burger was really quite acceptable - very low fat meat, mustard, fresh veggies. It is just that nobody would buy it.
The yogurt parfait is also quite acceptable except that it is too high sugar, but nobody will buy it without the sugar. (I keep waiting them to offer an artificially sweetened product but that probably won't fly either as it will still be too high carb for the low carb dieters.)
The salads are not all that bad though they are definitely high calorie.
Nobody with a product to sell should have to advertise that their product is crappy when compared to other products. Personally I think McDonalds satisfies every ethical requirement by posting and making easily available the nutritional content of all their products.
A few losses won't stop the class action sleezeballs though. Look how many times they went after big tobacco until after years of trying and hundreds of suits, they finally started winning a few. Unless Congress acts to stop this kind of stupidity, I think they'll take down McDonalds too.