America is a Democracy so maybe you should hold off!?

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But I hope you DO understand the underlying message: what the majority rules, is not always the correct thing to do.

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First there are too many posts to respond each and every one. So, I will try to respond to as many as my time will allow.

So, Rick d' Israil you don't always agree with the majority? It's true that in the past men have looked down at women, whites have done the same to blacks and over time the wrongs have been smoothed over though some are not satisfied entirely.

I agree that people have made mistakes but if you pay close attention to my first post I was wondering why Homosexuals are rocking the boat when (and from most of your replys) they don't receive horrific treatment. Being Gay is for the most part a state of mind no one hast to know if you don't want them to. Our little dilemma seems to be of a moral nature what is right what is wrong and does anyone care?[/quote]

I suppose you've never heard of the fine art of curbing.

why are you so unwilling to compromise in any way so that most Americans can feel good about a realistic solution? Or are you one of the all or nothing camp?

deb do you live on A2K cause I get the feeling you have a lot of time on your hands.

Ok Mrs. Law why the passion and protection don't you read history?

Do you know that it has a tendency to repeat itself?

Take Rome for example: the first empire a strong military. The Seeds of disinagration started (and some people say it was St. Augustine and Christianity) when Homosexuality was allowed and it spun out of control the people didn't take pride in their military and everyone just sat around will the barbarinans sacked Rome. I don't know if it is true but toward the end most of the emperors could have been Gay like Nero. Any way America is headed toward moral, no we are in a trasitional period and sooner or later you will see I am right.

Deb... No God said burn in Hell sinners

When Tom Hroncich married his longtime male partner in Canada this year, the newlywed was delighted to receive well-wishes from the Canadian border guards, the Toronto marriage license clerks and the minister.

But he knew such embraces would not last.

A few weeks after the wedding, the Bay Shore man called Geico Auto Insurance to get a new, joint policy -- with all its spousal benefits -- but an insurance representative told him he was not eligible.

After Hroncich filed a complaint earlier this month, Geico quietly reversed that decision, saying it will offer married gay couples the same privileges that opposite-sex spouses receive. Three other insurers in New York -- Allstate, State Farm and Electric -- also said they will follow suit.

The decisions appear to make New York the first state in the nation that will not marry gay couples but will offer insurance benefits for such unions formed elsewhere, experts said.

Even as gay marriage opponents denounce the move, the issue is expected to have widespread implications for how businesses will respond as gay spouses in New York test their new rights under the law.

"This is about making sure that private companies and governmental agencies don't discriminate," said Alphonso David, an attorney with the Manhattan-based Lambda Legal Defense and Education fund, a gay civil rights advocacy group which pushed the issue for Hroncich. "This has broad-reaching implications."

Hroncich hailed the decision.

"We're hard working, tax-paying citizens," he said. "We're just looking for equal treatment under the law. We're not looking for anything special."

Under most insurance policies, when an individual is covered, his or her spouse is automatically covered as well, industry experts said. Some benefits are only offered to spouses, not to unmarried joint policy holders. And many policies, particularly for car insurance, offer cheaper rates to married couples than to singles, experts said.

"It would definitely be a more favorable rate for a married couple," said Maureen Sullivan, a spokeswoman for Allstate Insurance, one of the companies that now offers same-sex spousal benefits.

For example, Sullivan said, a 28-year-old man living in Massapequa, with a good driving record and a new Honda would spend about $400 a year more on insurance if he were single than if he were married.

"This is what we've been talking about: being treated as equal," said Kim Mills, education director for Human Rights Campaign, a gay advocacy group in Washington, D.C. "There are still many impediments to reaching full equality."

There are more than 1,800 rights and benefits that heterosexual couples get when they marry in New York -- 1,100 of them federal benefits, including social security payments, immigration rights and tax breaks, according to the Manhattan-based Empire State Pride Agenda, a gay advocacy group.

Among young people aged 15-24 in sub-Saharan Africa, far more girls and women are infected than men.

Worldwide, women account for nearly half of all people with HIV.

Of the 7.4 million living with HIV in Asia, 5.1 million are in India. Sharp increases were seen in China, Indonesia and Vietnam, where the spread is driven by intravenous drug use, prostitution and unprotected sex among homosexual males.

In sub-Saharan Africa, the number of infections has stabilized at 25 million, though the 3 million new infections kept pace with AIDS deaths. Women make up 57 percent of those in Africa with HIV, the report said.

In high-income countries, AIDS deaths have slowed, but there are signs of increased heterosexual transmission in western Europe, the report said. In the United States, AIDS is the leading cause of death for African-American women aged 25-34.

The XV International AIDS Conference was held in Bangkok, Thailand last week.

Why do Gays get aids?

if it is normal and good then um maybe they wouldn't be the number one spreaders of the disease?? Just a thought ha haquote]

what's so goddam ha ha about anyone getting AIDS? How old are you ? 15?

Yes, they are doing this. By granting homosexuals marriage, they are forcing Catholics to recognize an affront to their religion.

Yes, they are granting them special rights. They have the right to marry now. They want special rights to marry someone that isn't the opposite sex.

disenter512 wrote:

Why do Gays get aids?

if it is normal and good then um maybe they wouldn't be the number one spreaders of the disease?? Just a thought ha haquote]

what's so goddam ha ha about anyone getting AIDS? How old are you ? 15?

I'll second that.

disenter
If you can laugh about AIDS, then you must think cancer is a riot!

Bear
I think you're giving he/she too much credit. I was thinking more on the lines of this person being no more than 12 ;-)

McGentrix wrote:

Yes, they are doing this. By granting homosexuals marriage, they are forcing Catholics to recognize an affront to their religion.

No, McGentrix they are not. Nobody is forcing the Catholics to think it's their business.

Nobody is "forcing" them.

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Yes, they are granting them special rights. They have the right to marry now. They want special rights to marry someone that isn't the opposite sex.

To take a page from your book, heterosexuals will have the right too. <shrugs>

McGentrix wrote:

Yes, they are doing this. By granting homosexuals marriage, they are forcing Catholics to recognize an affront to their religion.

No, McGentrix they are not. Nobody is forcing the Catholics to think it's their business.

Nobody is "forcing" them.

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Yes, they are granting them special rights. They have the right to marry now. They want special rights to marry someone that isn't the opposite sex.

To take a page from your book, heterosexuals will have the right too. <shrugs>