Learning Italian: I need help!

Oh, Kickycan è a Roma? Da quando?

Grazie mille Raphilion!
Crepi il lupo. (that's how you answer in bocca al lupo, right?)

Ho solo un dubbio, per ché non si contracta (?) 'da una voce"?

Anche canterò Amore Impossibile di Tiromancino.

Guarda qui :kickycan

Yes, it is the right answer :wink:

Non si contrae perchè la particella "da" non lo fa mai. Quando incontri d' vuol sempre dire "di"

Per esempio:

Vado a casa d'Ernesto
(Vado a casa di Ernesto)

Vado da Ernesto
(you never say "vado d'Ernesto")

Do you like Tiromancino?

Grazie, Francis. Peccato averlo saputo così tardi: si poteva organizzare un incontro...

Mi dispiace, Raphillon; ho avuto piante di menzionare la possibilita' prima, ma ho dimenticato mentre ho (postato).

Kickycan took his parents on a trip to Venice, Florence, Rome, and Amalfi. He left on 27 May and will return pretty soon.

Pazienza, sarà per la prossima volta

I should have been more careful, but I'm sure Kickycan will enjoy his trip anyway. :wink:

Well, as we say...
Inutile piangere sul latte versato.

And if he will remember to throw a coin in fontana di Trevi there will be a next time, after all... :wink:

"La leggenda dice che se un turista lancia una moneta nella fontana di Trevi voltato di spalle ritornera' di sicuro a visitare la citta' eterna"

Mi piace a vistare la fontana di Trevi (nella) mattina prima di le (delle?) turiste apparirono en masse.

I know en masse is wrong...

Le turiste sono simile a un gruppo dei elefanti infantili...

Mi piace vistare la fontana di Trevi la mattina, prima che i turisti appaiano in massa

(I hope you don't mind the correction )

I understand. Many places in Rome are so full that you can't really enjoy them... I really like to walk through the center of the city when there are just few people, during winter or, better, by night. To park the car nearby Torre Argentina and then walk to trastevere through Corso Vittorio Emanuele or to visit the many beautyful places that are not full with tourist, like San Giovanni in Laterano, San Paolo fuori le mura, Santa Prassede, the ruins of Ostia antica and so on... There are so many ancient and beautyful churches you won't believe it! I think there are more then 50 older than a millennium. I often go to Santa maria in cosmedin for example. Many tourists don't even know the name of this little masterpiece. There is always an everlasting line of people waiting to take a photo of the "bocca della verità" nobody enters the church itself.... well actually it is 1200 years old. there's such an atmosphere inside the floor is still original as well as the few remains of the frescoes inside....

Well, I better stop here. I could just go on forever... I really love Rome, I've been here for 35 years and I'm still not tired of it

Penso che ho bisogno di trenta cinque anni a imparare molti angoli della citta'.

I've been in Rome in early March and liked it then a great deal.

Next time you come tell me: I will be glad to show you some places where you will find few tourists, but many beautyful things :wink:

Uhm... let me search some photoes....

San paolo fuori le mura. This church is really majestic... but it is near to no other touristic place so it is also calm and peaceful and it is huge!


San giovanni in laterano. This is really ancient, was build under Costantinus, 4th century AC


Santa maria in cosmedin. I really like this small and beautyful church


Santa Prassede


And if any of you likes Italian food.... well I do know one place or two :wink:

Raphillon, I will definitely let you know. I am hoping to get there next year.

I have seen San Paolo fuori le mura, isn't that where the Michelangelo Moses is? Have seen San Giovanni in laterano - that's where my then-husband and I were approached by an elderly tourist gentleman seeking help because his wife's purse was taken, and we gave him 10,000 lire, and then, and then, too late, we figured out it was a scam. It was also right near S.G. in laterano that we fell for the barista's desire for an american dollar to put on the wall. (This is hard for me to fathom all this time later).

I have not, sad to say, been inside Sta. Maria in cosmedin. On the other hand, I haven't stood in that line either.

Have not been in Santa Prasside (thinking - I might know where it is though).

There's a small old church right off of via Giulia, starts with an E... that has always been closed when I've walked by..

I mix up a lot of church interiors in my memory, but some are quite distinct, such as Sant'Ivo, San Carlo Borromeo, Sant'Andrea del Quirinale, Sta Maria de Sopra Minerva, Santa Maria del Populo, San Clemente...
that sounds as if I've been to a lot, and I have been to more than that (San Agostino, San Luigi Francese, Sta Maria in Trastevere...) but I know it is just a drop in the bucket...
and I would love to see some of those again. (I am not religious, I just like the spaces now.)

Food - oh, oh, oh!!!!

Tell us about some good restaurants (and we won't tell any other travelers...)

On the churches, I remember being inside S.G. in laterano and not just the tourist scams.. that was designed by Borromini, wasn't it? his work is very strong, to me.

Ah, I see it was done primarily by Fontana.

Here's an interior view - http://www.artandarchitecture.org.uk/images/conway/31e626d8.html

Sorry for the delay... I'm back online, now

Michelangelo's Moses is in San pietro in vincoli, actually, very close to the coliseum. Moses is impressive, isn't it?

San Clemente is really unique. It was originally build in 4th century and then destroued and rebuild twice, so it is actually a complex of 3 churches one up another, really fascinating.... on the other hand about all the churches you mention are unique one way or another

San Giovanni is quite particular, also. It was build in 4th century by order of Constantinus, but since it was the main church of Rome until San pietro (16th century) almost any Pope did something to improve it. Inside you will find masterpieces for a 1300 years long period....

About restaurant... ok.

There is a small one very close to the "parco dell'appia antica" (Which is where the tomb of Cecilia metella is) The restaurant's name is "la caraffa" The address is "via della caffarella" I'm sorry I don't remember the number. It is a small one, but they cook an Excelent fish and it is also reasonably cheap, 30-35 dollars to fill your stomach near at blasting status...

If you want to eat a very good pizza I will suggest the restaurant "Da Ciro", via della mercede, 43. It is close to fontana di trevi, but it is in a small street. It is the best pizza I've eaten in Rome, so far. If you go there I suggest you to taste the "mozzarella di bufala campana". They don't cook it. they bring it just as it is and belive me: it's really worth while.

If you want traditional Roman food, like Abbacchio, Cacio e pepe, penne all'arrabbiata and so on... go to trastevere. There are many good restaurant, there. One I've been recently is in piazza trilussa. I'm sorry I don't remember it's name, but you can't miss it: it is the only one in the square...

E, naturalmente... Buon appetito :wink:

Raphillon, I am just about to get offline, just caught your post.

Ah, I hadn't recognized the facade of San Paulo fuori le mura... it reminds me slightly - because of the facade - of the church in Trastevere with the wise and foolish virgins, Sta Maria.

Pizza, I have loved pizza in Rome. (Perhaps we can meet for pizza?) I liked the pizza vesuviano at pizzeria archetto, or a name like that, also near Trevi fountain, but I went back there another time and didn't like the pizza as well.
Then I've liked the pizza with mozzarella, gorgonzola, and walnuts at caffe foccaccia, right in front of Sta M. della Pace (which was closed at the time...). Ok, da Ciro, I'm memorizing.

Haven't had abbacchio in Rome...