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Poll: over 40% of Canadian teens think America is "evil"

 
 
Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:15 am
Yes, you haven't paid back in any kind of retribution or gratefullness compared to how much we've paid back the Afro-Americans and the American indians.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:15 am
McGentrix wrote:
It is true, Nimh. You just need to learn to come to terms with it. Or, does the hatred in your heart for America burn so brightly as to blind you to this fact?

LOL! What "fact"? You've been offered patient explanations of the respective roles of Americans, Soviets and others like the Brits and Canadians - been reminded of the massive sacrifice of the Russians, the impossibility of the Americans to have made it on their own - and you respond with a mere repetition of a statement of belief: "it is true that we saved Europe". And you call me blind to the facts?

Jesus, what kind of education do you get there? Do you really learn in school that "America saved Europe"? Period?

McGentrix wrote:
Someday, the true greatness of America will shine itself upon you

I mean ... somebody please just send this nation to a shrink, fer chrissakes! Laughing
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:17 am
McGentrix is waving that cheap flag he bought at WalMart.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:17 am
Karzak wrote:
cavfancier wrote:
my tone was directed to crusader Karzak, mostly in response to his ridiculous claim that America has the moral responsibilty and right to police the world, even when they are not wanted.


Like the ridiculous claim that police should arrest a rapist, even if he doesn't want to be arrested?

Who cares what most of the other countries think anyway, they lack the courage to do more than whine about it from the sidelines, they lack the moral imperative to act.


Yep, I couldn't have put it better myself. That rapist example really hit home as something relevent.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:24 am
Limp metaphors have a lot of resemblance to tiny limp dicks.
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Karzak
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:26 am
cavfancier wrote:
Karzak wrote:
cavfancier wrote:
my tone was directed to crusader Karzak, mostly in response to his ridiculous claim that America has the moral responsibilty and right to police the world, even when they are not wanted.


Like the ridiculous claim that police should arrest a rapist, even if he doesn't want to be arrested?

Who cares what most of the other countries think anyway, they lack the courage to do more than whine about it from the sidelines, they lack the moral imperative to act.


Yep, I couldn't have put it better myself. That rapist example really hit home as something relevent.


As revelent as what canadians want in regards to US-Iraqi relations.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:27 am
Something else which is amusing, Habibi, is that many Canadians continue to believe that the United States would like to invade and take over. Hard to understand for Americans, i know, but consider the history. We opened the War of 1812 by assembling a large force at Detroit, and another at Lewiston in New York. The force at Detroit surrendered to an inferior force lead by Major General Sir Isaac Brock. That ended that threat of invasion. Brock hurried east, in time to die at Queenston when the force from Lewiston crossed the Niagara River, and began three long, bloody years of campaigning in the Niagara peninsula. We burned York (Toronto) three times. There was constant naval warfare on Lakes Ontario and Erie. In 1814, at Lundy Lane, the Americans under General Brown, and lead by Winfield Scott, fought the Canadians and British until well after nightfall--until about midnight, when Scott was wounded and carried off the field, and the American commanders got cold feet, and abandoned all their gains. Repeated attempts by the British and Canadians to re-take Fort Erie failed. One of the great folk heroes of Canadian history was made during that war--Laura Secord, who reputedly warned the British of Scott's coming attack intended to occupy York. According to the story, her report allowed the British to assemble and turn back the American invasion at Beaverdams in 1813 (known to Americans as Rocky Ford).

In 1866, Irish rebels from an American organization known as the Fenian Brotherhood, invaded Canada. Most of their efforts were comic opera, and failed, but Colonel O'Neil, with about 600 civil war veterans of Irish descent, met the Canadian militia at Ridgeway, not far from Scott's Lundy Lane battlefield, and gave them a big bloody nose.

The irony (check that word out in the dictionary, McG, it usually seems to fly right by you), is that Canadians for two centuries, far from feeling protected by the United States, have felt threatened.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:27 am
Ha, cav -- you even got him to repeat the misspelled relevant.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:29 am
It's Bush's "leave some children behind" mandate.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:33 am
Lightwizard wrote:
Ha, cav -- you even got him to repeat the misspelled relevant.


We Canadians are subtle that way. Laughing
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:42 am
Just a fun gotcha!, Karzak. Please excuse the inclusion of a small problem that is only the root of a larger one. We do have a spell check if you're interested.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:45 am
Guees he knows how to use the delete response. Maybe better not to call attention.
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Karzak
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:49 am
Lightwizard wrote:
We do have a spell check if you're interested.


No thanks, if I spell checked you wouldn't have anything left. Razz
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Karzak
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:50 am
Lightwizard wrote:
Guees


?
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:51 am
Okay, you do know how to take a joke. So noted.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:51 am
One thing I do admire about Americans is their ability to come together as a team. Now everyone knows there is no "I" in "team", but there is a "me" some "meat", and of course the USA's national pastime "eat". There is also "tame" and "mate". This is telling, as it is the cornerstone of a long-standing team America tradition: "Me eat meat. Now tame enemy with bomb, mate with local ladies, leave babies behind."
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:53 am
Interesting, Set.

McGentrix wrote:
It is true, Nimh. You just need to learn to come to terms with it. Or, does the hatred in your heart for America burn so brightly as to blind you to this fact?

A brightly burning hatred in my heart for America? LOL

What laughable nonsense.

But I forget: if we don't succumb to your delusions of grandeur, we must hate you. Just appreciating the good stuff and criticizing the bad stuff isnt enough - we must see that America really is that shining city on the hill, and pay deference.

If we don't "see it", that cant be because of rational criticisms or honest-to-god, disagreements running deep - no, it must be some irrational "anti-Americanism". How else could someone not "see it"?

Damn ... <shakes head>. Sometimes I really mean that quip about a nation ready for a shrink ... Perhaps its because of America's relative unafflictedness in the world wars - though many soldiers died, the war never really "came home", it remained a mission far abroad; Americans didnt get to learn the harsh, sobering lessons we internalised about the dangers and folly of nationalist self-deception, jingoist folly, claims of superiority. The deconstruction of nationalist mythologies seems to have remained more of an academic exercize ...
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:53 am
And he caught the on purpose "Guees." Wow! I am impressed.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 10:54 am
Excuse McGentrix' florid text, nihm, 'cause he can't help it.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jul, 2004 11:02 am
cavfancier wrote:
One thing I do admire about Americans is their ability to come together as a team. Now everyone knows there is no "I" in "team", but there is a "me" some "meat", and of course the USA's national pastime "eat". There is also "tame" and "mate". This is telling, as it is the cornerstone of a long-standing team America tradition: "Me eat meat. Now tame enemy with bomb, mate with local ladies, leave babies behind."
All right Cav, that's about enough. After that post I expect full pardon for razzing Canada in the past and your permission to do so in the future. Laughing What kind of double standard is this?
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