Foxfyre wrote:nimh, it is very difficult for me to believe that the German foreign minister believed Saddam did not have WMD
LOL
No offence, but how difficult is this, Foxfyre?
I already wrote: "Its not that they necessarly thought Iraq
didn't have WMD".
Its that they were not convinced that we knew Iraq
did still have WMD.
Thats what Fischer's quote was about: "I am not convinced". You can easily google it up if you want <shrugs>.
Its about saying, "we dont know". Dont know enough, dont know for sure.
That's what's between claiming Saddam had 'em - and claiming he didn't have 'em.
(But I've been confronted so often here with the insistence that if I say its not white, I must mean its black (or vice versa), that I'm starting to think it must be some cultural thing.)
As for Germany having "sold Saddam much of the stuff", thats neither here nor there. We know he
used to have WMD - that part's not contested. At issue was whether he
still had them. We know that most of what he had was destroyed during the inspection process in the 90s. Again, it was the US admin's assertion that we knew he
still possessed some - possessed enough to pose an acute danger to global security, in fact. Thats the part most of the other UN countries were not buying. Both the assertion that we
knew he still had them (that inspections were not necessary to corroborate it); and that we had evidence that he might well soon use them to (help others) attack America or other third countries.
One word: inspections. France, Germany etc wanted the inspections to go on. They wouldn't need them to go on if they believed Saddam DIDNT have WMD; they wouldnt need them to go on if they were for sure Saddam DID still have WMD. The bottom line was,
we didnt know for sure. And if we didnt know for sure,
we shouldnt go to war about it. The inspections were ongoing. The inspectors were doing their work. They were asking for more time.
Bush, Powell and Rumsfeld swore that there was no reason to worry: their intel told them that we knew for sure - hell, we even knew exactly under which tree and everything. Fischer c.s. indicated that the suggested proof they put forward was unconvincing. The American admin retorted that it had more evidence, but couldn't share it because of security considerations - we just had to believe them that they
knew.
Turned out they were wrong. And we had good reason not to be convinced.