THE US, THE UN AND THE IRAQIS THEMSELVES, V. 7.0

I think that, in Germany in 1939 if a plebiscite had been taken, a large majority of the population would have been supportive of their leader's action.
The psychology is simple, and it has been repeated many times through history.

Patrick Henry: "It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry peace, peace!—but there is no peace. The war is actually begun. The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms. Our brethen are already in the field. Why stay we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me: give me liberty, or give me death!"

13,131,313
You can count on it!

I agree!

Thanks Ican! I needed a reminder that the Tyrant is behind bars and that wonderful changes are happening because good men chose to stop doing nothing!


I feel so much better! I think I'll pump up the volume, pump up the volume, DANCE!

OCCOM BILL wrote:

13,131,313
You can count on it!

I agree!

Thanks Ican! I needed a reminder that the Tyrant is behind bars and that wonderful changes are happening because good men chose to stop doing nothing!


I feel so much better! I think I'll pump up the volume, pump up the volume, DANCE!

OK...by that rational there should be a long term plan of stopping "doing nothing". How many wars or bullying threats do you envisage the current "crusade" carrying out?

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Whats with the photo? What can I say, like Reagan, the man can obviously act!!!

OK...by that rational there should be a long term plan of stopping "doing nothing". How many wars or bullying threats do you envisage the current "crusade" carrying out?

Whats with the photo? What can I say, like Reagan, the man can obviously act!!!

Keep the fire burning till the last Tyrant retires comfortably in France it's up to me, Gav.

McTag wrote:

I think that, in Germany in 1939 if a plebiscite had been taken, a large majority of the population would have been supportive of their leader's action.
The psychology is simple, and it has been repeated many times through history.

Just as only a year earlier the policy of Neville Chamberlain was greeted with great popular acclaim in Britain following his betrayal of the Czechs at Munich. Shall I conclude from this that the psychological attraction of willful blindness to clear and present danger also has its fatal attractions for the public? If so where does this leave your point?

TO BRING ONE MORE IRAQI VOICE OF THE SILENT MAJORITY TO THE ATTENTION OF THE WORLD

Saturday, January 22, 2005

Hi,

To start with, I wish to congratulate all Muslim people on the occasion of Eid Al-Adha.

As I said right at the beginning (of my blogging), the battle with the stubborn peasants opposing change in our country was going to depend on the balance of intimidation as I called it then. The basic error was in allowing this balance to tip in favor of the enemy through inadequate security measures coupled with underestimation of his ability to subvert and cripple civil life. The enemy should be well known by now as being an alliance of former regime elements with the Bin-Ladenists, if we may coin this new term; not to mention the motley assortment of petty criminals and mercenaries. The basic ideas and strategies of this enemy are broadly laid out in that famous Zarqawi document. Unfortunately, his plan has been implemented more or less successfully so far. I have always insisted on the paramount importance of that document, which I believe to be authentic. Careful reading of it could shed much light on what has been going up to the present time. He clearly states that one of the most important elements of his plan is to gain control of the Sunni areas and incite the people therein against the rest and majority of the population namely the Shiaa, the Kurds, Christians etc., thereby creating the conditions that would lead to civil war of the worst kind: religious and sectarian conflict. Thus and in pursuit of this vile scheme, the most heinous barbaric crimes have been committed, especially against the Iraqi people, and I do not think we need to enumerate these.

There is also very little doubt that regional powers are playing an important role in financing and aiding the terrorist campaign in Iraq, as a means of thwarting U.S. and Allied strategies. All what the U.S. is expounding is anathema to these neighboring regimes (and others more far away): Democracy, freedom, standing up for the oppressed, the promotion of more enlightened and open political systems. Moreover; the hostility against these ideas are perfectly understandable from their point of view, since they spell death and doom to social systems based on tyranny, despotism , blind bias, arrogance and prejudice.

Regarding the elections, it is almost evident what is going to happen. Voting will take place mostly in those places that are more or less out of reach of the intimidators, namely, the South and Kurdish North. Unfortunately, much of Baghdad is on the wrong side of line. In fact, this intimidation is working against the interests of secular and moderate political forces, and in favor of the more religiously inclined and intransigent parties, since those likely to favor the former are largely to be found in Baghdad and the major cities. And; if the latter parties gain power, they are not likely to treat the "insurgents" very kindly; so, probably, the intimidators are stupidly digging their own graves.

Moreover, no one should expect that the security situation and strife would somehow improve after the elections; it is more likely to intensify. This is an unfinished war; the Saddamists and their allies have fully regrouped and rearmed and are being very well financed and supported. The brave American people have given President Bush the mandate to finish this war despite the painful sacrifices and material cost. The Iraqi people are up in arms through the political groupings, new army, N.G. and various security forces and are suffering the greater part of the sacrifice. Despite all the snags and faltering, these forces are getting bigger and stronger and should be supported and nurtured until they can bear the full responsibility; this is the only viable "exit strategy" available. In fact, we do not like this phrase, for what is required is a "victory strategy". This war must be fought to the bitter end, and there is only one outcome acceptable both to us and to you: Total and Complete Victory. Anything else is completely unthinkable.
Salaam

http://messopotamian.blogspot.com/

gav wrote:

OK...by that rational there should be a long term plan of stopping "doing nothing". How many wars or bullying threats do you envisage the current "crusade" carrying out?

Keep the fire burning till the last Tyrant retires comfortably in France it's up to me, Gav. Iraq has 5,000,000 little girls 14 and under... and everyone of them is worth fighting for. Iran has 10,000,000 little girls 14 and under... and everyone of them is worth fighting for. Etc. etc. etc. ad nauseam (I'm quite serious about that nauseam, too ).

gav wrote:

Whats with the photo? What can I say, like Reagan, the man can obviously act!!!

It was very nice of Gel to provide that story... and don't kid yourself... George Bush can't act. No way he'd look so stupid, so often if he could. For his next bubble bursting stunt they should hand him a baby. Imagine the shock around here when he doesn't eat it.

Gel, I thank you again for posting the Bush story, but your complaint is absurd. You are probably near the top for posting nonsense on this thread. Read what you like, ignore what you don't, and stop whining.

This "Iraqi voice" reads suspiciously western to me. The language is 100% western journalese.

OCCOM BILL wrote:

Keep the fire burning till the last Tyrant retires comfortably in France it's up to me, Gav.

Yes, you know what's going on, Bill.