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THE US, THE UN AND THE IRAQIS THEMSELVES, V. 7.0

 
 
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 01:27 pm
Substantiation that the Bush administration is derelict in this regard Cyclop? Espeically that it is any more derelict than any previous administration?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 01:37 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Heh. At what point did I say that the last admin was better, or that Berger had anything to do with your statement at all?


To the best of my recollection you never posted here any such thing. But I did infer from your last post here that Bush is a loser of documents, etc.

Cycloptichorn wrote:
In light of your statements about F/451 I thought I might mention that in order to provide a little focus for your alarm.


You failed! The proper focus for my alarm is best centered on the ultimate effects of a large number of people allowing themselves to be sucked in by false propaganda.

My father use to say: "First comes lying; then comes stealing; then comes murder." I think he was right.

I am merely stating an implication: First comes lying; then comes book burning (i.e., stealing books); then comes murder.
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the reincarnation of suzy
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 02:35 pm
Just because you people don't understand what's going on does not mean it never happened.
Loser of documents? military records? Arrest records? The scientific reports on global warming that were made to go away. Info that used to be on websites and now is not? Oh, yeah, they also lose WMDs, it seems.
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 02:45 pm
The title of this thread is US, UN and Iraq.

It is a pity that American domestic politics intrude so often. Some (Dems as well as Repubs) even saw the Iraqi conflict purely, or chiefly, in the context of partisan domestic politics.

I think it is a shame. And it will come as a surprise to many Americans, that to the outsider, ie. as far as outside interests are concerned, there is very little difference discernable between the two main political parties. Well, at least until the neocon thinktank decided that war was the answer to the world's ills. That is a difference.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 03:05 pm
the reincarnation of suzy wrote:
Just because you people don't understand what's going on does not mean it never happened.


Just because you people think you understand what's going on does not mean it actually happened.

With regard to military records, some of Kerry's are not lost. They are merely prohibited by Kerry from being released.

With regard to arrest records, where are Kerry's? Bush's we knew about way back in 2000.

With regard to alleged scientific reports on global warming, they are still accessible. The problem there is that the primary cause of global warming and cooling has been ignored by the elite media until recently. The elite media has finally started to face the real major cause: fluctuations in the amount of heat radiated by the sun. These fluctuations have been known for sometime to fluctuate on 11 year, approximately 1000 year, and approximately 20,000 year cycles. Just a tad of observation by the hate-Bush-fools would make it readily apparent to them that major global warming started over 10,000 years ago when the last ice age ended.

It's apparent that the hate-Bush-fools cannot infer the obvious. Fact: Saddam signed the 1991 Armistice ending the Gulf War. Fact: In signing that document, Saddam agreed to disassemble and/or destroy his so-called WMD. Fact: In signing that document, Saddam agreed to provide evidence of disassembling and/or destroying his so-called WMD. Fact: Saddam did not provide that evidence.

Question: Why?

Perhaps he disassembled and/or destroyed his so-called WMD, but didn't want anyone to know.

Perhaps he hid and did not disassemble and/or destroy his so-called WMD, and didn't want anyone to know.

Perhaps he never had so-called WMD, and didn't want anyone to know.

Perhaps he hid his so-called WMD and forgot where he put them.

Perhaps he used all his so-called WMD up on his own people and didn't want anyone to know.

Which alternative would you bet your welfare on?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 03:10 pm
It looks like that from here too, McTag. Interestingly, the one recognizable difference you point out, is the one that has made me decide to vote for a candidate from the 2 party system for the first time in forever. Interesting indeed. :wink:
Btw, though I love hurling accusations of hyper-partisanship around, there was none in my last post to you and, in fact, partisanship played no roll. You'll notice I had deliberately chosen a President from each party for my example.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 03:30 pm
McTag wrote:
The title of this thread is US, UN and Iraq.
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it will come as a surprise to many Americans, that to the outsider, ie. as far as outside interests are concerned, there is very little difference discernable between the two main political parties.


No surprise to me! I have observed that from the point of view of "outside interests" America is a threat as long as it does what inside interests think it ought to do rather than what "outside interests" think it ought to do. Half of us actually have the temerity to think that when some group or nation declares war on us, we ought to get them before they get us. The other half actually have the naivety to think we can negotiate, without resorting to war, the end of threats to our security, if we would become more understanding and sympathetic of those less fortunate than ourselves.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 03:35 pm
Would you mind, ican, to name a few nations that declared within ... let's say the last ... hmh, 60 years, war on the USA?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 03:53 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Would you mind, ican, to name a few nations that declared within ... let's say the last ... hmh, 60 years, war on the USA?


Last 60 years?
Since 1944?
Nations?Japan declared war on US in 1941 after Pearl Harbor Attack. Germany declared war on US in 1941 after US declared war on Japan following Japan's declaration of war on US. Both Japan and Germany were at war with US until 1945.
Groups? None.

Last 50 years?
Since 1954?
Nations? None declared war against the US. A couple during that period, North Korea and North Vietnam were at war (North Korea) or went to war (North Vietnam) against those with whom we had mutual defense treaties.
Groups? One declared war against us three times; Al Qaeda in '96, '98 and '04.

Al Qaeda was the first in the last approximately 190 year period to bring their war directly to us within the United States. It scared and is scaring the hell out of us. With fear comes irrationality (or perhaps more irrationality). It's not a good idea for anyone to scare the hell out of us.
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the reincarnation of suzy
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 08:11 pm
hah! Right. Rolling Eyes
2001: Powell & Rice Declare Iraq Has No WMD and Is Not a Threat
In February 2003, Powell said: "We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more." But two years earlier, Powell said just the opposite. The occasion was a press conference on 24 February 2001 during Powell's visit to Cairo, Egypt. http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/powell-no-wmd.htm

I have found that many people who use the word "elite" are generally horses asses!

Immediately after 9/11, information-scrubbing became the order of the day at a number of government agencies.
William Matthews reported in the November 2002 issue of Federal Computer Week that the Department of Health and Human Services had removed "valuable scientific information" regarding condoms, HIV and abortion "from some of their Web sites."
The Web site at the National Cancer Institute which "used to say... that the best studies showed 'no association between abortion and breast cancer,' now says the evidence is inconclusive." At the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention a fact sheet on its Web site "used to say studies showed that education about condom use did not lead to earlier
or increased sexual activity. That statement, which contradicts the view of "abstinence only" advocates, is omitted from a revised version of the page.

Ever since his 1994 run for governor, Bush has maintained that the SEC had misplaced the form reporting his stock sales, resulting in Bush filing the information eight months after the fact. Bush, a director at Harken, made $800,000 on the deal and insinuations of insider trading were made. The SEC took no action against Bush because of the late filing.

• The Federal Aviation Administration removed records from the Internet on enforcement actions taken against airlines, pilots and mechanics.

• The Environmental Protection Agency eliminated listings of chemical accidents from its Web site, making it harder for people to find out about hazards in their communities.

This is the most secretive administration since Nixon's.

US Illegally Removes 8000 Pages from Iraq UN Report

Internal Revenue Service ends public access to its Reading Room except by appointment and with an escort.

Bush signs Executive Order 13233 restricting public access to the papers of the former Presidents, just as Reagan papers were to be released.

Justice Dept. announces that it will no longer release a tally of the number of detainees held on American soil. Names and status of these detainees will also not be disclosed.

Risk Management Plans, which provide information about the dangers of chemical accidents and how to prevent them, have been removed from the EPA web site. EPA has removed from its web site Risk Management Plans (RMP) that are collected under the Section 112(r) of the Clear Air Act. These plans provide three elements about chemicals being used in
plants: a hazard assessment, a prevention program, and an emergency response plan.

THE US Congress probe into the September 11 attacks may have prompted more questions than it answered when 28 pages on a possible role by Saudi Arabia were blacked out by the Bush administration.

The Federal Aviation Administration has removed data from its web site on enforcement actions. The FAA's web site allows users to download a number of different databases. This includes records of accidents and incidents, pilot and maintenance training schools, and until recently, data on enforcement actions, the EIS database.

On 23 Sept 2003, the Defense Department Website called "Defend America" posted a notice for people to join local draft boards. "If a military draft becomes necessary," the notice explained, "approximately 2,000 Local and Appeal Boards throughout America would decide which young men, who submit a claim, receive deferments, postponements or
exemptions from military service, based on Federal guidelines."
In early November, that notice started to receive media attention, with articles from the Associated Press, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer , the Oregonian, the Toronto Star, the BBC, and London Guardian (unsurprisingly, none of the major papers or networks in the US
covered it
). In a familiar turn of events, the notice suddenly disappeared from the Website.
http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/sss092203.html

Microsoft Deletes 2 Characters from Office Font:Supposedly "critical" update removes Star of David and swastika

Adverse Events Log Pulled From FDA Website
Until 29 Aug 2003, the FDA's Website contained a list of these adverse effects. The FDA pulled it, saying that "information previously available on dietary supplement adverse event reports on this website was very limited and was provided in a manner that made it difficult for users to appropriately interpret the adverse events."
Perhaps. Or maybe manufacturers weren't wild about having their products listed as the possible cause of rashes, vomiting, rectal bleeding, death, and other unpleasantries.
http://www.thememoryhole.org/feds/fda-nutritionals.htm

White House Alters Webpages About Iraq Combat Instead of combat being over, headline now retroactively says that only "major combat" is over.

Deleted Material from the Website for Guantanamo Bay
http://www.thememoryhole.org/gitmo/gitmo-site.htm

The Bush campaign points to a torn piece of paper in his Guard records, a statement of points Bush apparently earned in 1972-73, although most of the dates and Bush's name except for the "W" have been torn off. How convenient!
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the reincarnation of suzy
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 08:27 pm
After weeks of saying that the US would impose carbon dioxide limitations that would conform to the global warming treaty known as the Kyoto Protocol, Environmental Protection Agency director Christy Todd Whitman dropped a bombshell on the world on March 27 by announcing the US is abandoning the treaty. Her announcement came after Bush had told Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) in a letter on March 13 he would not seek carbon dioxide limits as he had promised in his campaign.
http://www.scienceinpolicy.org/
White House officials play down its own scientists' evidence of global warming
http://www.skyhighway.com/~rjs/politics_and_science_report.pdf
In a statement issued February 18, more than 60 highly respected American scientists, including 20 Nobel Prize winners, blasted the Bush administration for suppressing and manipulating scientific evidence in order to promote a predetermined agenda. Entitled "Restoring Scientific Integrity in Policymaking," the statement charges: "When scientific knowledge has been found to be in conflict with its political goals, the administration has often manipulated the process through which science enters into its decisions."
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/feb2004/scie-f26.shtml
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 08:31 pm
McTag wrote:
It is a pity that American domestic politics intrude so often. Some (Dems as well as Repubs) even saw the Iraqi conflict purely, or chiefly, in the context of partisan domestic politics.


As the evidence of earlier versions of this thread, including in the period before the war, will show, this has sadly been the case for several years now. To have opposed the war was declared to be unpatriotic, and the reason for opposition was alleged to be partisan politics. That or course conveniently ignores any Republicans opposed, and any conservatives opposed, while side-stepping the issues legitimately raised by opponents of the war.

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I think it is a shame. And it will come as a surprise to many Americans, that to the outsider, ie. as far as outside interests are concerned, there is very little difference discernable between the two main political parties.


Man, ain't that the truth. The partisan always decide that if you don't agree with them, you must be a part of the opposition. Ideas outside the ken of partican orthodoxy might as well not exist.

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Well, at least until the neocon thinktank decided that war was the answer to the world's ills. That is a difference.


It is a difference, my friend, with which we all are obliged to live, including those who were opposed, those who voted for someone else, and those who don't even live here. So many sad, shameful consequence to get through.
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2004 09:06 am
ican711nm wrote:
Fahrenheit 9/11 is an admittedly entertaining yet flagrant lying propaganda work (i.e., the author knows his movie's falsities are falsities).


Precisely the opposite is true. Michael Moore knew that if he put any material in the film which could not be substantiated, and facts which did not stack up, government lawyers would be all over him like a rash.

To date, no lawsuit. What could the reason for that be, I wonder? Why do the neocons want to avoid publicity, and the law courts?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2004 05:49 pm
the reincarnation of suzy wrote:
I have found that many people who use the word "elite" are generally horses asses!


You just used that word!
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2004 06:02 pm
McTag wrote:
Michael Moore knew that if he put any material in the film which could not be substantiated, and facts which did not stack up, government lawyers would be all over him like a rash.

To date, no lawsuit. What could the reason for that be, I wonder? Why do the neocons want to avoid publicity, and the law courts?


Precisely the opposite is true!

In this country, government officials and would be government officials generally cannot win suits against those who are proven to have slandered or libeled them. To win such suits they also must prove criminal intent to slander or libel -- something very difficult to prove even by a non-government official. It's extremely rare over the last 215 years since our Constitution was adopted (1789) for government officials to even bother to file let alone succeed in winning such suits.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2004 07:46 pm
The Top Ten Questions for the Post-9/11 World
By Thomas Donnelly

Posted: Friday, July 23, 2004

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NATIONAL SECURITY OUTLOOK

AEI Online (Washington)

Publication Date: August 1, 2004

As the great bureaucratic gears that will stamp out the 2005 Quadrennial Defense Review--without question, the most important appraisal of U.S. military requirements in a generation--begin to turn, the Pentagon's decisions in the months ahead will shape the post-9/11 world. As a barometer of things to come, here follow the ten most important questions today confronting U.S. military strategists and force planners.

What Is the "Post-9/11" Environment?

Properly understood, the current state of international politics is a continuation of the previous, "post-Cold War" environment; the fundamental correlation of power in the world remains the same. The new century is still a moment of unprecedented great-power peace. The former great powers of Europe, in addition to being far less great, are peaceful almost to the point of pacifism, as is Japan. One rising great power, India, is already a thriving democracy, and its pressing security problems of terrorism and the nuclear balance with Pakistan are not immediately the stuff of world wars. China's rise is potentially the most destabilizing change in the future, and its immediate threat to Taiwan carries within it the danger of disrupting the current international order. Yet by any historical standard, the danger of open wars among wealthy nations is at an all-time low.

Moreover, this very stable global order is amazingly liberal. If the world is enjoying a moment of remarkable peace, it is also experiencing an even more amazing moment of human liberty. Many of the "captive nations" of the Cold War are free. Genuinely liberal democracies, with protections for minorities, the rule of law, property rights, and transparent governance, are flourishing in regions once assumed to be inhospitable to such "Western" values. And, though under daily attack, the flag of freedom is rising in Iraq and Afghanistan.

With headlines and newscasts dominated by violence, it is easy to lose sight of these larger facts. And it is even more difficult to remind ourselves what links these two historically unprecedented moments of peace and freedom. They are the product of an equally unique fact: the global preeminence of a single state, a sole superpower, the United States of America. The "post-9/11 security environment" is still, unmistakably, the era of Pax Americana.

Is This Really What We Want?

If the current era is defined by American hegemony, is this a preferable arrangement? If, in some sense, the collapse of the Soviet Union placed the United States in a quasi-imperial role, that was hardly the explicit purpose of waging the Cold War. Indeed, for several decades, American strategists imagined a peaceful, ordered coexistence with the Soviets as the most optimistic denouement for that struggle. Does America have the will and the wherewithal to maintain its preeminence?

It is almost impossible to explain the international behavior of the United States over the past fifteen years without coming to the conclusion that Americans have grown comfortable in their super power. It was, after all, the policies of the Clinton administration that provoked the French to complain about "hyperpower." Despite much national lip-biting and soul-searching and a number of false starts, the 1990s were a time of expanding commitments, particularly in the Balkans, as well as traditional commitments kept in the Middle East and East Asia. An expanding security perimeter is a consistent element in American strategic culture, a combination of principles and interests that has defined the historical exercise of power by the United States.

Internationalism not only describes U.S. behavior, but also reflects the moral framework through which Americans view the world. Yes, it suited U.S. interests to prevent a pipsqueak dictator like Slobodan Milosevic from shredding the hard-won peace of Europe, but America's moral abhorrence of Serbia's ethnic clean-sing was ultimately just as important in provoking Washington to action. And likewise, just as it is our strategic interest to support democracy in the greater Middle East, the moral argument for liberty is equally compelling.

How Can We Preserve the Pax Americana?

If the United States wishes to preserve its preeminence on the international stage, it must learn the logic of global power in the twenty-first century. The United States needs to maintain both its leadership within the international state structure, as well as the legitimacy--moral and practical--of the structure itself. In short, there is a "systemic" or "institutional" dimension to the job of being the sole superpower.

Preserving U.S. leadership among states is the timeless task of traditional geopolitics. Statesmen have long grasped that the developed states of Europe and East Asia are the key to great-power politics and that the energy resources of the Middle East are crucial to industrial economies. Maintaining a favorable disposition of power in these three regions is essential to preserving the global security order.

Yet today the state system of international politics is under increasing pressure. This is most apparent and most immediately threatening in the greater Middle East, where the old order--imposed by the great powers after World War I--is breaking down. Terrorist groups have exploited this opening in a variety of ways, but the greatest source of their strength is the illegitimacy of local autocratic regimes.

The United States has an interest in maintaining the health and legitimacy of this system, the framework for American power and principles. One task is to prevent terrorists from gaining control of or further destabilizing the weak and failing states of the greater Middle East. The second is to foster a new, more durable order in the region by bolstering democratic governance, individual political rights, and the protection of minorities.

What Are the Leading Challenges to the Pax Americana?

Although the collapse of the Soviet Union and the strength of the United States have created a global great power peace, life under the Pax Americana is hardly without danger. Indeed, some of the most worrisome trends in international politics flow largely from the success of past American policies.

Europe is free and at peace, a blessing of historic proportions. Yet even as it slowly aggregates its economic and diplomatic strength through the European Union, the politics of its great powers remain focused inward. Of the 2.5 million personnel under arms in Europe, only approximately 3 percent can be deployed, even for a short period. And France and Germany, under the intense fiscal pressure caused by poor economic growth, aging populations, and huge welfare burdens, are actually cutting their defense spending. At the same time, they have yet to enact any serious reforms in their force structure or defense industry.

If traditional U.S. great-power allies are growing weaker, the People's Republic of China increasingly acts like a great power determined to make its mark on international politics. Beijing has studied the recent operations of the U.S. military intensely, noting what it regards as American strengths and weaknesses. At the same time, China is using its expanding economy to slowly transform its own armed services into a power-projection force. Where this process will lead or end is unknowable, but two facts are clear. First, in local scenarios and most crucially across the Taiwan Strait, Chinese capabilities already make it difficult for the United States to keep control of any crisis. And second, in the longer term, China is discovering that its regional ambitions are, in a globalized world, inseparable from the larger international security situation.

If a rising China poses a longer-term challenge, the collapse of the old order in the greater Middle East is the most immediate danger. This collapse has been underway for some time, since the multiple crises of 1979.[1] The rise of political Islam, in the form of al Qaeda and its ideological affiliates, has accelerated this decline and carried it from the Arab heartlands to the periphery of the Islamic world. This has become the central challenge to global security, one that the United States can no longer ignore. Attacking terrorist groups directly is a necessary but insufficient response to the larger problem--a treatment of the symptoms, not the disease.

A fourth concern is that posed by nuclear or near-nuclear rogue states, such as Pakistan, North Korea, and Iran. The possession of nuclear weapons severely limits options for dealing militarily with these states, leaving some combination of diplomatic engagement and containment as the only attractive option--at least in the short term.

A final danger, and one given too little thought by U.S. strategists, is the possibility that various anti-American actors might forge an alliance of convenience. These might be more traditional, state-to-state agreements--China's flirtations with Iran occasionally take on this quality. But these coalitions of the unwilling might easily include "non-state" actors such as al Qaeda; indeed, Osama bin Laden's offer of truce to European nations after the March 11 bombings in Madrid reveals how state-like al Qaeda's agenda is. Such agreements would be true axes of evil, even if their strategic cooperation were limited.

What Defines Victory?

The task for the United States is nothing less than the preservation and expansion of today's Pax Americana, the extension of the "unipolar moment" for as long as possible. "Victory" means the integration of China within the liberal political order--and there is reason to aspire to this goal, even though it all but implies some sort of regime change in Beijing. As important and more immediate is the need to foster the process of political liberalization in the Islamic world, on the periphery as well as in the Arab heartland. Finally, we must preserve the political legitimacy of state structure as discussed above, by bolstering weak and failing states (including in Europe) and constraining the power of non-state actors.

What Are U.S. Strategic Priorities?

The first priority of our strategy making is ideological: elaborating what President Bush describes as a "forward strategy of freedom" is essential to ground the exercise of American power in the American political tradition. This matters internally, to maintain political will to endure the "long, hard slog" in the greater Middle East and to simultaneously engage China diplomatically, economically, and culturally while containing its growing military power. But it matters externally as well. American political principles are the most powerful aspect of what lately has come to be called "soft power," the power to attract others around the world: both to retain allies and win over potential enemies. The retreat to realpolitik, a theme sounded by candidate John Kerry, would be to forgo our most effective strategic tool.

A second priority of American strategy should aim at preventing a true "axis of evil" or tyranny, that is, the kind of direct or indirect strategic cooperation among enemies and potential enemies outlined above. One of the factors that has thus far preserved the Pax Americana has been our ability to deal with our enemies individually--to divide and conquer, so to speak. While this is important to our purposes in the Middle East, it is essential in regard to China.

While the modernizing People's Liberation Army poses a clear and growing threat to Taiwan and to the outdated American strategy of bilateral alliances in East Asia, China, like other industrialized nations, is increasingly dependent on imported energy from the Middle East, Africa, and elsewhere. In the material sense, this is of far greater strategic importance to China's great-power aspirations than asserting its claims to Taiwan.

A final priority for American strategists is to roll back anti-Americanism from traditional allies. The crush of events after 9/11 may have made a larger effort at public diplomacy impossible--and a large element of European public opinion is beyond the reach of either material or moral appeal--but it is clear that the "solidarity of the West" must be bolstered.

What Are the Military Implications of American Strategy?

One of the most tenacious pieces of conventional thinking by strategists in the post-Cold War era is "force sizing is not strategy." Yet the difficulties the U.S. military has encountered in trying to occupy, pacify, and reconstruct Iraq suggest a far closer connection between the two. The most obvious strategic implication of the American experience since September 11 is that the reductions in forces over the past fifteen years were excessive.

The need to fight on multiple fronts has been a basic tenet of American military strategy since the United States became a world power at the beginning of the twentieth century, and this remains a core premise today. Fortunately, recent experience has clarified the nature of potential conflict in the greater Middle East and in East Asia. The upcoming 2005 Quadrennial Defense Review can now be crafted to solve a more specific geopolitical puzzle, rather than having to base its assessments on generic "capabilities."

It is also reasonably clear that U.S. strategies in the Middle East and East Asia are distinct, and thus require distinct forces. The military containment of China is fundamentally a job for firepower, naval, and air forces. The transformation of the political order in the Middle East is principally a task of manpower, specifically land forces. While this is a radical simplification--of course, the superior accuracy, firepower, and mobility of U.S. forces are themselves transforming traditional calculations of military balances, and essential elements of American military power, like space forces, are applicable globally--it does lend a necessary clarity to force planning.

The most immediate question about the U.S. ability to sustain its position of global preeminence turns on the obvious gap between the strategic ends and material means. In the roughest terms, U.S. forces possess overwhelming strength at delivering firepower but insufficient ground troops, particularly infantry troops. The needs of firepower can largely be addressed by maintaining and managing current research and procurement accounts, while the need for manpower cannot be addressed without significantly increasing the defense budget.

Is This a Politically Sustainable and Fiscally Affordable Strategy?

The price of a Pax Americana remains an open-ended question, and it is the central proposition dominating this fall's presidential election. In a fiscal sense, the burdens of global leadership in the post-Cold War, post-9/11 era are a fraction of the burdens of the Cold War or the other wars of the twentieth century. Defense spending--even allowing for all the supplemental appropriations for operations in Afghanistan and Iraq--remains at about two-thirds the Cold War average, measured as a percentage of the U.S. economy. Even with no militarily significant contributions from allies other than Great Britain, the United States commands all the necessary resources to preserve the current liberal international order for the foreseeable future. And during the Cold War, Americans found a way to operate globally while both avoiding the perils of "imperial overstretch" or the loss of liberties at home.

The far greater question is that of political willpower. President Bush has described a vigorous, ambitious set of geopolitical goals: "transforming" the brutal and repressive political order in the greater Middle East, liberalizing autocratic governments while stemming the surge of radical Islamism. It is too early to tell if this commitment will be sustained by an opposition party and thus whether the Bush Doctrine is really consistent with American strategic culture; how much of John Kerry's political strength is derived upon personal animus toward the president and how much a matter of genuine policy disagreements is impossible to gauge. Thus far, at least, the race pits a liberal visionary--George Bush--against a realist, even reactionary, John Kerry.

What is remarkable, however, is how little serious opposition the Pax Americana generates abroad. For all the hyperventilating about U.S. hyperpower and the "adventure" in Iraq, and for all the theorizing about balancing by means of "soft power," no single power or coalition has done anything material to offset American strength. The French and the Germans, who complain most about Iraq, are, as noted above, investing ever less in military power. China's military modernization is proceeding according to some inscrutable, internal clock, more or less at the same pace as it was prior to September 11. And, although Iran is clearly determined to acquire nuclear forces, most other regimes in the Middle East act more like deer caught in the American headlights, giving lip service to the new U.S. demands for reform while hoping they go away.

What Alliances and International Organizations Can Help Defray the Costs and Burdens of This Strategy?

Another bitter lesson of the past fifteen years, and especially the period since September 11, is how the alliances and international organizations that served American purposes so well during the Cold War are so poorly suited to the needs of the twenty-first century. The United Nations and NATO, at least as they are now structured, are at worst constraints on the expansion of a liberal world security system and at best marginally relevant, although NATO remains a useful framework through which European military establishments can be modernized and synchronized.

At the same time, ad hoc "coalitions of the willing" are flimsy structures upon which to make long-term commitments. The skeletal alliance for Iraq is falling apart, either because of policy differences, as in the case of Spain, or, as in the case of Poland, simply because limited military capabilities have been exhausted. And, as noted above, the bilateral security partnerships that have long characterized U.S. policy in East Asia are unsuited to the military containment of China; such an approach makes it easier for Beijing to contemplate a divide-and-conquer strategy.

The United States must make time to make new alliances. Even the traditional "special partnerships," not only with Great Britain but with Australia, need to be refurbished and renewed to meet new challenges. Britain's 2002 defense review, "A New Chapter," provides a model--it is explicit in recognizing the United States as its closest ally and emphasizes the need to field forces capable of operating to U.S. standards--that a new administration would do well to promote. But equally important is whether we will undertake the spadework necessary to build new strategic partnerships, such as with India. While it is clear that old allies have not yet been persuaded to participate in the task of securing a new political order in the Middle East, the tasks of defending the Pax Americana can and should be shared with those who most stand to benefit from it.

What Are the Alternative Strategies?

American strategists, even as they try to preserve the Pax Americana, would do well to contemplate alternative systems of international security; maintaining the U.S. position as global hegemon, however benignly, could ultimately prove beyond our capacity or our will. If that proves the case, then American policy must be trimmed either by limiting our strategic ends, hoping that means other than military power can achieve the same strategic ends, or crafting alternative strategies.

One scenario already unfolding would push the United States to choose between addressing the problems of the Islamic world and the military containment of China. It may be that multiple, open-ended, and expansive missions in the greater Middle East gradually diffuse U.S. military power, unbalancing the mix of forces to the point where a response to Chinese provocations would be increasingly difficult. As Vietnam diverted and warped American military power into the 1970s, so might long-term commitments to Afghanistan, Iraq, or other trouble spots distort the global posture of U.S. forces in the future. Conversely, concentrating too much on China or other firepower-intensive scenarios--the preferred choice of many military and civilian leaders in the Defense Department, who still resist the sort of constabulary, counterinsurgency missions that have become the steady diet of U.S. forces over the past decade--has already left today's force structure unbalanced. In either case, sharing power with Beijing or adopting a more "realist" approach to the greater Middle East would place the liberal and democratic political foundations of the Pax Americana at risk.

Any alternative strategies would still have to deal with the fact that the collapse of the traditional order in the Middle East is a pressing problem. U.S. strategists might consider some form of limited strategic partnership with China for the purposes of addressing the problems of the region; Beijing has as great an interest in keeping the oil flowing as the rest of the industrial world. While China's alleged contributions to the global war on terrorism are more rhetoric than reality, and its repressive approach to its own Muslim population may limit the scope of a genuine partnership, there is perhaps a logic there. More promising might be a different, "peripheral" approach to reform in the Islamic world, working to support liberalism in Southeast Asia and Northwest Africa, where radical Islam is a weaker force and the local culture more tolerant. By invading Iraq and Afghanistan, the United States has attacked the problem with typical American directness, eliminating al Qaeda's haven and training base and then going to the Arab heartland of Islamic discontent. An indirect approach would be less costly, if perhaps a longer and less certain strategy.

In contemplating such alternatives, however, it is important not to confuse tactics with strategy. How the presidential candidates and the next administration answer these ten fundamental questions will determine the shape, the extent, and the durability of the Pax Americana that has been the framework for general peace and prosperity since the fall of the Berlin Wall.


Note

1. For a fuller discussion, see Thomas Donnelly, Operation Iraqi Freedom: A Strategic Assessment (Washington, D.C.: AEI Press, 2004), 1-2.
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the reincarnation of suzy
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2004 08:45 pm
ican711nm wrote:
McTag wrote:
Michael Moore knew that if he put any material in the film which could not be substantiated, and facts which did not stack up, government lawyers would be all over him like a rash.

To date, no lawsuit. What could the reason for that be, I wonder? Why do the neocons want to avoid publicity, and the law courts?


Precisely the opposite is true!

In this country, government officials and would be government officials generally cannot win suits against those who are proven to have slandered or libeled them. To win such suits they also must prove criminal intent to slander or libel -- something very difficult to prove even by a non-government official. It's extremely rare over the last 215 years since our Constitution was adopted (1789) for government officials to even bother to file let alone succeed in winning such suits.


Whatever, whoever; replace "government lawyers" with campaign spokesman or conservatives in general: if there was anything they could bicker about, they'd be doing it, rather than the general whining about the whole film.
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2004 09:13 pm
Weakness Invites Terror, Cheney Tells Democrats

Tue Jul 27, 5:08 PM ET Add Politics to My Yahoo!


By Adam Entous

CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (Reuters) - Flanked by howitzers and American flags, Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) on Tuesday said weakness only emboldened terrorists as he tried to counter Democratic criticism of the policy of preemptive war.



With President Bush (news - web sites) staying out of the political fray at his Crawford, Texas, ranch, Cheney was on the West Coast to rally fellow Republicans for the November election and stage a counter-offensive to Democrats at their national convention in Boston.


"Terrorist attacks are not caused by the use of strength. They are invited by the perception of weakness," Cheney said at Camp Pendleton on the Southern California coast.


Cheney said Americans were safer and he stood by prewar characterizations of Iraq (news - web sites) as a "gathering threat" despite the failure to find weapons of mass destruction and new warnings by Cheney and other administration officials that another major terrorist attack may be coming.


The speech was Cheney's first response to heated charges leveled by Democrats on the first day of their four-day convention for presidential hopeful John Kerry (news - web sites).


Former President Jimmy Carter and former Vice President Al Gore (news - web sites) accused Bush and Cheney of destroying U.S. credibility around the world.


Carter said the United States "cannot lead if our leaders mislead," and warned that Bush has "alienated its allies, dismayed its friends, and inadvertently gratified its enemies by proclaiming a confused and disturbing strategy of 'preemptive' war."


Former President Bill Clinton (news - web sites) said Bush had squandered the good will of the world after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.


On Tuesday, Kerry campaign spokesman Phil Singer said, "The Bush-Cheney approach to national security has left us less safe despite the president's efforts to mislead America into thinking otherwise."


Cheney said the United States had the right to attack foes before it was attacked and described the invasion of Iraq in terms of the wider U.S.-led war on terror. Democrats say the 2003 Iraq war was a costly diversion from the war on terror.


"Having seen the devastation caused by 19 men armed with knives, box cutters and boarding passes, we awakened to a possibility even more lethal," Cheney said.


"President Bush is determined to remove threats before they arrive instead of simply awaiting for another attack on our country. So America acted to end the regime of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)," Cheney said.


As part of his campaign pitch for Bush, Cheney quoted selectively from the final report of the Sept. 11 commission about the "lethal" threat posed by al Qaeda.


The commission criticized the Bush administration -- along with the Clinton administration -- for failing to grasp or effectively combat the threat posed by al Qaeda and recommended a radical shake-up of U.S. intelligence.


Cheney was a critic of the commission's work behind-the-scenes, but he praised its final report as "very well done as government documents go."

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Since Bush and Cheney never shares "government documents" it's a strange thing for Cheney to claim. It made me laugh!
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jul, 2004 12:31 am
Ican, that piece had "George Bush" and "liberal visionary" in the same sentence.

I cut myself shaving.
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jul, 2004 04:17 pm
Saddam linked Iraqi oil production to the Euro, moving it out of dollars. A short time later, he got invaded. Coincidence? Join the dots….

The real reasons Bush went to war

WMD was the rationale for invading Iraq. But what was really driving the US were fears over oil and the future of the dollar

John Chapman
Wednesday July 28, 2004
The Guardian

There were only two credible reasons for invading Iraq: control over oil and preservation of the dollar as the world's reserve currency. Yet the government has kept silent on these factors, instead treating us to the intriguing distractions of the Hutton and Butler reports.
Butler's overall finding of a "group think" failure was pure charity. Absurdities like the 45-minute claim were adopted by high-level officials and ministers because those concerned recognised the substantial reason for war - oil. WMD provided only the bureaucratic argument: the real reason was that Iraq was swimming in oil.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1270414,00.html
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