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THE US, THE UN AND THE IRAQIS THEMSELVES, V. 7.0

 
 
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 09:21 am
An aside--

A student in my Global Issues class just recouperated from gunshot wounds he recieved in Iraq. He gave us first hand accounts of his tour. He was invited to eat supper several times by Iraqi families, who invited him as a thank you for what the US has done for them.

He reports that he was really shocked by the overwhelming negativity we see on the news. Guys ARE dying. Nothing can take away from that. Some people have suffered horrible losses--and I won't try to minimize that.

But, some great things are happening, and hopes for a strong, free, democratic Iraq are high.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 09:27 am
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He reports that he was really shocked by the overwhelming negativity we see on the news.


When the toxic waste known as John Kerry was in Iraq recently he asked the troops about their concerns. He was told straight out that they couldn't understand why much of the great and good things they were accomplishing there weren't being reported.

Think their "concerns" will get any mention from him when he's back in Washington? Don't hold your breath.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 10:44 am
McTag wrote:
So, Ican wants to torture people now, sorry, can justify the use of torture......
Shocked

So McTag wants the insurgents to kill more Iraqi civilians now, sorry can justify the the use of murder ...... Shocked

I actually recommended: only that torture that does not make non-uniformed and civilian murdering combatants more sick, more disabled, more wounded, more crippled, or kill such combatants, is appropriate.

only that torture ..... Question What torture is that?
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 10:56 am
JustWonders wrote:
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It feels like just about everyone who can is going to leave the country before the elections. They say the borders between Syria and Jordan might be closed a week before elections so people are rushing to get packed and get out. Many families are simply waiting for their school-age children to finish mid-year finals or college exams so they can leave.




Soon the criminals that were in charge of Riverbend's country will be on trial for war crimes. Some of the findings and facts that will emerge from these trials aren't even printable here. In fact, on most days I wish I'd never read them. But, I wonder how she will defend the animals that perpetrated such heinous acts against her own people?

It seems to me she wishes to go back in time and back to that horror. Luckily, most of her countrymen do not.


Unsubstantiated personal opinion does not negate the observances of person with eye witness knowledge.
Please substantiate the quoted poll to avoid damaging personal credibility: "And yet the recent polls show that 80% or more are planning to vote and are looking forward to it?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 11:22 am
Quote:

Sunday, 16 January, 2005, 17:08 GMT
Iraqi anger at abuser's jail term

Iraqis have reacted angrily to a 10-year sentence imposed on a US soldier for abusing inmates at Abu Ghraib jail near Baghdad.
Many said Spc Charles Graner deserved a harsher punishment for his part in the prison abuse scandal.


Graner was jailed on Saturday and received a dishonourable discharge from the US army.

He said he was only following orders to "soften" detainees for questioning, but prosecutors said Graner was a sadist.

The BBC's Jim Muir in Baghdad says with elections only two weeks away, violence wracking many areas and daily life for many people a harsh struggle for survival, most Iraqis have not exactly been following the Abu Ghraib prosecutions with baited breath.

But he says, now that the verdict on Graner is out, most of those who are aware of the case believe the sentence should have been tougher.
One Iraqi who saw pictures of the abuse on the internet said Graner should be sent back to Abu Ghraib to serve his sentence among the prisoners still there, our correspondent says.

Another said that many others of higher rank must have been involved in such systematic abuse and should be prosecuted too, our correspondent adds.

Trader Ali Ahmed, 23, said Graner's sentence was "too little, too late. This isn't justice.

"Even capital punishment isn't enough. But since it's forbidden to torture him the way he tortured the prisoners, I would have settled for the death penalty," he was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying.

'I did what I did'

But Iraq's Human Rights Minister Bakhtiar Amin told the BBC News website he was "satisfied" that justice was being done in putting abuse suspects on trial.

"Those criminals are getting their right punishment, and I believe the American justice system is strong. They brought to justice Presidents Nixon and Clinton - we have never had this in the Arab world," he said.

A former military policeman, Graner was pictured abusing inmates in a series of photographs which sparked outrage around the world.

The prosecution depicted him as the ringleader of the abusers.
Before his sentencing, 36-year-old Graner asked for leniency.

He said he was only following orders and that he had complained about the treatment of detainees at the prison.

Graner told the jury at the Fort Hood army base: "I did what I did. A lot of it was wrong, a lot of it was criminal. I did not enjoy it."

But he said when he complained to superiors he was ordered to do what he was told and to obey military intelligence personnel, who gave orders at the prison.

Asked after sentencing if he had any regret, Graner said simply: "There's a war on. Bad things happen."
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 11:27 am
http://www.alsabaah.com/modules.php?name=Surveys&op=results&pollID=12&mode=&order=&thold=

Translated by this source:

http://www.roadstoiraq.com/?p=154

Election poll from Al-sabah

January 5th, 2005 This poll was published in Al-Sabah newspaper showing that "terrorists" have failed to to dissuade Iraqis from votin, many be willing to take on the risks necessary to wrench back control of their nation. Even in a dangerous, quasi democratic election.

The poll was of 4974 Iraqis living in and around Baghdad.

The following is the translation of the poll and the results:

Will the security problems cause you to?
Not come out and vote the day of elections = 18.3%
Come out and vote the day of elections = 78.3%
No opinion = 3.4%

Do you support the Iraqi Government having its own official newspaper?
Yes = 67.7%
No = 30.9%
Do Not know = 1.4%?

Do you support military action against the terrorists?
Yes = 87.7 %
No = 11.1%
Don't Know = 1.2%
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 11:38 am
Frank Apisa wrote:
From today's New York Times:

January 16, 2005
OP-CHART
14 Days in Iraq
By ADRIANA LINS de ALBUQUERQUE and ALICIA CHENG

In the first two weeks of January, at least 202 people died as a result of the insurgency in Iraq. The killings have been indiscriminate. The dead include Iraqi officials, police officers, civilians and, of course, Iraqi, American and coalition soldiers. The attacks shown here took place across the country, but there is a clear concentration in the so-called Sunni Triangle, which stretches from Tikrit in the north to Baghdad in the east and to Falluja and Ramadi in the west.

... This map, based on Pentagon data... and news reports, shows the number killed and wounded since Jan. 1.


Has anyone made a map of Saddam regime caused casualties in Iraq for any two week period prior to 3/20/2003? We could use that to project the probable Saddam regime caused casualties for any two week period after 3/20/2003 in Iraq if we had not invaded Iraq.

Attention Bush-whacker-we-cannots!
There are now 14 million registered Iraqi voters.
Outstanding!

Corection! 12,707,500 or more Iraqis will vote.
Astonishing!
After they vote, there will be
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Corection! 12,707,500 or more Iraqi Patrick Henrys.
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Patrick Henry: "It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry peace, peace!—but there is no peace. The war is actually begun. The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms. Our brethen are already in the field. Why stay we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me: give me liberty, or give me death!"

You can count on it!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 11:41 am
JustWonders wrote:
And yet the recent polls show that 80% or more are planning to vote and are looking forward to it.


Correct.

But these poll also found "88 percent of Sunni(s) and 38 percent of Shiite(s) [of those, who planned to vote] would stay home if there are threats of violence against polling stations."
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 11:46 am
Thanks Walter . that was my question....... 80% of who.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 11:51 am
Some local coverage, from Baghdad
The Azzaman newspaper published yesterday:
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Electoral commission's chief in northern city flees

By Salem Aref

Azzaman, 2005-01-15


The head of the commission preparing for the January 30 elections in Mosul has fled following reports of embezzlement, Mosul's governor has said.


The governor, Duraid Kashmoula, said more than 252 million Iraqi dinars (one U.S. dollar is worth 1,500 dinars) have gone missing and has ordered a freeze of all checks issued by the commission.


The starting salary of a policeman in Iraq is $200.


Accusations of fraud come amid reports that U.S. and Iraqi forces have failed to restore law and order to the country's third largest city, believed to be home to nearly 2 million people.


The dismissal of Mosul's electoral chief is the third in three months.


Kashmoula, however, said the two other officials leading the city's electoral commission left after receiving threats from insurgent groups.


Kashmoula also said he was unhappy with the security situation in his city.


"Generally conditions are not promising," he said.


There has been a surge in insurgent activity since the U.S.-led onslaught on the city of Falluja in November.



The U.S. has dispatched more troops to the city and the interim government has deployed new units of National Guard.



But many residents are still reluctant to leave their homes. Only a few currently have the courage to cross the city's five bridges.


The province of Nineveh, of which Mosul is the capital, is one of five other Iraqi provinces where preparations for the general elections, only two weeks away, are still lacking.


Insurgent groups have vowed to attack polling stations, election officials and voters during and in the run-up to the January 30 elections.


Unidentified gunmen have detonated the polling station in Shirkat, a provincial district of Nineveh, which is 90 kilometers south of Mosul.
Source
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 12:05 pm
From today's issue of above quoted paper, an interesting article.

Perhaps this might lead to more trouble re the election (when you look back in history, you'll notice that the price of bread had actually influenced the results of more than one election!):


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Food shortages hit Iraqis

By Abed-latif al-Mawsawi

Azzaman, 2005-01-16


Besides security concerns, Iraqis now have to grabble with a shortage of basic foods.

The quality and quantity of state-supplied food rations has worsened recently and many Iraqis say they now receive less food than during the days of former President Saddam Hussein.

Iraqis have depended on monthly rations since the Saddam Hussein era, under a system meant to lessen the impact of the 1990-2003 U.N.-imposed sanctions that helped destroy the economy.

The Trade Ministry has acknowledged that supplies of basic items are low but blames logistics and lack of security for the shortages.

Prices of bread, the mainstay for millions of families, have skyrocketed recently to levels unseen before.

A loaf of bread in Baghdad is now sold for 100 dinars from 25 a year ago.

To allay fears of further shortages, Trade Minister Mohammed al-Joubori re-affirmed government's commitment to continue supplying Iraqi families with subsidized food rations.

"We have no problem with tea and the contracts we have signed are sufficient for five months," he said in a statement faxed to the newspaper.

He said 14,000 tons of ghee were on their way to the country from neighboring Syria and Jordan.

"I do not think there will be a shortage of legumes with 5,000 tones expected to arrive by the end of the month," he said.

Joubori attributed the shortages to logistics, saying "long convoys" of trucks packed with food items were queuing on border posts.

Insurgents attack trucks plying Iraqi highways. As a result transport prices have surged at a time many drivers are reluctant to work for the government.

The climb in prices of bread is also partly due to acute fuel and power shortages as most bakeries in the country either rely on electricity or kerosene.

Many Iraqis did not get their monthly allocations of sugar rations of 2.5 kilograms per person.

"The Ministry (of Trade) will try to make up for the shortage of sugar this month," Joubori promised.

The monthly food rations are vital for millions of Iraqis. Without them many will starve in Iraq.

Source
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 12:12 pm
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By Kate Holton

LONDON (Reuters) - U.S.-led forces, using Iraq (news - web sites)'s ancient city of Babylon as a military base, have caused "substantial damage" to one of the world's most renowned archaeological treasures, a British Museum report said.

AP Photo Photo
AP Photo
Slideshow Slideshow: U.S.-Led Soldiers Said to Damage Babylon

Reuters Video Babylon Military Base Threatens Iraq's Cultural Heritage
(Reuters Video)
Video Ancient Babylon Back Under Iraqi Control
(AP Video)


The report said U.S. and Polish military vehicles had crushed 2,600-year-old pavements in the city, a cradle of civilization and home to one of the seven wonders of the ancient world. Archaeological fragments were used to fill sand bags, it added.

"This is tantamount to establishing a military camp around the Great Pyramid in Egypt or around Stonehenge in Britain," John Curtis, keeper of the museum's Ancient and Near East department, said in the report obtained by Reuters.

Curtis, invited to visit Babylon by Iraqi antiquities experts, said he had found cracks and gaps made by people who had apparently tried to gouge out the decorated bricks forming the famous dragons of the city's Ishtar Gate.

U.S. military commanders set up a base in Babylon in April 2003, just after the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), and handed it over to a Polish-led force five months later.

Poland said it had decided to remove troops from the area when Warsaw realized having a military base there was not "beneficial to the site." The camp will be formally handed over to the Iraqi Culture Ministry on Saturday.

"We have moved our operations from camp Babylon and returned that site to the Iraqi people and to scientists because of its importance, not only to Iraq, but to the world's cultural heritage," said a spokesman for the Polish-led forces in Iraq.

"We realized the existence of a military base there was not beneficial to that site and when an opportunity of moving to a new camp arose we decided to move," Lieutenant Colonel Artur Domanski said.

Babylon was the capital of ancient Babylonia, an early civilization that existed from around 1,800 BC until 600 BC.

Most famous for the Hanging Gardens built by Nebuchadnezzar, one of the seven wonders of the ancient world, large parts of it were reconstructed by Saddam in an attempt to associate himself with his country's past glories.

In the report, Curtis described the decision to set up a base in the area as "regrettable."

"Babylon is one of the most important archaeological sites in the world and the damage caused by the military camp is a further blow for the cultural heritage of Iraq," he said.

About 3.2 million square feet of the site was covered in gravel, the report said, brought in from outside which was compacted and sometimes chemically treated to make helipads and car parks. The report said the gravel would contaminate previously undisturbed archeological deposits.

The Guardian newspaper quoted U.S. Lieutenant Colonel Steven Boylan as saying the significance of Babylon was not lost on the foreign troops.

"An archaeologist examined every construction initiative for its impact on historical ruins."

Curtis said the Iraqi government should be urged to put Babylon forward for inclusion in the United Nations (news - web sites) Education, Scientific and Cultural Organization's (UNESCO (news - web sites)'s) list of World Heritage Sites as soon as possible.

"Now, more than ever, Babylon needs the care, attention and advice that being a World Heritage Site would ensure it received," he said.



Domanski said Poland was aware of the charges that its forces had damaged the site and planned to reply to them no later than Sunday.
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revel
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 12:33 pm
Lash said:
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Revel--

Gonzales was not backtracking on his statement. His comments have been taken out of context. If you read that article you brought yesterday, you will see in black and white that Gonzales described as "quaint" issuing POWs athletic wear, making sure they got their military pay forwarded to them and had commissary privileges. Those ARE quaint. He NEVER said the GC was quaint. That's the machinations of the Democrats--and either the stupidity or self-promotion of a few Republicans.

If Lindsay Graham had read what Gonzales said, he'd know Gonzales made more than a couple of references to the US' continued standards of treatment under the GC, even though we relieved ourselves of some of the legal burdens. What an ass. I bet you he won't be re-elected.

Gonzales just didn't say the GC was quaint. You can read it for yourself. If you really want to know the truth. I guess it's possible you don't.


So you are saying that the reason that Gonzales was not in favor of granting detainees prisoner of war status even though we were at war was because he was afraid that the detainees would sue if they didn't get to wear athletic uniforms and had a pay check since that was the only part of the Geneva Convention that he deemd quaint? Or was there other parts of the Geneva Convention that he thought would cause frivolous laws suits?


(I can't really make out that whole text of Gonzales memo from the article I posted no matter how many times I read it, so I will just take your word that it says what you said it says.)

As for as Lindsay Graham you believe that the only reason that he thinks that Gonzales was trying to do an in-road around torture laws was because of a desire of self promotion? You believe that despite all the power that Bush has Graham thinks he can promote himself by disagreeing with Gonzales views about the treatment of detainees? Is it not slightly possible that people can disagree with the bush administration and it decisions or policies for reasons that have nothing to do with what they can get out of it?

It is really easy to say that you are going to abide by this and that law knowing that if it comes if it comes into conflict with whatever tactics you believe will get the best results you can then simply drop them and since there are not any rules that you are legally bound by you can't be guilty of breaking any.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 01:33 pm
If you read the memo, you'll see exactly what concerns Gonzales had.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 06:22 pm
This pretty much sums up why the Geneva Conventions do not apply to the Jihadists.

Conventions wisdom is useless vs. jihadists

January 16, 2005

A third of a decade after 9/11, it's hard trying to maintain a war footing against a nebulous enemy. At the Senate confirmation hearings for the new attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, Democrats seem to have decided that the very concept of an "enemy" is dubious, cheerfully cranking up their sanctimonious preening for CNN and berating Judge Gonzales for declining to extend the Geneva Conventions to captured te

To be covered by Geneva, a combatant has to have (a) a commander who is responsible for his subordinates; (b) formal recognizable military insignia; (c) weapons that are carried openly, and (d) an adherence to the laws and customs of warfare.

Islamist terrorists meet none of these conditions, and extending the protection of the conventions to them would simply announce to the world that, from a legal point of view, there's no downside to embracing terror. Blow up a nightclub or a schoolhouse or a pizza parlor and you'll still get full POW status.

Ah-ha, say the Dems. But, if we don't treat our prisoners with respect, America's brave men and women in uniform will pay the price when they fall into enemy hands.

Hello? Does anyone in the Democratic Party still read the newspapers, other than the fawning editorials of the New York Times?

If an American falls into the hands of the enemy, he's going to be all over the Internet having his head hacked off for a recruitment video or dragged through the streets and strung up on a bridge in Fallujah.

The military historian Sir Max Hastings made the point last week that, in an age of overwhelming U.S. military supremacy, for her enemies asymmetric warfare -- i.e., terrorism -- is the only logical way to go. But the urge by the Democrats and the media to raise them to the level of lawful combatants only makes things even more asymmetric:

In late summer, three hostages were seized in Iraq -- the two Americans were murdered immediately, but the third, a Briton, was kept alive while his jailers very adroitly played off U.K. Muslim lobby groups and public opinion against her majesty's government. As I wrote back then, "the feelers put out by the foreign office to Ken Bigley's captors . . . confer respectability on the head-hackers and increase the likelihood that Britons and other foreigners will be seized and decapitated in the future. The United Kingdom, like the government of the Philippines when it allegedly paid a ransom for the release of its Iraqi hostages, is thus assisting in the mainstreaming of jihad."

I was proved right a few days later when poor Margaret Hassan, an aid worker who'd lived in Baghdad for decades and was married to an Iraqi, was seized -- in the hopes of extracting further gestures of deference from British officials -- and then, like Bigley, murdered.

It's depressing that after three years the Democrats seem incapable of any kind of characterization of the enemy that approximates to reality. But it's not surprising. In the landscape of modern progressive pieties, there are no enemies, just friends whose grievances we haven't yet accommodated

But out there in the field a good glimpse of how things really work was provided by Moayad Ahmed Yasseen, who was captured in Fallujah a couple of months ago and turned out to be full of interesting information. He was a colonel in Saddam's Iraqi Army, and after the fall of the Baathists last spring was sent to Tehran, where he says he was received by Iran's head honcho, Ayatollah Khamenei, and various Iranian intelligence officials.

He returned with cash, weapons and car bombs for his new outfit -- something called Jaish Muhammad, which means Muhammad's Army. It's closely allied with Abu al-Zarqawi, insurgent numero uno in the new Iraq. A few weeks later, Saddam ordered Yasseen west, for a meeting with Syrian intelligence to procure more money and weapons from Boy Assad.

So who's the enemy there? Take your pick. Saddamite remnants, Iranian theocrats, Syrian Baathists, ad hoc insurgents, a Jordanian terrorist commander; states, non-state actors, Islamic fundamentalists, secular dictatorships, wily opportunists -- you name it, Col. Yasseen's plugged into it. And, even though Osama has anointed Zarqawi as his viceroy in occupied Iraq (somewhat post facto), it seems unlikely he or anybody close to him in the luxury caves with en suite latrine has anything to do with what's going on in the Sunni Triangle, or Saudi Arabia, or Indonesia, or anywhere else.

We were encouraged after Afghanistan to see al-Qaida as less of a hierarchical structure and more of a loose franchise operation. But it seems doubtful that these days it's anything at all -- except perhaps a meaningless media shorthand for a network of diffused autonomous Islamist groups operating from Central America to the Balkans to Southeast Asia, not to mention gazillions of British, Canadian and European Muslims who graduated from the Afghan terror camps and either returned home to await instructions or sallied forth to join the jihad in Chechnya, Gaza and Bali, plus various disaffected individuals who just got the Islamist fever, like the July 4th shooter at Los Angeles Airport and, indeed, the Washington sniper duo, the younger of whom liked to draw pictures of planes crashing into skyscrapers, etc.

How do you deal with an enemy that encompasses everything from the U.N.'s favorite dictatorships to free-lance nutters? You need methods that are as diverse as they are. You need to be smart and at times improvisational.

You don't do what the senators puffing all over the TV want to do: Box in the United States and give free Geneva upgrades to terrorists.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn/cst-edt-steyn16.html
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 06:50 pm
Sgt. Charles Graner, pictured below left during happier days in Iraq, and below right as he prepares to be frog-marched to the Navy brig where he will spend the next ten years....

http://glennz.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/graner.jpg

has been promoted from Patsy to Fall Guy.

I don't think a medal from Our Leader comes with that, though.

His love child with Lynndie England will be a fifth-grader by the time he again gets to experience the freedom he fought and tortured for.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 07:19 pm
For dog's PDiddie, what makes you think you know better than the jury that actually heard the evidence? Does it strike you at all odd, that the two most prominently seen posing for pictures were also lovers who spawned a child during the chaosÂ… and were known to fool around at the prison? Do you suppose the "they" ordered that too? Shocked Or, do you think it might be possible, just possible, that Graner and England are responsible for their own actions? Idea
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 08:36 pm
This post is from an Iraqi blogger....I can ce neither confirm or deny it's accuracy ..Raed has been a reliable source in the pasat.

Quote:
Wednesday, December 29, 2004
Chemical Weapons in Fallujah

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/147/892/400/Image7.2.jpg
Sorry about the picture, I know it is too graphic.

But...

This is one of many pictures that show how some people in Fallujah were killed by chemical weapons. You can see how these two men were sleeping on the floor, covered by blankets, and dead.

These two men died while they were sleeping, there is no blood any where that can indicate they were shot.

Rana, my friend, came to Amman with the parents for peace delegation, and she brought the pictures with her from Fallujah.

I am going to Iran tomorrow, I will try to blog from there!
Posted by: Raed Jarrar / 10:25 PM (572) comments
Tues
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 08:40 pm
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Bereaved Parents Lead Holiday Humanitarian Mission to Iraq
Jim Lobe
OneWorld US
Mon., Dec. 27, 2004

WASHINGTON, D.C., Dec 27 (OneWorld) - Parents of three U.S. soldiers killed in the war in Iraq are on their way to that country as part of a humanitarian mission aimed at showing a different face of the United States to Iraqis displaced by fierce fighting in Fallujah.

Along with representatives of several anti-war groups, including San Francisco-based Global Exchange, CodePink, Physicians for Social Responsibility (PSR), the parents will be distributing some US$600,000 worth of aid for the estimated 250,000 people who fled the city in advance of U.S. offensive last month in which some 2,000 Iraqis and at least 71 U.S. soldiers were killed.

The parents include Fernando and Rosa Suarez of Escondido, California, whose son Jesus was killed in Iraq during the early days of the invasion March 27, 2003; Amalia Avila, whose son, Lance Cpl Victor Gonzalez of Watsonville, California, died in Fallujah's al Anbar province on October 13 this year; and Nadia McCaffrey, whose son, Patrick of Petaluma, California, was killed last June 22.

"This delegation is a way for me to express my sympathy and support for the Iraqi people," said Rosa Suarez. "The Iraq war took away my son's life, and it's taken away the lives of so many innocent Iraqis. It's time to stop the killing and to help the children of Iraq," she added.

Also traveling with the group is Adele Welty, whose son, New York City firefighter Tim Welty, died in the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.

"I am trying to leave a legacy in my son's name," she said to Long Island's 'Newsday' this weekend. Welty is one of the founders of the anti-war Sept. 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, she was arrested and jailed briefly last March during a protest rally in Washington, D.C.

"It wasn't a hard decision to make," she said about traveling to Iraq. "I am appalled at the growing list of casualties of both American soldiers and Iraqi civilians."

The main sponsors of the delegation, which also include Women for Peace, United for Peace and Justice, Voices in the Wilderness, and Project Guerrero Azteca for Peace, luanched an internet appeal for funds at the beginning of December after U.S. Marines announced that they had taken control of Fallujah, a stronghold for the Iraqi insurgency.

One organizer, Global Exchange's Medea Benjamin, said they had hoped to raise about $20,000 but quickly received some $100,000 in contributions through the internet. Another $500,000 in medical and humanitarian supplies was donated by the Middle East Children's Alliance and Operation USA.

They expect to arrive in Amman, Jordan, Monday, where they will meet with humanitarian and healthcare workers to hand over the supplies. They plan to travel to the Iraq-Jordan border for a peaceful vigil on New Year's Day and visit camps of Fallujah residents who left the city in anticipation of the U.S. offensive.

To date, around 1,000 residents have been permitted to return to the city which had a population of 250,000. According to the most recent media reports, about one third of the buildings in the city were leveled in the fighting. On Thursday, three Marines reportedly were killed in clashes there that indicated to observers that the city was still not entirely secure.

In addition, most services, including water and electricity, have been cut off as a result of the destruction, suggesting that the city will not be able to support its original population until major repairs have can be completed on basic infrastructure. The only humanitarian agency that is active there at the moment is the Red Crescent Society.

"The goal really is to locate one of the refugee camps where children and mainly women are kept," McCaffrey told KCBS in San Francisco Sunday. "I know that they have nothing, no supply, nothing right now."

McCaffrey's son Patrick, a member of the 579th Engineer Battalion based in Petaluma, was killed when his patrol squad was ambushed. She came to national attention earlier this year when she protested the Pentagon's policy banning the photographing or filming of the flag-draped coffins of soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan by inviting the press to view her son's coffin when it arrived in Sacramento via commercial aircraft.

Fernando Suarez, who visited Baghdad last December, has also gained national attention by publicly challenging the Bush administration to explain why it was necessary to go to war in Iraq shortly after his son's death. He told the 'North County Times,' a suburban San Diego newspaper that that the trip's intent "is to provide humanitarian aid to the children of Iraq that the U.S. government has not been able to provide."

"I have contact with an Iraqi doctor in Jordan, and he told me that five to ten children die every single day only from diarrhea and respiratory problems because the doctors don't have any medicines," added Suarez, who founded Project Guerrero Azteca last year. "This war is killing children and women who are not our enemies. By bringing medicine to children in Iraq, we are not helping terrorism, we are combating it."

Avila, a travel agent and mother of three, said the decision to travel to Iraq to meet with the refugees was easy despite the risks. "It's a peace mission," she told the Register-Pajaronian, a newspaper of the Pajaro Valley north of San Francisco.

"We have the same pain, we lose our sons, and they are losing their husbands and children not in the military services. We don't want them to think we are going there to kill people," she said.

Benjamin, who also co-founded CodePink and is best known for interrupting Congressional testimony by Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld earlier this year, said she felt the timing of the trip was particularly compelling.

"The holiday season is a time when many people want to express the values of compassion, love and sharing for our fellow human beings," she said. "This humanitarian aid delegation is our show of compassion for the Iraqi people."

"At the same time," she added, "we will be showing our support for U.S. troops by calling on the U.S. government to bring them home now."
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This post is from an Iraqi blogger....I can ce neither confirm or deny it's accuracy ..Raed has been a reliable source in the pasat.


There are 572 comments listed under that "blogger's" post, not many of them complimentary.

Here is but one example:

"I wonder if Raed actually believes in the use of Chem by Americans. If you've followed he and his brothers posts for some time, you really began to see a pattern with these two. Either they are putting up an incredibly believable front of ignorance, or, they actually believe the stuff they throw out there. Or perhaps they are just very adept propogandists for the Sunni Baathists"

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I take it from your posting that you believe the United States military is guilty of gassing Iraqis in Fallujah?
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