THE US, THE UN AND THE IRAQIS THEMSELVES, V. 7.0

It's likely pleasurable to whistle in the dark but sometimes it bites one in the ass. I don't believe Bush is that happy about being re-elected. Now, as Bill Maher has stated, he has to clean up his own mess. What fools these mortals be. Puck must be glaring down on the Bush adminstration as the epitome of the Shakesperean tragedy.

Ok Frank...

Where's the opposing army we fought in Vietnam?
Where's the jungle the enemy hid in?
Where's the world power supplying arms and ammo to the opposing army?
Where's the divide between the armies?
Where's the threat to democracy?
Where's the huge death toll?
Where's the crowd's of people spitting on our soldiers?
Where's the enemy supply lines?
Where's the draft?
Where's the support for the enemy from outside nations?
Which part of Iraq can US forces not operate in?
Where are the enemy POW camps?

War is hell. Every war can be compared to the next and there will always be comparisons made. But to keep using the Vietnam battle cry is nothing more than a false sentiment that tries to bolster oppostion to the war.

McGentrix wrote:

Ok Frank...

Where's the opposing army we fought in Vietnam?
Where's the jungle the enemy hid in?
Where's the world power supplying arms and ammo to the opposing army?
Where's the divide between the armies?
Where's the threat to democracy?
Where's the huge death toll?
Where's the crowd's of people spitting on our soldiers?
Where's the enemy supply lines?
Where's the draft?
Where's the support for the enemy from outside nations?
Which part of Iraq can US forces not operate in?
Where are the enemy POW camps?

War is hell. Every war can be compared to the next and there will always be comparisons made. But to keep using the Vietnam battle cry is nothing more than a false sentiment that tries to bolster oppostion to the war.

Dream on, McG. I know you kneejerk types have got to back your handlers...and I compliment you on being willing to do it so often.

In any case, I have acknowledge that many of the petty little bullshyt items that you have listed are not the same.

But I have also posted McNamara's 11 points of similarity...and they are certainly more telling than "where is the jungle!"

Go back an look 'em over.

You eventually see that I am right.

Unfortuantely, I suspect that will only happen for ideologues like you when our troops have to fight their way out of Iraq in what is damn near certain to be another humiliating defeat.

We'll see.

During the last months of Vietnam...people like you were still in their dream world.

Yet one more similarity.

Ok Frank...

Where's the opposing army we fought in Vietnam?
Where's the jungle the enemy hid in?
Where's the world power supplying arms and ammo to the opposing army?
Where's the divide between the armies?
Where's the threat to democracy?
Where's the huge death toll?
Where's the crowd's of people spitting on our soldiers?
Where's the enemy supply lines?
Where's the draft?
Where's the support for the enemy from outside nations?
Which part of Iraq can US forces not operate in?
Where are the enemy POW camps?

War is hell. Every war can be compared to the next and there will always be comparisons made. But to keep using the Vietnam battle cry is nothing more than a false sentiment that tries to bolster oppostion to the war.

McGentrix wrote:

Ok Frank...

Where's the opposing army we fought in Vietnam?
Where's the jungle the enemy hid in?
Where's the world power supplying arms and ammo to the opposing army?
Where's the divide between the armies?
Where's the threat to democracy?
Where's the huge death toll?
Where's the crowd's of people spitting on our soldiers?
Where's the enemy supply lines?
Where's the draft?
Where's the support for the enemy from outside nations?
Which part of Iraq can US forces not operate in?
Where are the enemy POW camps?

War is hell. Every war can be compared to the next and there will always be comparisons made. But to keep using the Vietnam battle cry is nothing more than a false sentiment that tries to bolster oppostion to the war.

Clear something up for me McG ..... if, as you say, thereis no comparison between Nam and Iraq, how would a comparing of the two change an anti war person to a pro war person? I'm confused, what would be the mechanism at work.....

The war in Vietnam is considered a loss for America in it's history of war. Many things went wrong and many in America did not support the war. I am sure you know why we were in Vietnam and can understand that none of those reason fit our current war.

Vietnam has become a symbol for failure on a grand scale that included thousands of US military dead and a draft to fight a war that should not have been fought according to many.

When you run around screaming "IRAQ IS ANOTHER VIETNAM!!!" then you are trying to spread the same negativity that surrounds Vietnam against our efforts in Iraq.

They are not the same war, despite the occasional similarity. The glaring differences over ride any similarity and anyone claiming Iraq is another Vietnam is doing nothing more than to use the memory of Vietnam to cast dispersions on the War in Iraq.

What's next? Spitting on the soldiers returning home?

When the free people of Iraq have a democratically elected government and are finally out from under the 35 year reign of terror Saddam and the Baatist party held them under, will you then decide that the effort was worth it?

If this disaster ends the way some of us dread that it will...when we finally admit we screwed up and evacuate our troops in another abject defeat...are you guys gonna play that same silly song "We woulda won if you people had only backed us?"