THE US, THE UN AND THE IRAQIS THEMSELVES, V. 7.0

Bush is not a moron. He is however a new kind of president. Shallow, ignorant of word affairs, of geography, of history, uncultured, uncouth, incapable of understanding complexities, incapable of forming cogent sentences on his own, distrustful, resentful of contrary opinion. It is still baffling to many onlookers why America has chosen him to the highest office again. Was he really the best on offer? I will never doubt the power of advertising again.

Says that we sure don't elect presidents based upon ability any more.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Says that we sure don't elect presidents based upon ability any more.

Nothing in McTag's laundry list indicates a lack of ability to do the job.

We seem to be walking in a dream.
The President is inept. Well, people judged him to be better that the challenger. What???

I am heartily sorry about the new loss of soldiers' lives in Mosul. They were sitting in their mess tent, and they were bombed. I find I am more sorry about that, than about the daily loss of other lives there, and I don't know why that should be. Maybe because, our TV also had contrasting pictures of the same tent messroom, decorated for Thanksgiving and shown in a peaceful setting.

right.... so then we can look forward to toppling the following for starters;
pakistan
iran
syria
chechnya
the phillipines
suadi arabia
sudan
katar
uae
north ireland
... US ...

ican, it's not unwise to enforce the existing laws regarding border control. it is unwise to continue soft handling the borders in order to allow illegals to stream across the border to supply cheap and submissive labor.

[Perhaps I'm wrong, but I thought Afganistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Phillipines, North Ireland, Sudan, and US governments are all working to remove and keep out al Qaeda.

Yes you're wrong!!!. Al Qaeda in the north of Ireland!!! ...

McTag wrote:

We seem to be walking in a dream.
The President is inept. Well, people judged him to be better that the challenger. What???

I am heartily sorry about the new loss of soldiers' lives in Mosul. They were sitting in their mess tent, and they were bombed. I find I am more sorry about that, than about the daily loss of other lives there, and I don't know why that should be. Maybe because, our TV also had contrasting pictures of the same tent messroom, decorated for Thanksgiving and shown in a peaceful setting.

Did you feel the same way when this was happening?

Do you wish it still was?

Were you waiting for the UN to step and do something about it?

These people are still waiting. And dying...

Since we have not as of yet pinpointed the whereabouts of Saddam's WMD...

Eh, Frank... You're right about the smarts... and since you are too, you should realize that that wasn't really the point...
Look again, I'm confident the point won't evade you twice. :wink:

ican wrote:

Ain't that sumpin'?

Yeah, a self-admittedly poor source of evidence.

9-11CR = www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States Report, i.e., The 9-11 Commission Report, 8/21/2004, alleged the following:
1. Osama bin Laden in 1998 declared war on both civilian and military Americans with the objective of killing all of them wherever they be found;
2. President George Bush on 9/11/2001 declared to the National Security Council the United States would not just punish the perpetrators of terrorist attacks on Americans but also those who harbored them;
3. President Bush declared to the nation on TV the night of 9/11/2001 that we would make no distinction between the terrorists who committed terrorism against Americans and those who harbor them.
4. President Bush declared to Congress and to the nation on TV the night of 9/20/2001 that our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them… Our war on terror begins with al Qaeda, but does not end there … Our war on terror will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped, and defeated.
5. The al Qaeda are a confederation of multiple terrorist groups led by Osama bin Laden.
6. Osama bin Laden aided a group of Islamic extremists encamped in northern Iraq.
7. The Al Qaeda encamped in northern Iraq, suffered major defeats by Kurdish Forces in the late 1990s.
8. In 2001, the Al Qaeda remnant in northern Iraq, with Osama bin Laden’s help, re-formed into an organization called Ansar al Islam (AaI).
9. There is zero evidence that the Kurd’s again attacked the AaI al Qaeda in northern Iraq.
10. There is zero evidence that Saddam’s regime attacked the AaI al Qaeda in northern Iraq.
11. There is zero evidence that the US attacked the AaI al Qaeda in northern Iraq before 2003.
12. There is zero evidence that Saddam Hussein requested the Kurds to attack the AaI al Qaeda in northern Iraq.
13. There is zero evidence that Saddam Hussein requested the US to attack the AaI al Qaeda in northern Iraq.

In 2001, with Bin Ladin's help they [i.e., al Qaeda] re-formed into an organization called Ansar al Islam. There are indications that by then the Iraqi regime tolerated and may even have helped Ansar al Islam against the common Kurdish enemy.54

But I ain't gonna mention it. :wink:

Yes Merry Christmas or whatever you prefer--I think everybody ought to get what they want for Christmas --to everybody. Like Frank I'm cooking for a crowd who will start arriving tomorrow so will probably not be around much for several days. But whatever anyone's personal beliefs, the season is special and I wish you all nothing but happiness.

I'll withdraw the remark.