ican,
Your point about "proof" is well taken, but in my post, no.
1058761 I had pointed out that you had provided reiterations of the 9/11 report's statements that amount to the words "indications," "tolerance" and "may even have helped" as confirmations of your "some evidence" which itself was the 9/11 report's statements that amount to the words "indications," "tolerance" and "may even have helped."
That is circular reasoning, ican.
About the harboring of Ansar al Islam in Iraq, what is clear is that they were a group of
KURDISH Islamist separatists operating in northern Iraq, Iraqi Kurdistan, an area that was, as acknowledged by Stars and Stripes, Voice of America and
THE 9/11 COMMISSION ITSELF (or are you questioning the reliability of the 9/11 commission's report-the source of your evidence--itself?), outside the control of Baghdad, i.e. Saddam. The extremist groups that the 9/11 commission refers to were
KURDS, EXTREMIST KURDS, they suffered major defeats by
OTHER KURDS, THOSE OPPOSED TO THE EXTREMISTS.
Read here, ican:
Quote:A group known as Jund al Islam (Soldiers of Islam), led by al-Shafii, seized control of several villages near Halabja in September 2001 and established a local administration governed according to Sharia law. Mullah Krekar formed Ansar al Islam in December 2001 as a merger of Jund al Islam and a splinter group of his Islamic Movement in Kurdistan. In the area then under its control, Ansar barred women from education and employment, confiscated musical instruments and banned music both in public and private, banned satellite receivers and televisions, and threatened the use of Islamic punishments of amputation, flogging, and stoning to death for offenses such as theft, the consumption of alcohol, and adultery, according Human Rights Watch.
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Council on Foreign Relations, Ansar al Islam [Iraq, Islamists/Kurdish Separatists )
You, ican, rationalize that "clearly, it was Saddam who willingly and knowingly and tolerantly harbored al Qaeda in Iraq."
What is most certainly clear is that the 9/11 commission used the words "indications" of "tolerance" and "
MAY (emphasis mine) even have helped" to describe the Iraqi regimes total enterprise with Ansar.
Remember, it also states that the Islamic extremists that would organize to become Ansar al Islam
OPERATED IN PART OF IRAQ (KURDISTAN) OUTSIDE OF BAGHDAD'S CONTROL.
The 9/11 commission's report just does not support your jump to conclusions.
Why do you think that this part of Iraq (Kurdistan) was outside of Baghdad's control, ican?
The reason I brought up the alleged meeting between bin Laden and the Iraqi intelligence officer in Sudan is to illustrate the
UNRELIABILITY of the reports and information the 9/11 commission perused in writing its report.
The truth of the matter is that, all in all, your certainty in your
BELIEF that Saddam harbored al Qaeda amounts to the 9/11 commission report's most uncertain terms "apparently" "indications" "tolerance" and "may even have helped."
Your stories are funny, by the way.
Who do you work for?
